Warehouse Action Sequence

[Scott M]

http://glorycubed.com/red/red97.mov - 11MB H.264 640X360 [edited, switched to a lower rez to save bandwidth, if for some reason you want to see a higher rez, let me know -- here's a link to the R3D file of the last shot: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HPEME47D]

Just a couple shots lined up to play around with (edited straight off the proxies in FCP). Met up with Pywl also from Nashville area last night and it was the first time we had some lenses to play with (each of the shots shown was via a Zeiss 18mm using available light).

It was a bit of fun and some quick experience, and now we've got some shots to play with (managing the shallow DOF in somewhat low-light is going to be interesting in action).

Anyway, we were up to 2am playing around last night, this camera is a blast! Going to setup in CA in a couple weeks to shoot some Air Force helicopters that should be fun.

---25NOV07
We had a break in the rain for a moment and rushed outside to try and get some shots. Had a couple minutes to throw this together: http://www.glorycubed.com/red/red97b.mov 1/120sec shutter, no ND's (slight CC to match contrast, left the blue hue).

[Ben Feuer]

Thanks for posting...

[Álex Montoya]

Lol..

[Obin Olson]

gotta love your ghetto action shots bro!! YAY! RED FUN!

[Scott M]

Heh, thanks. Have to switch out the link to a low rez (640x360 (http://glorycubed.com/red/red97.mov)) for bandwidth issues, but I threw in some music this time ;).

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

http://glorycubed.com/red/red97.mov - 11MB H.264 640X360 [edited, switched to a lower rez to save bandwidth, if for some reason you want to see a higher rez, let me know]

each of the shots shown was via a Zeiss 18mm using available light).

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hi: what do you mint in this
you did no use any lighting ?
if that is correct that means woooow

[Scott M]

you did no use any lighting ?
if that is correct that means woooow

Correct, we did not setup any lights, just filmed under ambient light. We wanted to get some outdoor shots while we still had the lenses, but it was thunderstorms all day :glare: .

[Álex Montoya]

Directly from REDCINE:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/1434_1195214232.jpg

[Paul Hazlett]

that looks pretty damn good for no lighting.

you could call it "contractor killers"

[Andrew Benz]

that looks pretty damn good for no lighting.

you could call it "contractor killers"

Who knew caulking was so dangerous... ;-)

Thanks for the footage Mr. Glory. I also enjoyed your demo reel. I too will be shooting for the USAF (I am a USAF veteran) when I get my RED, I will keep you in mind.

Cheers,

Andrew

[Scott M]

Directly from REDCINE:


that looks pretty damn good for no lighting.

When we watched the playback on the LCD, that alone blew us away. It's definitely hard to catch the focus in action with that shallow DOF, that'll take some practice and real planning, but it really is a dream of possibilities come true.


you could call it "contractor killers".

Heh, they just picked up what was sitting around (a stick and a caulking tool), pretty hard core! ;)

[Scott M]

I too will be shooting for the USAF (I am a USAF veteran) when I get my RED, I will keep you in mind.

Hey, good deal! I've met a couple other folks who film for the military, maybe we should start a military thread in the usergroup forum :matrix:

[Fredrik Callinggard]

It's definitely hard to catch the focus in action with that shallow DOF, that'll take some practice and real planning, but it really is a dream of possibilities come true.)


Just imagine when you actually start to shoot with the slightly longer lenses (maybe the 24mm instead of the 18mm :innocent: )

Sorry couldn't resist :clown2:

[Scott M]

Just imagine when you actually start to shoot with the slightly longer lenses (maybe the 24mm instead of the 18mm :innocent: )

Sorry couldn't resist :clown2:

Oh no doubt, we actually tried a 65mm for one shot, and with the available light, it was definitely a challange :blink:

[indianaG5]

lol!
Really like the music. Thanks for posting ;)

[Jens Jakob Thorsen]

hahaha you could call it available light but its actually a 100 flourecent tubes in the cieling..It dosent get easier than this. Thats why we use focuspullers in the proffessional world. Try the 135mm

Now you just need to learn how to shoot.

