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Yannick Hagman
11-03-2007, 07:46 AM
Very ugly! Panasonic knows how:
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=199163&modelNo=Content10302007044211646&surfModel=Content10302007044211646

Russian design at it's best! :)

Cüneyt Kaya
11-03-2007, 07:48 AM
when a normal cam is pamela a., this is definitly roseanne.

Jeff Kilgroe
11-03-2007, 07:49 AM
1440x1080, wow, I've died and er, gone somewhere other than heaven.

I was too scared to hunt down the price tag.

Eirik Tyrihjel
11-03-2007, 08:22 AM
Oh my god, that´s hideous!

Jason Francois
11-03-2007, 09:19 AM
Wow, that's as if they didn't even think to have an industrial designer anywhere near this project. Yuk.

I Bloom
11-03-2007, 10:42 AM
Gawd! :(

Häakon
11-03-2007, 10:47 AM
I'm more concerned about the "maximum" 13mbps (that's bits, folks) recording rate. That's half of DV, yet they're recording twice the resolution. Even worse, there's a 6mbps option to smash it down even more!

I understand that with a consumer camera, long record times are important... but at least give users the option of a decent bitrate!

Oh, and yes... that thing looks disastrous. :-P

Fergus Meiklejohn
11-03-2007, 10:48 AM
fantastic! I'm cancelling my RED order..:biggrin:

Petr Dvorak
11-03-2007, 08:56 PM
:sick: :wacko: :blink: :blink:

and its around 1700,- $

Cail Young
11-04-2007, 03:46 AM
It looks like an update of their DVCAM unit of a very similar design.

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=98187&catGroupId=14571&surfModel=AG-DVC20

Yannick Hagman
11-04-2007, 03:56 AM
the old one still looks better than the new one. :shifty:

Justin Anderson
11-04-2007, 04:38 AM
Very ugly! Panasonic knows how:
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prModelDetail?storeId=11301&catalogId=13251&itemId=199163&modelNo=Content10302007044211646&surfModel=Content10302007044211646

Russian design at it's best! :)

it hurts the eeeyys!!!!!

Mark Thorpe
11-04-2007, 05:15 AM
Great, I'll get ten.....or do I keep 'DEEP C' (aka RED #954).....hmmmm, let me think on that one!

OK, I'll keep RED, but it was close.....:umm:

Cheers,
Mark.

Ivan G
11-04-2007, 07:46 AM
Come on guys at least it does 1440x1080. Now here comes the good stuff.....

Dominic Jones
11-04-2007, 08:52 AM
I'm more concerned about the "maximum" 13mbps (that's bits, folks) recording rate. That's half of DV, yet they're recording twice the resolution.
Make that four times the resolution Haakon - yikes, it's 1/8th the bitrate of DV!!!

Mmmm....

Häakon
11-04-2007, 11:02 AM
Make that four times the resolution Haakon - yikes, it's 1/8th the bitrate of DV!!!

Mmmm....
Well, it doesn't do full 1920x1080... so I wasn't giving them the extra benefit. :) But yeah, those are pretty scary specs!

Jeremy Hughes
11-04-2007, 12:42 PM
It's the Panasonic HDC-SD1 in a bigger body with a bigger EFV, LCD monitor and microphone. And a lens hood and shoulder pad. It's probably really light too.

It's AVCHD, so it's not that bad. I would say that when it's scaled to 480i or 480p, it's probably just as good if not better than DV, but it depends on the quality of the camera itself.

And I thought the AG-HVX200 looked funny. It makes it looks beautiful now.

http://images.camcorderinfo.com/images/upload/Image/Panasonic/Panasonic-HDC-SD1/Full_review/Product_images/Panasonic_HDC-SD1_Vanity.jpg SD1
http://images.camcorderinfo.com/images/upload/Image/news/2007/Panasonic/AG-HMC70/AG-HMC70_vanity.jpg HMC70
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/images/models/ag-hvx200.jpg HVX200

jimhare
11-04-2007, 01:00 PM
The link was down for a while so I had to try to imagine just how ugly it could possibly be. The link is back up and it has exceeded my expectation. Looks like a bad prop from a Jr. High musical.

Sven Seynaeve
11-06-2007, 03:51 PM
Me myself i shouldn't even have bought this thing 10 years ago, it's so damn ugly. It reminds me to a "superb" camcorder a friend wanted me to sell some years ago.

RED,BLUE&GREEN
11-06-2007, 04:42 PM
Well, the camera does have a vf, Audio, and playback!

OK ... just joking.........Its Ugly.!!!..just close your eyes and press record.
Maybe panasonic should make a 1k/s record rate so you never have to stop shooting.

Tom Lowe
11-06-2007, 05:20 PM
HA HA HA... that thing looks like the old VHS camcorders.

Nathan Buxton
11-06-2007, 11:53 PM
i cant believe it.. yet i can.

it looks like they want to capitalize on people who want their camers to look impressive (ie big) but dont care about true performance.

Craig W. Bickerstaff
11-07-2007, 12:05 AM
Maybe Panasonic's design team where on strike during the production of this camera.

Fix
11-07-2007, 02:13 AM
Thats.... strange. How?.. bah I give up

John Godden
11-07-2007, 09:30 PM
It's sad to think that Pani wasted their engineering efforts on this POS instead of updating the HVX. :waaa:

Regards
JohnG

Jonathan L. Bowen
11-08-2007, 03:49 PM
Wow what the hell is that?! Maybe they're just joking. I mean we could hope right?

I love my HVX200 but this thing is seriously bad looking and it's not like it makes up for it with killer specs, either.

Craig W. Bickerstaff
11-08-2007, 03:56 PM
To say something to the defense of panasonic's design team or maybe even panasonic perhaps the execs demanded a camera of those specs to compete with one of Sony's products but the team weren't interested in working on the project so they quickly threw something together just to keep them happy.
Remember most people in exec positions don't know the first thing about design.

Greg Voevodsky
11-08-2007, 05:35 PM
RUSSIAN 4K CAMERA not so ugly... a bit boxy, DA...
but we like boxy in Russia...

http://www.kinor.ru/products/camera/dc4k/

Much more beautiful than Japanese.

John Godden
11-08-2007, 09:33 PM
RUSSIAN 4K CAMERA not so ugly... a bit boxy, DA...
but we like boxy in Russia...

http://www.kinor.ru/products/camera/dc4k/

Much more beautiful than Japanese.

That Rusky cam has a good industrial/commercial look.

JohnG