your first thing to record in 4k?

[luis bustamante]

i've been thinking what will be my first subject to shoot in 4k. It sure will be a big moment for me!

Anybody given a thought to this? It'd be great to find about other people's plans!

cheers!

[Brook Willard]

"...press record."
"Is it going?"
"I think - yeah, it's going. Holy shit. I'm shooting 4K right now."
"This is so cool! Think about it... 28MB... 28MB... 28MB..."
"Yeah man... oh geez, look at the depth of field."
"Focus on that lamp."
"...there. That's fantastic."
"Bring the exposure down a little?"
"Yeah... there we go. Hold on, let me pull up the histogram."
"..."
"Ok, got it. I remember Graeme said to expose to the right... like this."
"Sweet!"
"Ooo! Where's the focus assist?"

...

[ChristopherKenworthy]

Human skin, close up, with available light. Then lots of other things, with available light. Then I'll get my DP to come around and let him get his lights out...

[Rick Darge]

Hahahaha yes



"...press record."
"Is it going?"
"I think - yeah, it's going. Holy shit. I'm shooting 4K right now."
"This is so cool! Think about it... 28MB... 28MB... 28MB..."
"Yeah man... oh geez, look at the depth of field."
"Focus on that lamp."
"...there. That's fantastic."
"Bring the exposure down a little?"
"Yeah... there we go. Hold on, let me pull up the histogram."
"..."
"Ok, got it. I remember Graeme said to expose to the right... like this."
"Sweet!"
"Ooo! Where's the focus assist?"

...

[Jarred Land]

"...press record."
"Is it going?"
"I think - yeah, it's going. Holy shit. I'm shooting 4K right now."
"Yeah man... oh geez, look at the depth of field."
"Sweet!"
"Ooo! Where's the focus assist?"

...

funny enough... this was pretty close to what really happened the first time we turned on Franky.

[Tom Lowe]

If it's like all my other cameras, probably my dog or my balcony or something. ;)

[Don Woods]

That is awesome. Just ad yelling in the back ground... "Don't break it" "Do You even know what you are doing"

[Learvis Templeton jr.]

I'm going to shoot the box it came in nothing like cardboard in 4k!:cool:

[IAN SUN]

My monitor displaying an image of my bank's website, and my empty account.

[IAN SUN]

Oh yeah and my massive indebtedness. :eek:

[Ace]

Word of advice. Dont go trying to shoot any of those "special" home videos in 4k.

[Shaun Au]

:D :D :D :D


"...press record."
"Is it going?"
"I think - yeah, it's going. Holy shit. I'm shooting 4K right now."
"This is so cool! Think about it... 28MB... 28MB... 28MB..."
"Yeah man... oh geez, look at the depth of field."
"Focus on that lamp."
"...there. That's fantastic."
"Bring the exposure down a little?"
"Yeah... there we go. Hold on, let me pull up the histogram."
"..."
"Ok, got it. I remember Graeme said to expose to the right... like this."
"Sweet!"
"Ooo! Where's the focus assist?"

...

[Don Woods]

Word of advice. Dont go trying to shoot any of those "special" home videos in 4k.

Are you kidding that is the only reason I have not proposed yet.. Got to have something nice to shoot the honey moon vid with...:D

[Ace]

Are you kidding that is the only reason I have not proposed yet.. Got to have something nice to shoot the honey moon vid with...:D

F1.4 please!

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Word of advice. Dont go trying to shoot any of those "special" home videos in 4k.

Porn?


Er... Anyway, my first subjects will probably be kids, dogs, cat, the neighborhood... Trees, bushes, cars, random people...

[Jochen Schmidt-Hambrock]

Yep, should be big fun spray-make-up-ing an entire porn cast for a 4K shoot.

[Milan Nikolic]

In my case it will be a mass of people walking down the busy shopping street - with my 300mm RED lens!

[Phil Becque]

I'm very lucky - I live on a hill overlooking the Thames Valley - assumming it isn't hissing it down with rain I'll go to a local beauty spot - Winter Hill - you often get really nice clouds over the valley.

