New Mattebox news [Archive]

PaulClements

11-03-2007, 03:55 PM

Hi all,

I've just come into a little bit of information that on Monday we'll be privy to some interesting news about a certain new mattebox coming onto the market, with a little Red twist especially for us folk. The news should also include tentative shipping dates in the not too distant future!!!

Just thought I'd give you a headsup in case any of you were about to plant down $5k on a mattebox because options are currently limited.

Should be good.

Paul

chuck colburn

11-03-2007, 03:57 PM

Paul.....
PT
Know what that stands for? LOL

PaulClements

11-03-2007, 04:03 PM

Rhymes with "Trick Peas"? :wink:

Adam Jeal

11-03-2007, 04:17 PM

C'mon Paul! - has Curt come up with the goods?

Simon Blackledge

11-03-2007, 04:25 PM

Tease! :-p

s

Adam Jeal

11-03-2007, 04:31 PM

Are Red going to manufacture & market Curt's Mattebox as well as his lens motors? I wonder..

Jay A. Kelley

11-03-2007, 05:06 PM

Well it looks like I may want to put a halt to this group buy of Arri matteboxes until I know what's up. We were getting setup to get the order out beginning of December, but if a new mattebox is coming out around that time, it may not be nessesary.

I'm curious!

Jay

I just hope the schedule, whatever it is, is pretty dependable. We got Arri to pull a pretty sweet deal for us RED users.

albert rudnicki

11-03-2007, 05:10 PM

shhh, let's wait and see:)

Greg M

11-03-2007, 05:12 PM

Personally i am sticking w/ Arri regardless...I already have 3 Arri matte boxes, and all the rental houses I use have Arri. So most of the parts are interchangeable.

Damien Molineaux

11-03-2007, 05:31 PM

Oakley filters, with up to a 2.1 ND !!!

david farland

11-03-2007, 05:47 PM

No comments to offer, but we are paying attention to the feedback....

I figured this passing comment posted in the Matte Box Woes (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=34979&postcount=75)thread meant more than how's your dad.

I've been going thru the Arri MB-20 and I hope to god this new matte box has most of the Arri choices.
I'm not concerned about adapter, filter or reduction rings (Arri has over 50) as these could be bought off Arri or Chroziel as long as they use their internal filter stage mounting standards.

But this new Matte box will need:
4 different filter frames plus at least 138mm circular filters....hopefully I can put 4x5.6 filters in 5.6x5.6 tray (Arri can't).

Support for 19mm, 15mm offset, 15mm lightweight rods and clamp on!
XYZ filter box adjustment plus tilt axis support (Arri can't) and graduated filter adjust.

Be nice to know what hard matte sets they'll be making....16x9 or 1:1.85.

All the other stuff....flags, swing-away,nobs in the right spot, carry case, $1K (but I'm guessing $1750 plus add-ons) I sure will be taken care of.

Hey Jay,
It depends on what this new box does....it may not have the adapterabilty of the Arri.
Bear in mind the MOST important thing this new matte box needs to be.....is FLEXIBLE enough to take all the lens & filters that will be shoved on it.

Cheers,
Dave

roryhinds

11-03-2007, 05:55 PM

not to piss on anyones parade but this is likely referring to RedRockMicro's mattebox which they had say they will announce a shipping date on Wednesday (was Monday then they changed there mind to Wednesday).

nothing new. this forum loves rumors. same shoes different socks.

david farland

11-03-2007, 05:59 PM

That make a lot of sense....

If it is Redrock's.....screw that!

Dave,

PaulClements

11-04-2007, 01:33 AM

Lol sorry, yes it is Redrock's. I spoke to Brian Valente and he filled me in on a few bits. I hadn't realised he'd mentioned putting up a shipping date on the Redrock forum. He said not to post anything with too many details about it so my apologies for the original post perhaps being overly ambiguous.

Yes the announcement is now Wednesday as Rory mentioned. He gave me all the details that they will likely be posting all being well, but he of course asked me not to post them since they'll be making the announcement officially. The Red twist is a nice touch and Brian has certainly taken time to produce something with the Red users in mind so I'm hopeful for good things.

The delivery dates should be good for red owners and the mattebox sounds like it's shaping up very well indeed for anyone looking to buy something which is feature rich and very affordable. 4x4 upto 5.65x5.65, swing away, multiple filter stages etc etc. Kind of harsh by the way David, if we all went by the if it's cheap it's gonna be crap pov then none of us would be buying a RedOne! Give it a chance and wait and see what the production models are like, you never know you might be pleasantly suprised. Personally I think it's good that there are companies and individuals trying to alter other areas of the cinematography market which are heavily priced. I'm also keen to see what Curt comes up with in the I-hope-not-to-distant-future :).

