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Scott Resnick
11-05-2007, 06:19 AM
on a shoot with two RED cameras. We cant figure out how to make the RED LCD or the RED viewfinder and make the HD out ports on the side of the camera work so we can send video out to village. Is this a firmware deal and will be fixed or a setting in the camera we missed.
Also when we attach an HD monitor instead of the RED LCD we do not see the full display in the monitor. it cuts right below where it should display the shutter, ASA information.
Lastly when were shooting the free fun time code is not displayed in real time, it slows and then catches its self back up. Any fixes to with problem yet.
Thanks so much. Having alot of fun with the RED.
Greg M
11-05-2007, 06:31 AM
Currently only one monitor at a time...hopefully this will be resolved very soon.
what firmware is on the camera?
David Battistella
11-05-2007, 06:59 AM
In the Toronto tests this was resolved by replacing the RED LCD with Panny LCD that had HD-SDI I/O. This meant the signal could be routed out the side of the camera, through the first monitor and on to the second monitor.
David
CJ Roy
11-05-2007, 12:17 PM
During testing yesterday, we accidently found that we could get a signal from the HDMI port & Preview port at the same time. The tops and the bottoms of the the screen were cut off for some reason, but it showed all of the camera's frame.
-CJ
Greg M
11-05-2007, 02:29 PM
What kind of monitor is needed for HDMI?
I tried a HDMI to HDMI connection to a HD LCD and it says "not supported"
CJ Roy
11-05-2007, 02:50 PM
What kind of monitor is needed for HDMI?
I tried a HDMI to HDMI connection to a HD LCD and it says "not supported"
I used a 25' HDMI to DVI connection to a Dell 24". I forget what model Haakon's monitor was, but it worked as well, with the same connection.
I'll try out an HDMI to HDMI right now.
-CJ
CJ Roy
11-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Just tried the HDMI to HDMI and got the same "Not Supported" on the monitor. Weird. The HDMI to DVI seems to work just fine though. Been using that on the build 8(?) that came with the 50-100 cameras and Build 9.
-CJ
Greg M
11-05-2007, 03:22 PM
I just tried an HDMI to DVI cable on 3 monitors and the last one works perfect...Dell 20" (Ultrasharp 2005FPW).
When HDMI is selected (in camera settings) you get the entire screen including the bottom menus, but PREVIEW output does not work.
When PREVIEW is selected both outputs are active, but you do not see the bottom menus on either monitor.
A couple other notes:
1. If you have CAMERA LCD selected, you can push the top right button on the LCD and toggle between LCD and HDMI and both have the full menu displayed. Its one or the other not both.
2. If you have PREVIEW selected, you can also toggle between PREVIEW and LCD with the same button. The LCD will display the bottom menus but not the PREVIEW monitor.
3. PREVIEW never displays the bottom menus even when the only monitor connected.
CJ Roy
11-05-2007, 03:31 PM
When HDMI is selected (in camera settings) you get the entire screen including the bottom menus
It's very handy to see everything showing up on the external monitors, with the exception for False Color. Can't wait to have that on the external as well.
-CJ
Scott Resnick
11-05-2007, 09:43 PM
we are using 1.3.6 and 1.3.5. Also be careful when plugging in any AUX cables to the battery plate. We have two 8.4' Panasonic monitors go down as well as a down converter that is now sketchy. Were going to have to use out own batteries for the monitors.
Blair S. Paulsen
11-06-2007, 12:56 AM
Known bug which RED is working on which may have affected you when plugging items into the Anton style "D" tap on the battery plate:
a properly machined "D" tap has 2 mitered corners to prevent crossing polarity by accident, the connector on the RED battery plate has too much clearance and will allow you to reverse polarity - I burned up a Marshall monitor this way, literally had smoke coming out of it. I have plugged accessories into the Anton Bauer gold plate on my D-30 hundreds of times without incident because it won't allow you to do it backwards so I was not paying close attention. Lesson learned, lesson passed on...
Scott Webster
11-06-2007, 01:21 AM
IMO the battery plate needs to be recalled and should be done so with the PL mount modification.
That such an important part of the camera is all plastic and I have never seen a battery with that amount of movement on a V-lock plate before. Haven't been caught out by the AB tap but one that allows the incorrect insert of the AB plug is wrong with the consequence of expensive gear going up in smoke needs to be put right.
Red, if it's a matter of cost I am happy to pay more for a quality replacement.
Nathan Buxton
11-06-2007, 02:00 AM
One of the things i HATE HATE HATE the most about my xl-1 is the crappy battery connection. it falls out, cuts out, is flimsy.. gahh...
power supply needs to be 125% reliable.
Greg M
11-06-2007, 05:23 AM
IMO the battery plate needs to be recalled and should be done so with the PL mount modification.
That such an important part of the camera is all plastic and I have never seen a battery with that amount of movement on a V-lock plate before. Haven't been caught out by the AB tap but one that allows the incorrect insert of the AB plug is wrong with the consequence of expensive gear going up in smoke needs to be put right.
Red, if it's a matter of cost I am happy to pay more for a quality replacement.
Agreed---A notice should be sent to all owners IMMEDIATELY...If I fried a monitor I would not be a happy camper. I guess I have been lucky.
BTW- Red should also offer a AB plate as an option, being restricted to Red batteries is not a good idea, and the v-plate to ab plate is a pos.