JL Cooper

[Lucas Riccabona]

Lucas

As we work with the wavepanel since it's market entry we'd like to do a little step forward along with a new davinci suite. We ve two options .. staying with the wave ore jumping to the eclipse (we don't like to spend 30k for a panel for now). Would it be worth the cost. Some more controls and more robust and responsive feel would be great. Any experience of someone who knows both? It is worth the money?

Thank you

Lucas

[Luis Otero]

Maybe this link can shed more information to make an educated decision:

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=55557

[OlaHaldor]

I've ordered the Eclipse just recently. Have never used a control surface, and from reading others experiences with the Wave I can't say I was impressed. Nor was I impressed when I saw how much the colorist in the FXPHD DAV201 course is struggling through the page up/down menus.

From what I can see in the JL Cooper PDF on the Resolve website, it has most of the controls I need just a click away. Otherwise, I'd map my Logitech G13 to do some funky stuff the Eclipse can't do.



I'll keep you posted when I get the panel in place.

[Luis Otero]

Ola,

I have both. While your comment re: Wave has some merits, the Eclipse has so many unlabeled buttons (plus you cannot do any remapping based on your needs) that it will take you few productions to master it, were the Wave can be learned in way less time.

The first week I received and used the Eclipse, I was so frustrated that I even was very close to go back to the Wave.

So, my advise is that when you decide to acquire it, set aside enough time to learn it before committing it for grading a production.

Just my 2 cents...

[OlaHaldor]

The package with the Eclipse is out for delivery and will arrive any time now. Will write my first impressions with it asap.

[OlaHaldor]

So the panel finally arrived. So far, so good.

+ Robust. Built in some metal.
+ Looks nice on the table
+ Portable without the balls flying in all directions when you lift it to go and carry under the arm (Like it did with my two day trial with the Euphonix)
+ Loads of features within a click of a button (or two)
+ The rings and balls are AWESOME

- I wish I had more of the general controls for hue, luma and saturation qualifier in one "page"
- I wish I could learn this asap Matrix style!
- No way of looping multiple clips like on the Resolve panel


Note, this list is made up by three hours of use. Trial and error. I love it so far. Couldn't be happier with the choice I made.

[OlaHaldor]

Getting busy now.. I'm thrilled with the panel. Didn't think it would get into the fingertips so quickly. I'm grading a music video. The plan was to deliver tomorrow night. Now I can probably deliver it tonight or tomorrow morning. Going from a one-operation Wacom kind of workflow to multiple things at a time is sure worth the price.


Best view in town!
http://hoveng.no/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pov-520x342.jpg

[Peace Villow]

- I wish I had more of the general controls for hue, luma and saturation qualifier in one "page"

you can buy Eclipse Bridge Midnight

http://www.jlcooper.com/_images/_gallery/_photos/jpg/controllers/eclipseseries/eclipsebridgem_Top.jpg
http://www.jlcooper.com/_images/_gallery/_photos/jpg/controllers/eclipseseries/eclipsecxm_with_Eclipse_Bridge.jpg

[Lucas Riccabona]

thx guys for the info ! .... can i add more than one bridge to setup multiple pages ?

thx

Lucas

[Luis Otero]

Remember, if it is for Resolve, no re-mapping is available. For all other main known software, such as Color, the included software will allow you to add one or more bridges and program them as it fits you.

[OlaHaldor]

Let me remind you I'm not as critical as a journalist or anyone who hasn't used it would be. I simply love this one!

If you have any questions, just ask. I'll try to answer as good as I can, either in text or in a new video.

This is not a tutorial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8cWSaLC5-w

[Paul Provost]

how's the reset button situation?

[OlaHaldor]

On my panel, the 1st gen, there is reset buttons for the balls and rings, but not for the rotary knobs. So I'll have to use the tablet and double click the parameter in the GUI if I need to reset it.

Or I can just turn the knob back to whatever it was.

Wish BMD could add SHIFT+RESET B1/R1 - there's enough buttons to reset each rotary knob. But if it's possible, I have no idea.

[Rohit Gupta]

SHIFT+RESET B1/R1 is in v8

[Luis Otero]

Rohit,

Would you elaborate on this? What will be reset with the key combination you are alluding to?

[Kaku Ito]

Just for your information, MC Color will be supported with DaVinci Resolve version 8 that is coming out this summer.

[michael zaletel]

Finally got my Eclipse hooked up with Resolve.

Love It. Highly recommended!

-michael zaletel

[Jason Samuel]

I have JL Cooper for sale for Resolve.. CHEAP!! PM ME or check my ad

[Luis Otero]

I PM you a few days ago, but no response yet...