Of course if you can afford an ARRI then go for it. You're buying a great MB if you do, one which pro's know inside out and will have good rental value and hopefully last you a good many years. If you need something soon and have been holding off on getting something and thought you were going to have to spend massive amounts then you might be in luck. Fingers crossed Brian and co come up with the goods perhaps sooner than anticipated.

Again sorry for the confusion, I was tired when I wrote it and just stuck it up without really thinking!

Paul

david farland

11-04-2007, 01:47 AM

It was more the let down that the mystery matte box wasn't the $5K Arri killer, great Red/CVB hope.....that prompted my comment, not the price. I oblivious generally, but specifically to what the Matte box costs.

Dave,

PaulClements

11-04-2007, 02:05 AM

Fair enough. Just sounded a bit harsh on rr on initial reading.

Target price for the mattebox is $500. Extra flags and filter stages priced accordingly.

Paul

Darwin

11-04-2007, 02:34 AM

I'm not opposed to a Redrock MB for $500 if it serves its purpose and functions well.

Steve Sanacore

11-04-2007, 03:52 AM

I will definitely wait and see how the Red Rock looks before committing to ARRI. Thanks for keeping up posted.

albert rudnicki

11-04-2007, 04:41 AM

That make a lot of sense....

If it is Redrock's.....screw that!

Dave,

It's quite unfair to make a such a "statement", David.
Posts like that can actually cause harm to those who don't really deserve it.

david farland

11-04-2007, 05:20 AM

Posts like that can actually cause harm to those who don't really deserve it.

I guess you also must be referring to Jay's comments where he was going to suspend the Arri deal.

It was billed (inadvertently) as the $5K Arri killer and turned out not to be.....read my comments....enough said.
Cheers,

Blue

11-04-2007, 06:19 AM

What's that? Where is it billed as "The $5k Arri Killer"? That's pretty dramatic stuff. Where is it quoted (or billed), did I miss something? If I have it's the first time.

Curran Giddens

11-04-2007, 06:25 AM

What's that? Where is it billed as "The $5k Arri Killer"? That's pretty dramatic stuff. Where is it quoted (or billed), did I miss something? If I have it's the first time.

Maybe he was referring to the View Factor Studios matte box? Lots of us here are anxiously waiting for an ETA from Curt.

Steve Sanacore

11-04-2007, 06:29 AM

What's that? Where is it billed as "The $5k Arri Killer"? That's pretty dramatic stuff. Where is it quoted (or billed), did I miss something? If I have it's the first time.

Maybe an Arri alternative but I doubt any product could be an "Arri Killer"

(except maybe a RED camera body)

Blue

11-04-2007, 06:31 AM

Maybe...

grandpa it burns

11-04-2007, 07:58 AM

Yes, maybe...

Jeff Kilgroe

11-04-2007, 09:16 AM

I've been following most every detail I can get on both the RedRock and ViewFactor mattebox projects. I submitted my "reservation" for the RedRock long ago, just in case.

All I can say is that having used and studied an ARRI MB20 and MB14, there is absolutely nothing there to justify the high prices. Well, OK, it's still a niche industry and I'd say they have the best product currently available. But in terms of design and manufacturing vs. end user costs, the yin and yang don't balance out.

I can't wait to see what RedRock has and at $500 I don't see how I can go wrong to give it a try.

Greg M

11-04-2007, 09:22 AM

The mattebox really just serves two functions:
1. Shade the Lens
2. Hold filters.

If a $500 product allows you to do this then thats great, you have saved a bundle that you can now spend somewhere else. I have used over a dozen Matte boxes throughout the years and they have all served their purposes well, even the cheaper ones.

Currently since I already have several Arri products and still rent 35mm gear, the Arri is the best option for my new Red...but if you are only using the new Matte box on your Red, you will likely be served better by a cheaper alternative. Everyones needs will be different, none are right or wrong.

Dan Blanchett

11-04-2007, 09:32 AM

Before this RedRock announcement, I was leaning toward the Arri MB group buy, depending what the final terms were. Now it seems more prudent to wait and see. I'd still like to know what the Arri deal would be so I have all the facts. However, if the RR is of decent quality, it's hard to ignore the price. If nothing else, it may be a nice stop gap measure until we see what Curt comes up with.