I have no idea what type of lens I'll need for that ? Any thoughts? What is anyone's opinion of Cokin filters? I purchased some for my other DV cameras and they seemed to work OK - but would they be good enough with a PRO lens of some sort?

All suggestions welcome.

Thanks, Phil

[Phil Becque]

Word of advice. Dont go trying to shoot any of those "special" home videos in 4k.

- well that's very rich coming from someone with your handle! Tee hee:D

[Blair S. Paulsen]

The real question is; can 4k as a distribution medium catch on in the marketplace if it doesn't make porn more accessible, more exciting, etc. Every other recent market penetration story includes a real push from the mega-billion dollar porn industry.

For 4k porn the casting may take longer than the shooting and the make-up crew may outnumber all the other departments. Of course I always seem to fall for the makeup girls anyway...

[Joe Carney]

Word of advice. Dont go trying to shoot any of those "special" home videos in 4k.

I don't know, if Hugh Hefner calls...I'm there.

[Jaime Vallés]

Every other recent market penetration story includes a real push from the mega-billion dollar porn industry.

Heheh... penetration... hehe...

[joe 1008]

BUT WHERE CAN I WATCH MY 4K SHOT IN FULL RES? :confused:
(noo, not that special home video shot...)

[Blair S. Paulsen]

Westinghouse is taking orders for their 4k LCD panel - only $50K :rolleyes:

I would love to figure out a way to use 4 1080p projectors in an array that would support quad HD res (3840 by 2160). People I have polled in the AV space suggest a unit called a Spyder could do it but they are pricey and they tell me I would need 4 separate computers to drive the whole thing which makes me think I would need to split the image data into four streams which sounds crazy.

Currently the only way I know of to drive any 4k display is via the DCI spec using a wavelet codec called J2K (JPEG2000). To my knowledge that tech is proprietary and is essentially a closed system. You can use their spec to create the master but I am not clear how anyone but them can play it back. LaserPacific is doing 4k DI but monitoring on a 2k Christie projector in house. Do they never actually see the 4k image other than going to the theater to see what it looks like after it has gone through filmout and then onto release stock? Blimey.

Here's a question for the Red Team AFTER the camera is shipping - how could we drive a 4k display if we had one. What pipe would be required? What data rates? New octoMacs with a fast RAID via UDI? Octo-link HD-SDI if that exists? Some new AJA or BMD board still in R&D?

[Mike Devlin]

We just purchased a Sony 4K projector with four dual link cards. My understanding is that to show 4K we need a Quvis (or similar) DCI server with their Octal SDI output for the Sony Projector. Basically we will export DPX from the NLE (or REDCINE) to the Quvis and the Quvis will drive the projector. Not simple. We have put off purchasing the server until after NAB since I expect new (and less expensive) servers to be available by then.

[Blair S. Paulsen]

I will be very impressed if the Quvis server can play back uncompressed DPX files @24fps. Perhaps the fact that the server does NOT have to de-compress J2K files actually makes it easier. My assumption, perhaps totally off base, was that the bitstream of anything but J2K would be too large. I also supposed that the whole DCI server topology relied on a tight set of parameters optimized for the J2K codec but I don't have any specific knowledge of that.

I hope this path you are on with the Sony 4k projector works out well. I hope you will share your experiences with all of us. It may be a few years off but IMHO the holy grail is image as data from the Mysterium sensor all the way to the DCI server.

[Mike Devlin]

I believe the Quvis does process the DPX files using their "patented wavelet compression technologies" producing JPEG2000 type format and then plays that. We will learn more as we go. Right now we have been talking to Quvis because they are on the "Gear We Use" list on the RED website, and I know that some of the RED demos of 4k footage used Quvis with the Sony projector. There will no doubt be other players over time.

