FCP to Scratch conform workflow [Archive]

John Tissavary

11-07-2007, 11:08 PM

I'm an FCP newbie, and more or less a Scratch newbie, and am having trouble getting a conform to work in Scratch from and EDL generated by FCP.

The biggest problem I can see is that my quicktime wrappers generated by RedAlert do not have any proper logging - no reel name for example. So when I generate an EDL I get empty reel names. Can't generate a proper EDL without reel names.

But then again, I have no real idea what I'm doing...!!

Help is much appreciated.

thanks,

john t.

John Tissavary

11-08-2007, 01:36 AM

Well, here's a short answer to my own post - I manually added the roll no.s to the clips in FCP and it worked. Is there a setting in RedAlert that will add correct logging making manual redundant data entry redundant?

thanks,

jt (director, department of redundancy department)

Cail Young

11-08-2007, 03:57 AM

REDCINE should fix this, amongst MANY other things.

Mark L. Pederson

11-08-2007, 04:22 AM

I'm an FCP newbie, and more or less a Scratch newbie, and am having trouble getting a conform to work in Scratch from and EDL generated by FCP.

The biggest problem I can see is that my quicktime wrappers generated by RedAlert do not have any proper logging - no reel name for example. So when I generate an EDL I get empty reel names. Can't generate a proper EDL without reel names.

But then again, I have no real idea what I'm doing...!!

Help is much appreciated.

thanks,

john t.

Well, you know enough!!

The lack of reel # in the meta-data of the QT wrapper is a coming soon.

Meantime, if you import the wrappers into FCP, when you change/add the REEL # - it writes it into the wrapper - that is how we are doing it - and yes it sucks - I am sure we see this fixed asap:watsup:

precinct13

11-08-2007, 10:29 AM

I just went through the same thing with hundreds (soon to be thousands) of clips. Not fun, but a small price to pay for the gorgeous footage.

A problem I'm having is that we have several clips with the same reel # and clip # but different date stamps (I was told they couldn't change this on camera).

For example:

A043_C001_071028_001
A043_C001_071104_001

Come conform time, are these clips going to be able to find their way home? If not, any suggestions for a fix? Can I re-name the .r3d files?

Thanks in advance!

Mark L. Pederson

11-08-2007, 10:38 AM

I just went through the same thing with hundreds (soon to be thousands) of clips. Not fun, but a small price to pay for the gorgeous footage.

A problem I'm having is that we have several clips with the same reel # and clip # but different date stamps (I was told they couldn't change this on camera).

For example:

A043_C001_071028_001
A043_C001_071104_001

Come conform time, are these clips going to be able to find their way home? If not, any suggestions for a fix? Can I re-name the .r3d files?

Thanks in advance!

Welcome to our world!!

You need what we need - ABILITY TO EDIT META DATA DIRECTLY IN THE .R3D FILE - so that you can rename files in post - and Scratch (and FCP) will read what you want -

We have made this feature request to RED as a MUST HAVE for us - (and you too!!)

Greg M

11-08-2007, 12:30 PM

One more point, it is absolutely essential that we are able to import an EDL into Red Cine so that we are able to export our clips efficiently.

John Tissavary

11-08-2007, 02:59 PM

REDCINE should fix this, amongst MANY other things.

I thought RedCine was not going to include a conforming tool - but I don't know this or anything else about it for a fact.

RedCine's purpose, as I understand it, is to do a basic grade and convert the footage to whatever format one wishes - quicktime, dpx, etc... but on a shot by shot basis, rather than an assemble from EDL.

regards,

johnt .

Russ Lasson

11-08-2007, 05:36 PM

I don't think we're asking for a conform tool in RedCine. But I would expect that it would enable us to export the shots used in an edl into a different format. That's not conforming. It's more of a high quality gathering tool or onlining, but it's really the missing link in the workflow right now.

-Russ

Curran Giddens

11-09-2007, 09:18 AM

"I'm guess maybe you can "side-step" some of these issues (which CRIPPLED SC FINAL TOUCH and gave me many, many headaches) because (as far as I know) REDCINE isn't going to "conform" - theoretically it is just going to IDENTIFY which media is in the project via EDL/XLM - and then create a PULL LIST (I assume with a handle option) and then allow you to batch process/scale/crop/add LUT, etc. and then let the FINAL POST APPLICATION conform.

So, maybe the best approach is to make sure that ALL MEDIA in the "timeline" is in the PULL LIST - this way, if the editor has not "collapsed" the timeline correctly, it doesn't matter - as all media (used or not) that is in the timeline is in the PULL LIST - "

-Stuart English 01-26-2007

Patrick Tresch

11-09-2007, 09:53 AM

REDCINE... is just going to IDENTIFY which media is in the project via EDL/XLM - and then create a PULL LIST (I assume with a handle option)

-Stuart English 01-26-2007

When exporting r3d files how will REDCINE cut down a 5 minute clip into the 10 sec. shot creating a NEW r3d file?

Is this format editable like a DPX sequence? How does the codec handle an edit/cut down?

Thanks

Pat