Jeff Kilgroe

11-04-2007, 09:39 AM

However, if the RR is of decent quality, it's hard to ignore the price. If nothing else, it may be a nice stop gap measure until we see what Curt comes up with.

I'm definitely interested in the ARRI group buy and hate to shoot that potential deal in the head for now. But this is definitely what I'm thinking. For $500, I can get something that should hold me over until I make the final decision and there's a good chance that the $500 mattebox may just end up being "the one".

Brian Valente

11-04-2007, 09:40 AM

Dan Blanchett

11-04-2007, 09:43 AM

I'm definitely interested in the ARRI group buy and hate to shoot that potential deal in the head for now. But this is definitely what I'm thinking. For $500, I can get something that should hold me over until I make the final decision and there's a good chance that the $500 mattebox may just end up being "the one".

Exactly. Even if I get the RR, I'd still be interested in the Arri FF4.

Ken Willinger

11-04-2007, 09:44 AM

Will the trays hold various size filters? How many stages rotate? Can stages be added?

Dan Blanchett

11-04-2007, 09:49 AM

Thanks Brian.

- Is the swing away part of the base package, or extra?
- What do you anticipate a full RR MB package with all accessories costing?
- Can the RR accommodate larger lens elements up to 144mm?

Michael Schrengohst

11-04-2007, 09:50 AM

I have a lens with a 124 MM front element, will the RR MB
be big enough?

Brian Valente

11-04-2007, 09:50 AM

Oh - also in case you want the basic info we've already published you can find it on our product page here (just to minimize questions on the most obvious information)

http://www.redrockmicro.com/microMattebox.html

Ken Willinger

11-04-2007, 09:55 AM

Thanks, that answered my questions...and more.

Jim Hoffman

11-04-2007, 10:01 AM

Sounds interesting... seems like good info coming this week!

Ed Watkins

11-04-2007, 10:16 AM

Folks

Well, so much for keeping it a bit under the rader :). It's true, we'll be posting some significant news Wednesday. In the interest of getting everyone's questions on the microMatteBox answered, please feel free to post any questions about the microMB to this thread, and we will do our best to provide answers to everything we can at that time, so you can be informed buyers.

Thanks again

Brian

Hi Brian,
I signed up my email on your site to reserve two of the matteboxes a few months ago, and never heard anything back.

Should I assume that the MB's will be sold in a reservations first manner like the RED's are, and if so is there a huge waiting list already?
(I know it might be too soon to ask this, and that you'll probably answer on wed, but no harm in asking...)

Brian Valente

11-04-2007, 10:27 AM

We'll give all the details on wed, but yes, we will be working from our reservation list. We will also send this info to the reservation list as well on wednesday

Brian

Jeff Kilgroe

11-04-2007, 10:36 AM

Hi Brian, thanks for stopping by.

It doesn't clarify on your web site, but in the July email to reservation holders it was stated that the mattebox would hold filters up to 6x6 and would handle lens diameters up to 156mm. I was wondering if this is still the case?

Anyway, I'm anxiously awaiting whatever announcement you have for us on Wednesday.

PaulClements

11-04-2007, 11:10 AM

Folks

Well, so much for keeping it a bit under the rader :)...

Brian

Sorry about that :)

I figured people here would want to know about an alternative and upcoming MB though, just incase they were about to pick one up. Besides a bit of third party marketting never hurts!

By the way, I am in no way affilliated with RedRockMicro. Though Brian has promised me a tonne of free gear for plugging his stuff... isn't that right Brian lol :shifty: (I jest!).

Paul

Brian Valente

11-04-2007, 12:39 PM

oh yes of course - free products for everyone in perpetuity :)

Brian

Dan Blanchett

11-04-2007, 12:56 PM

PaulClements

11-04-2007, 01:55 PM

Brian, sorry if this seems repetitive, but what's the largest size front element the new RR MB can accommodate? The web site doesn't specify. It would great if this could be used on large zooms like the Cooke 18-100.

Or is this a "wait until Wednesday" question?

Thanks!

Hi Thinkbug,

Whilst I can't answer for definate this is what I gathered from early conversations I had with Brian. Bare in mind this may no longer be true so he ought to chime in when he gets the chance and correct or confirm.

Initially the MB will be available with filter sizes upto 5.65x5.65" and rotating upto 4x5.65". If there is a call for a 6x6" RR will probably manufacture that stage size. With this in mind it's possible that the MB has been future proofed for the larger lenses.

Again though I can't be sure.

