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Elsie N
03-05-2011, 08:56 AM
I'll be using Nikon lens on my Epic(s) and I am guessing that the camera will out-resolve my lenses. If I am correct, will I be just as well off shooting 9:1 as I will shooting 5:1 or 6:1?

Just trying to wrap my head around whether lower compression will improve a lower resolving lens or if there is some rate that matches a lower resolving lens.

Thanks for any help.

OptiTek
03-05-2011, 09:03 AM
Why would epic be different resolution wise than Redone?
It has the same size pixels. Other factors like DR, S/N ratio level etc. will change but that has nothing to do with lens resolving power- or at best very little to do with it......

Richard Foster
03-05-2011, 09:04 AM
The camera will not necessarily outresolve the lenses since Nikon glass was designed to give excellent resolution on film at 36mmx24mm. I would say do tests but always use the highest resolution available to get the best results. I have made huge 60"wide prints off of Kodachromes shot with Nikon glass that are stunning. The resolving power of Nikon's best lenses (i.e., 35, 50 85 f1.4 and 55 macro for example) is amazing.

Lower compression means higher information yield in complex subjects, so again I would go for as much information as you can.

Elsie N
03-05-2011, 09:21 AM
Why would epic be different resolution wise than Redone?
It has the same size pixels. Other factors like DR, S/N ratio level etc. will change but that has nothing to do with lens resolving power- or at best very little to do with it......
Jacek, I just always assumed the Red One also had the capability to out-resolve my Nikon glass, but Epic gives more options with compression ratios. That interaction was meant to be the crux of my question.

The camera will not necessarily outresolve the lenses since Nikon glass was designed to give excellent resolution on film at 36mmx24mm. I would say do tests but always use the highest resolution available to get the best results. I have made huge 60"wide prints off of Kodachromes shot with Nikon glass that are stunning. The resolving power of Nikon's best lenses (i.e., 35, 50 85 f1.4 and 55 macro for example) is amazing.

Lower compression means higher information yield in complex subjects, so again I would go for as much information as you can.
Interesting take on the Nikon lenses Richard. Some of the things I have read have lead me to believe that some cameras with large sensors could out-perform Nikon glass.

To quote Bogey when told there are no waters in Casablanca.

"I was misinformed.":smile5:

OptiTek
03-05-2011, 09:39 AM
Smaller sensors=more pixel density= higher resolving lenses needed
larger sensor= larger pixels= less resolving lenses needed
I don't know how to get simpler than this...
BTW if lenses resolve fine +/-20 mpix still camera sensors the'll work fine for RedOne and Epic...

Elsie N
03-05-2011, 10:11 AM
Smaller sensors=more pixel density= higher resolving lenses needed
larger sensor= larger pixels= less resolving lenses needed
I don't know how to get simpler than this...
BTW if lenses resolve fine +/-20 mpix still camera sensors the'll work fine for RedOne and Epic...
Did not know that. Thanks for simplifying.

Richard Foster
03-07-2011, 10:03 AM
Jacek and Elsie:

My assumption was that the AIS lenses were developed originally for film, which they were, and that at the time film was the highest resolution available. I have never done truly scientific measurements, but I can say this: I like the resolving power of the Nikon glass subjectively. Charts look good and subject matter, more importantly, looks good and suits the style I'm working toward. My example above of looking at a 60" wide print up close from a Kodachrome slide is a larger enlargement proportionately than projecting film or digital in a movie theater.