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Jannard
10-28-2007, 08:02 PM
Shot over the weekend. 1/192 sec shutter speed, ISO 320, RED 50-150 Zoom, 72 fps.

Jim

Jannard
10-28-2007, 08:22 PM
Note the RED logo on the side window! Sorry for the gamma issue on a Mac. It will look a bit light. But it should be correct on a PC.

qtx1http://www.24puser.com//Burkhart.movqtx2

Corey Culp
10-28-2007, 08:35 PM
What a tease.

Jarred Land
10-28-2007, 08:40 PM
heh heh heh...

Alexander Nikishin
10-28-2007, 08:42 PM
Awesome, when's the 50-150 slated for release?

Jannard
10-28-2007, 08:48 PM
50-150mm RED Zoom should be pretty soon... maybe December? It is an incredible lens.

Jim

Cory Schulthies
10-28-2007, 08:57 PM
impressive, most impressive!
gotta love that slow motion.

dvpixl
10-28-2007, 09:30 PM
Jim, are these pure pleasure for you to film or are you going to make the most beautiful doc on this race car thing...?

Tom Lowe
10-28-2007, 09:43 PM
Cool.

Jason Francois
10-28-2007, 10:07 PM
I'm adding more slow-motion to my latest project. :)

Thanks Jim.

Jannard
10-28-2007, 10:16 PM
This is not very good lighting, nor particularly well shot, but it gives you an idea of what happens when 8000 horsepower is not happy. Again, 2K at 72fps (I actually cropped into the shot quite a bit to get this).

This is a dragster. The driver is in front of all the drama. When this happens in a Funny Car, it happens in the drivers lap.

Jim

QT1http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_firex2sm.movQT2

Alexander Nikishin
10-28-2007, 10:19 PM
Man that looks bitchin.

Your next step is to make an affordable funny car Jim, I've always wanted to give racing a try.

Andrew Benz
10-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Jim, really great footage. How heavy is this lens... am I still stuck having to go the B4 HD or to the s16 Canon pl mount zoom route for one man efp or docco work?

Andrew Benz #557

chuck colburn
10-28-2007, 10:30 PM
I miss the old days when the rails had the engine out front. Nothing more spectacular then watching the blower explode off the engine like a rocket taking off. lol

Jannard
10-28-2007, 10:38 PM
Jim, really great footage. How heavy is this lens... am I still stuck having to go the B4 HD or to th s16 Canon pl mount zoom route for one man efp or docco work?

Andrew Benz #557

The 50-150mm RED Zoom weighs under 3 pounds... :-)

Jim

Sam Druckerman
10-28-2007, 11:09 PM
The 50-150mm RED Zoom weighs under 3 pounds... :-)

Jim

WOW! NICE!!

Andrew Benz
10-28-2007, 11:23 PM
The 50-150mm RED Zoom weighs under 3 pounds... :-)

Jim

Jim this is great news, I am so ready for RED Day and all the RED glass I can get my hands on! Is there any chance you can get one in Gibby's hands for LART? (Dates are Nov. 17-18th)

I know that you are extremely familar w/ non- hard lined EFP shooting... When you are out shooting (one man/one camera), do you ever feel the need to have a s16 or B4 HD zoom for greater mobility? Do you think you (RED) might add something like this in the future? I just think if you guys made a pl mount EFP style powered zoom lens with the build of...

http://www.abelcine.com/store/files/products/t_10870.jpg

a canon Canon Super 16 Cine Zoom Lens 10.6 to 180mm

or...

http://www.bostoncamera.com/new%20images/newcanzoom.jpg

the Canon Super 16 Cine Zoom Lens 6.6 to 66mm you would further RED's cause to be THE singular acquisition tool that supports almost any style of shooting for any type of content. Even just 20% off Canons list price would allow you guys to deeply penetrate the EFP/Docco/HD markets (***Addendum***This of course would be for single sensor or s16 film cameras--not 3ccd cameras-- hence the need for pl not a b4 --sorry if I caused confusion). I know these are very complex lenses, I just think you guys would open yourselves up to much greater markets and quell the REDHEAD/Jackleg Boogey man mentality to the people protecting their own legacy investments. Instead you hit them with something that they can benefit greatly from as well... the walls of dissent will fade through consent. I promise you. :nerd:

Sorry for all the question, just dying to shoot with such nice gear (that I own) :-).

Cheers,

Andrew Benz #557

Gavin Greenwalt
10-28-2007, 11:26 PM
Your next step is to make an affordable funny car Jim, I've always wanted to give racing a try.

And here Jim was worried about rookies messing up focus! ;)

Jarred Land
10-28-2007, 11:30 PM
And here Jim was worried about rookies messing up focus! ;)

heh heh i was thinking EXACTLY the same thing. I almost crapped myself first time i STOOD beside one of those cars taking off, i couldnt imagine jumping in and crossing my fingers.

Shawn Nelson
10-28-2007, 11:45 PM
WOw!! nice shots Jim!!

Daniel Reichenbach
10-28-2007, 11:52 PM
Hehehe, up in smoke, great...

mdo
10-29-2007, 12:37 AM
Amazing shot!