Paul

Jim Exton

11-04-2007, 02:07 PM

6x6 are very common, this would be an excellent option to have.

Jeff Kilgroe

11-04-2007, 02:55 PM

and rotating upto 4x5.65".

No rotating 5.65x5.65 to start? Grrr.... hope that's not the case. That would be a deal breaker for me having to be stuck with 4xNNN for rotation.

nick allsop

11-04-2007, 04:02 PM

will the RRMB only work on 15mm bars or will it work with 19mm bars as well.

ChristopherKenworthy

11-04-2007, 05:25 PM

Thanks for all this Brian. Regarding the reservation list, can we get a number and ETA, as we do with Red? For me, that will make all the difference as to whether I buy RR. I have a shoot date, I need my stuff by then. Any chance it can work this way? Thanks.

Brian Valente

11-04-2007, 05:31 PM

Yep - we'll cover all that on Wednesday.

For now, keep the questions coming and we'll get the answers together in a faq addenda and available for wed as well.

Thanks

Brian

Paul Kalbach

11-04-2007, 06:41 PM

will the RRMB only work on 15mm bars or will it work with 19mm bars as well.

According to their website the RRMB mounts on 15mm bars; so you would need to use the RED 15mm adaptor. BTW, as an owner of a RedRock M2 cine adaptor and their Follow Focus, I can say the quality of their gear so far has been quite good, so I put in a reservation for their MB as soon as it was announced.

Jannard

11-04-2007, 06:52 PM

I think that RED Digital and Curt may be up to something...

Jim

Jeff Kilgroe

11-04-2007, 06:55 PM

I think that RED Digital and Curt may be up to something...

Coool. Now another suspicion of mine has been semi-confirmed by a tease. :blink:

Adam Jeal

11-04-2007, 06:56 PM

I think that RED Digital and Curt may be up to something...

Jim

I knew it!:biggrin: - Is this why Curt's been so quiet Jim? - can you give any details?

adam

Dan Blanchett

11-04-2007, 07:00 PM

I think that RED Digital and Curt may be up to something...

Jim

The plot thickens! :detective2: Between the Vocas promoters, the Arri group buy, the RR MB announcement and now this, what's a RED User to do?

Adam Jeal

11-04-2007, 07:01 PM

The plot thickens! :detective2: Between the Vocas promoters, the Arri group buy, the RR MB announcement and now this, what's a RED User to do?

Count on Curt & Red! - I think the Arri group buy (for the MB, not the FF) could have gone 'bye-bye'

Jeff Kilgroe

11-04-2007, 07:11 PM

what's a RED User to do?

...Thank my lucky stars that I'm #1110 and not #210 so I still have a couple months to sort things out. ...Hopefully.

Poi Boy

11-04-2007, 07:20 PM

...me, I need an mb right NOW so I guess i'm stuck.
Aloha
-A

S. Um

11-04-2007, 07:37 PM

Anybody working on a good tripod with a Red price structure?

Daniel Reichenbach

11-04-2007, 08:13 PM

Curt confirmed me yesterday, there will be news this week... I felt it. Curt, his ideas and RED would be a nice couple. Curt was to calm for me the last weeks ;-)

CVB

11-04-2007, 08:47 PM

:shiftyph34r:

Finner

11-04-2007, 08:56 PM

With Curt's design sense I have a suspicion that a MB from him will be very good.

Joel Kaye

11-04-2007, 08:57 PM

Huh. So RedRock and CVB may announce something the same week!? Can't wait for the side by side comparisons. :w00t:

david farland

11-04-2007, 09:18 PM

:shiftyph34r:

Nice to see you're prepared for the spears!

Matte box functionality and compatibility are elements that can be discussed on this forum.
However, most people will not be in a position to judge the build quality of the Red/CVB against the Arri box.
How can this be addressed particularly if people have Arri level quality build requirements?

Dave,

CVB

11-04-2007, 09:20 PM

I dont remember saying I was going to announce anything this week, I think Daniel (arts beat) misunderstood my email to him. I said that I would be giving our mirus customers an update this week and that the mattebox news would be forthcoming.... I guess that could be interpreted as being this week :)

Shawn Nelson

11-04-2007, 09:38 PM

I need this matte box yesterday!

MikeHedge

11-04-2007, 10:20 PM

HD Expo anyone.....? hopefully some cool news...

Evin Grant

11-05-2007, 12:40 AM

Curt, you had me at forthcoming. Will you be at HD-expo? If so I'll say hi.