A wider selection of 4K projectors would be nice. The good news is the Sony does not cost much more that the 2K projectors from Christie, Barco and NEC. We were in the process of purchasing a 2K Christie when we decided to go for the Sony 4k given we have a couple of REDs on order. Eventually lower cost solutions will be available, although they may not be DCI certified like the Sony.

Since we have a 4K projector in our studio we may work with a few of the other RED users doing wildlife / natural history stuff on the West Coast along the lines of the stock footage discussion Gibby and Camdiver started. Lots of possibilities. At least we can see our own footage in 4k even if near term the rest of the world sees it as HDTV!

[Chris Gearhart]

"...press record."
"Is it going?"
"I think - yeah, it's going. Holy shit. I'm shooting 4K right now."
"This is so cool! Think about it... 28MB... 28MB... 28MB..."
"Yeah man... oh geez, look at the depth of field."
"Focus on that lamp."
"...there. That's fantastic."
"Bring the exposure down a little?"
"Yeah... there we go. Hold on, let me pull up the histogram."
"..."
"Ok, got it. I remember Graeme said to expose to the right... like this."
"Sweet!"
"Ooo! Where's the focus assist?"

...

Brook, that was so smackin' funny!

[Justin Anderson]

i've been thinking what will be my first subject to shoot in 4k. It sure will be a big moment for me!

Anybody given a thought to this? It'd be great to find about other people's plans!

cheers!

...probably just stop at the first pale blue wall I run across and record footage of that for 20min or so...

[Ken Corben]

My first footage will be the classic focus and color charts utilizing all the lenses I intend to use including the Nikons.

Then after running the redcine 4K workflow, me and my hard drives will head straight to Laser Pacific, LA HD post house, for 1080 HDCAM tests/scope/monitors and EFILM for a 35mm test print.

Several thousand dollars later, I will be a veteran Red shooter ready to shoot a demo reel and with the answers clients want to know.

Sharky

[Jared VanLeuven]

My daughter, asking "So is this why we can't we go to MickeyLand this year, Daddy?" :D

[Justin Anderson]

My daughter, asking "So is this why we can't we go to MickeyLand this year, Daddy?" :D

"...or next year? Or the year after? Or pay for my college? Why, daddy, why?"

[Andrew Benz]

My daughter, asking "So is this why we can't we go to MickeyLand this year, Daddy?" :D


"...or next year? Or the year after? Or pay for my college? Why, daddy, why?"

LMAO!

[Jarred Land]

My daughter, asking "So is this why we can't we go to MickeyLand this year, Daddy?" :D

heh heh heh.. sooo sad... but sooo true.

[Martin Jäger]

my wife - without cloth - of course!

martin

[Zakaree Sandberg]

trust me.. no girl or porn actress will want to be shot in 4k.. so if thats anyones intent.. good luck.. stick with a vx2000 it doesnt show ass pimples as much

[Gavin Greenwalt]

"...press record."
"Is it going?"
"I think - yeah, it's going. Holy shit. I'm shooting 4K right now."
"This is so cool! Think about it... 28MB... 28MB... 28MB..."
"Yeah man... oh geez, look at the depth of field."
funny enough... this was pretty close to what really happened the first time we turned on Franky.

Only with Frankie it was '650MB ... 650MB.... 650MB... 650MB...' ;)

[Jeff Kilgroe]

trust me.. no girl or porn actress will want to be shot in 4k.. so if thats anyones intent.. good luck.. stick with a vx2000 it doesnt show ass pimples as much

I don't do porn, but I'd imagine there's several that will allow it if you dangle an extra $50 in front of them. How else do you explain "Girls Gone Wild"?

But to put this in perspective, I showed my wife the full 4K frame of the one milk girl where you can see all the fine hairs on her face/neck, every little dimple, mole, etc.. My wife's only statement was "You're not pointing that thing at me."

So yeah, I think you're mostly right.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Lola might be getting a lot of extra business this year.

[chekov]

Guess I'm gonna stack my 9mm and shoot my old cameras to little pieces...

[Joe Carney]

I have a feeling there will be a lot of CG based makeup going on in the future.

Joe C.