Sanjin Jukic
10-29-2007, 02:08 AM
Absolutely fantastic!!!

http://www.sanjinjukic.com/extras/Burkhart.jpg
Burkhart shot - blow up double size from the web video

http://www.sanjinjukic.com/extras/9_firex2sm.jpg
Dragster fire shot - blow up double size from the web video

Roberto B
10-29-2007, 02:15 AM
hey sanjin.. why are you so quick to shoot against macgregor?.. and you do not save words to kiss the ass of the boss..

why?.. because he is the boss?

Tim Lüdin
10-29-2007, 03:08 AM
Damn these cars are almost to fast for 72fps.
A good reason to make our REDs even faster shooting:sarcasm:

For real, I like what I see. Can't wait for the Cam.
Cheers
Tim

Michael Moreno
10-29-2007, 09:12 AM
Jim ever greatful for all the dragster footage

please post some with even the lowest grade sound,

i just keep houping my sounds off when i see these

thanks alot

with respect for your success and hard work

Andrew M.
10-29-2007, 12:14 PM
Shot over the weekend. 1/192 sec shutter speed, ISO 320, RED 50-150 Zoom, 72 fps.

Jim

Anybody knows how to convert 1/192 shutter speed to shutter angle here?
If shutter angle was 180deg then the shutter speed should be 1/144
and if shutter angle would be 120deg then shutter speed will be 1/216

so where 1/192 speed is coming from?

David Mullen ASC
10-29-2007, 12:20 PM
The camera does not have a mechanical shutter so I assume you can select 1/192 as a shutter speed option regardless of the frame rate selected -- it's not mechanically tied into the frame rate as a spinning shutter is.

I'm sure one could do the math to find out a theoretical shutter angle to get 1/192 at 72 fps.

Gavin Greenwalt
10-29-2007, 12:32 PM
132 degrees?

360/1 = 1/72 = one frame

Shutter Speed divided by framerate == [(1/196)/(1/72)] == 72/196 = 0.367 of each frame's potential exposure time is exposed.

.367 * 360 = 132.2 degrees.

edit: or more simply...


Shutter Angle = 360*FPS*Desired Shutter Speed.

132 = 360 * 72 frames per second * 1/196 of a second... I think.

David Mullen ASC
10-29-2007, 12:41 PM
Show-off... :wink:

Gavin Greenwalt
10-29-2007, 11:28 PM
... or you just hold the light meter up and push the little button. I'm a fan of that method. :sorcerer:

Dave Weber
10-30-2007, 09:24 AM
Jim,
HOLY CRAP! The shots were amazing. :w00t:

SF Geek
10-30-2007, 10:57 AM
Jim this is great news, I am so ready for RED Day and all the RED glass I can get my hands on! Is there any chance you can get one in Gibby's hands for LART? (Dates are Nov. 17-18th)

I know that you are extremely familar w/ non- hard lined EFP shooting... When you are out shooting (one man/one camera), do you ever feel the need to have a s16 or B4 HD zoom for greater mobility? Do you think you (RED) might add something like this in the future? I just think if you guys made a pl mount EFP style powered zoom lens with the build of...

http://www.abelcine.com/store/files/products/t_10870.jpg

a canon Canon Super 16 Cine Zoom Lens 10.6 to 180mm

or...

http://www.bostoncamera.com/new%20images/newcanzoom.jpg

the Canon Super 16 Cine Zoom Lens 6.6 to 66mm you would further RED's cause to be THE singular acquisition tool that supports almost any style of shooting for any type of content. Even just 20% off Canons list price would allow you guys to deeply penetrate the EFP/Docco/HD markets (***Addendum***This of course would be for single sensor or s16 film cameras--not 3ccd cameras-- hence the need for pl not a b4 --sorry if I caused confusion). I know these are very complex lenses, I just think you guys would open yourselves up to much greater markets and quell the REDHEAD/Jackleg Boogey man mentality to the people protecting their own legacy investments. Instead you hit them with something that they can benefit greatly from as well... the walls of dissent will fade through consent. I promise you. :nerd:

Sorry for all the question, just dying to shoot with such nice gear (that I own) :-).

Cheers,

Andrew Benz #557

I definately agree with Andrew on this. I was thinking the same thing. I would also take it further and have red design an on lens motor drive similar to what's on a B4 lens. Jim have you thought about this?

Andrew M.
10-31-2007, 12:16 PM
The camera does not have a mechanical shutter so I assume you can select 1/192 as a shutter speed option regardless of the frame rate selected -- it's not mechanically tied into the frame rate as a spinning shutter is.

I'm sure one could do the math to find out a theoretical shutter angle to get 1/192 at 72 fps.

Thanks! Guys, so 1/192 is the absolute actual speed regardless of the fps.
I wasn’t sure of that, since such a strange value of 1/192
As long as we have option to enter shutter speed as a fraction of time (above example) or as a shutter angle I will be more then happy.
Someone mentioned that this is the case?
Andrew

KESLOWCAMERA
10-31-2007, 01:26 PM
That's awesome footage well done. Thanks for sharing