PaulClements

11-05-2007, 02:26 AM

Wow, now that's what I call a gatecrash :). Jim or Curt any speculative release dates for it then? Last I heard Curt was going to be releasing some renders a couple of months ago but nothing has surfaced. I have every faith that an exceptional product will be produced but if the designs are still in the preliminary stages then it sounds like it's going to be a few months before anything is actualy released - would that be a fair assumption?

RR by comparison is ramping up for production by what I can gather. Sounds like the combination of both MB's could be beneficial to both parties, RR offers an affordable solution for the near future to fill that gap for those waiting on Red/Curt to deliver. For without RR most people would be buying something like an ARRI or Chrosziel fairly soon meaning no matter how wonderful the Red/Curt offering is their wouldn't be enough of a reason to pick one up.

I can well imagine I'll be buying one of each, it's always good to have a spare of anything anyway and the fact that both combined will be less than half the price of an ARRI or Chrosziel can only be a good thing!

Paul

david farland

11-05-2007, 02:52 AM

For without RR most people would be buying something like an ARRI or Chrosziel fairly soon.....
Paul

Paul,
Don't forget Vocas, Petroff, Geardear or Cavision.
Dave

PaulClements

11-05-2007, 03:07 AM

Yeah they fall in the "something like" :)

Vocas and Petroff aren't cheap, Cavision is priced around or slightly more than the expected Curt/Red offering according to early estimates on the price and Geardear doesn't offer the features that RR does. My reference was simply that it makes the most sense fincancially to people as a second MB or even simply as a stopgap whilst waiting for Red/Curt to deliver. It's also a good thing for Red and Curt since people won't be spending a small fortune on one of the more expensive matteboxes and will therefore be willing to shell out on Red/Curts when it does finally arrive... Best of both worlds for both companies and Red users.

Paul

david farland

11-05-2007, 03:29 AM

I should be a bit careful about picking two Matte boxes that aren't released yet to be your best of breed!

PaulClements

11-05-2007, 03:33 AM

I'm not picking my best of breed, I'm picking my best of wallet.

Paul

david farland

11-05-2007, 12:04 PM

Makes sense.....

Can I've your Red?
Dave

Brian Valente

11-05-2007, 12:50 PM

David, I may be a bit slow here, but I'm getting the sense that if you were to throw a party, Redrock wouldn't be invited :cold:

Evin - I'll be at HD Expo wednesday so maybe we can catch up if you're around then.

Brian

PaulClements

11-05-2007, 01:01 PM

Makes sense.....

Can I've your Red?
Dave

I guess this is a reference to me not being able to afford the camera because I'd rather not pay $5k for a mattebox? By all means take my comments with a pinch of salt, completely disregard my advice as utter BS if you so wish. It's no skin off my back either way. But that comment seems to be cutting it a little close for my liking. Perhaps I'm wrong and it's meant in good humour but it didn't come across that way.

Paul

Conrad Kucharski

11-05-2007, 01:12 PM

5000 for an Arri, or 500 for a RR.
RED ROCK Matte box seems to be the winner.

You would be foolish to spend the 4500 extra for an industry professional name brand. I would rather buy the Red 300mm with that extra bit of dime.

Finner

11-05-2007, 01:53 PM

5000 for an Arri, or 500 for a RR.
RED ROCK Matte box seems to be the winner.

You would be foolish to spend the 4500 extra for an industry professional name brand.

$200,000 for a ferarri or or $8,000 for a lada. Lada seems to be the winner.

You would be foolish to spend $192,000 extra...

I think you see what I am getting at.

Don't get me wrong I have met Brian and other redrock guys at NAB and from what I have seen they are working their butts off and really listening to put together the best quality products possible. Compared to other brands though right now arri is really in a league of their own and although others are entering the ring with some strong contenders I would not say they are comparible to arri until they come out and some testing is done.

My pocket book and I wish the best of luck to the new guys.

Wade McDonald

11-05-2007, 02:11 PM

jaadgy akanni

11-05-2007, 03:04 PM

my .02$ --

I personally like the 6x6 form factor, and all of my investment over the last few years has been in a 6x6 MB and filters to match. Then again, I like large lenses... (can't help it.. I interned with Panny when I was in school) With the RED, I can see that it may be a bit bulky -- especially given that the camera itself practically screams "handhold me!" everytime I see it -- but I shoot cine-style primarily, and I like the flexibility of buying one filter and knowing that it will work on any lens, any direction. My advice is to compare the features of whats available and your own personal needs -- your style. In this way I agree with Finner -- a tried-and-true mattebox has a lot of features and a lot of flexibility. Don't buy solely based on price.

That said, I support the Redrock guys wholehartedly. I purchased one of their M2 PL mount adaptors in order to shoot a no-budget feature with a friend earlier this year. They were helpful, friendly, and produced a good-quality product at a pretty great price that worked exactly as I had hoped. If their product's specifications meets your needs then go for it.

In the end, decide what you need and choose based on that.

And to that, you can add the fact that at first, the RedRockMicro guys started out with the idea of building a Mattebox that would mainly cater to the needs of M2 and other 35mm adapter owners, but they then turnaround and started to listen to our suggestions of what we needed in a Mattebox. And so, the RR mattebox, after going through various stages of development in order to build a product according to our needs, is finally here. I think the guys deserve a fair chance to show what they got for us. I have total faith.

Bruce Allen

11-05-2007, 03:06 PM

How much will this mattebox weigh?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

jaadgy akanni

11-05-2007, 03:11 PM

How much will this mattebox weigh?

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

as far as I know, $500. If you can think of the RED ONe as an Arri camera at a 90% discount, think of the RR mattebox as a MB20 at more or less the same discount rate.

chuck colburn

11-05-2007, 03:12 PM

Yeah Bruce it weighs $500.00 lol

sorry couldn't help it

Anthony Gratl

11-05-2007, 03:17 PM

that's gotta be a few ounces....unless you pay in singles....

Finner

11-05-2007, 03:19 PM

Yeah Bruce it weighs $500.00 lol

If thats $500.00 in change I better get to the gym because I am not sure I can lift it?

jaadgy akanni

11-05-2007, 03:23 PM

Yeah Bruce it weighs $500.00 lol

sorry couldn't help it

hahahaha Am I a dumb ass or what...so funny, I thought I'd read "how much does it cost?"
The mattebox weighs between 2 and 3 lbs.
Good one, Chuck :-)

david farland

11-05-2007, 03:37 PM

Edited version of post here (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=104391&postcount=126):

......the stuff I'm looking for in any Matte Box is this:

- Quality of build/parts.
- Functionality - lots of good options that work well!
- Maturity of product - road tested and I know doesn't break.
- Flexibility - adaptable accessories I can throw anything at.
- Pre sales support-I've been bugging the living bejesus out of the local Oz rep and he (mainly) keep coming back answering all my questions.
- Post sales support- Wait and see but I'm expecting the kind of support Red is giving post sales....oh yeah....it breaks and local agent give me a replacement loan.
- Price - Huge discount wanted.
- Resale value & Hire appeal - Speaks for itself.

I think the Red Rock MB will be a good product and will probably fit their market, not every market!

Cheers,
Dave

Bruce Allen

11-05-2007, 03:46 PM

hahahaha Am I a dumb ass or what...so funny, I thought I'd read "how much does it cost?"
The mattebox weighs between 2 and 3 lbs.
Good one, Chuck :-)

Jaadgy, you made me feel much better - I thought it was only me who says things like that ;) Although I do it on a daily basis which isn't a good sign...

So the table is roughly:

Vocas MB450 - 1.9lbs (not including swing-away or mount? Anyone have a full figure?)
RR - 2-3 lbs (projected?)
Arri MB20-II - 3.5lbs (again, anyone have exact figures?)
Curt's - 4-5lbs (projected based on the last post?)
Petroff - ?
MB-14 - ?
old Arri clip-on lightweight matte box - ?

I know this varies a lot depending on config - anyone own one of these suckers and can tell us how much a common config (3 stages, swing-away) weighs? Esp relative to the industry-standard Arri MB-14 and the Arri clip-on? Is a Vocas or Redrock swing-away as light as an old Arri clip-on? I'd like to know (maybe it's just me though ;)

Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com

Chris Gearhart

11-05-2007, 05:20 PM

I'd like to know that too, as well as what filter sizes can be gotten with each, cost, weight, swing away, etc., etc., etc.

Maybe someone will do a chart? :shifty:

Cüneyt Kaya

11-07-2007, 03:32 PM

today is the day, where are the news?

PaulClements

11-07-2007, 04:04 PM

I tried getting hold of Brian earlier but it seems he's pretty busy. Still rounding up suppliers to get fixed dates I should imagine. It was certainly the reason he had to delay any announcement from Monday to Wednesday in the first place.

Hopefully he'll get on here soon enough, or maybe post something over at RR's website. Don't think I'll wait up to hear it though since it's gone midnight here!

Paul