Just kidding...
Good fun, good to see the RED performing in those conditions.
Thanks
JJ
DP
EU

[noclip]

Directly from REDCINE:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/1434_1195214232.jpg

My take on it:

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/9803/colderlightingcs1.jpg

[dvpixl]

i kinda like this look.

looks like Primer. that weird sci-fi film that almost caused me to fall asleep until the very end.

[noclip]

Or, to go completely in the opposite direction:

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9158/alternatebz8.jpg

[Chris Pickle]

The clip has that odd motion I've often noticed. I've tried to descirbe how it makes my eyes "feel", and I'm not sure if it's a shutter thing, but there is something strange. Everyone keeps saying it's just a shutter choice, but I really feel that it's something else.

I load a tonne of 35mm footy into FCP and I never get this strange gut feeling on shots with lots of movement. It's the only thing about the Red that keeps me apprehansive. Everything else rocks.

I would love to hear other opionions, but I suspect I will once again be told it's just the shutter choice. I think there's something else going on.

Cheers,
Chris

(BTW - thanks for the clip)

[Scott M]

I know it's not what you want to hear, but I'd venture that the motion issue (at least in this sequence) is a bit of soft or blur due to the 1/48sec shutter speed in the available light (along with the fact that the action is mostly out of focus). I think I know what you're referring to, I assume you mean the feel of the footage from low light digital shots like in Collateral or Miami Vice. My guess is that if the sequence were shot outside at even a slightly higher shutter (or in the same location with more attention to lighting) it may not have the effect you speak of now (sorry if I'm off base on what you're referring to). Next time we've got some lenses I'll do the same style of action shots outdoors and see how it comes out.

[Chris Pickle]

Yeah, I think you may be on to something in your description. To me it's like my eye can't ever really fix on the object and my brain is trying to process it. As I mentioned, I've seen it on lots of the Red clips. Maybe you're right and it's just slow shutter but sometimes on an obvious fast shutter EXT, I feel the same thing. It's like the frame sample rate never really resolves fully before it's on to the next frame. Weird way to describe, I know.

It's cool that you're being cool about it and offering to test it out further. I'd love to delve into the discussion further, but sometimes this board can be very hostle when someone even gently asks a question that could be viewed as a slight to the camera. I'm a fan, but I still like to do due diligence.

Thanks,
Chris

[Brook Willard]

If you watch footage on a monitor that isn't refreshing at the footage's native frame rate, you will always see stutter. I was seeing some weird stuttering on some of my footage until I put it through HD-SDI to an E Cinema monitor... looked great there! :)

That said, I do have my suspicions that the RED's 1/48th shutter doesn't behave "exactly" like a film shutter. Stupid point to make - of course it doesn't behave in the same way - but I think that a little more work is left to be done in this department.

[Kenn Michael]

I agree, 1/48 on this cam might not be the 'sweet' spot for total film-like motion. 1/60 is probably tack on though. For instance, I like shooting 150 degree shutter angle for most things instead of 180 degrees (1/48 shutter speed)

Jim's 4K clip at the race track (the downloadable one) is probably my favorite RED clip at the moment. Deep focus, 45 degree shutter angle and tons of visual information.

[Scott M]

It's cool that you're being cool about it and offering to test it out further.

We had a break in the rain for a moment and rushed outside to try and get some shots. Not the best conditions to really offer much more for elaboration, but had a couple minutes to throw this together:

http://www.glorycubed.com/red/red97b.mov 1/120sec shutter, no ND's
(slight CC, had an issue with RedAlert's curves--now fixed--so not much was done to the shots before I had to leave again). I'm hoping to get some helicopters this week.

[Chris Pickle]

We had a break in the rain for a moment and rushed outside to try and get some shots. Not the best conditions to really offer much more for elaboration, but had a couple minutes to throw this together:

http://www.glorycubed.com/red/red97b.mov 1/120sec shutter, no ND's
(slight CC, had an issue with RedAlert's curves--now fixed--so not much was done to the shots before I had to leave again). I'm hoping to get some helicopters this week.

Thanks for the clip. The action is certainly a bit crisper.

Cheers,
Chris

[edufierro]

Thanks for the Footage...

[Tom Lowe]

thanks. fun times.

i wish people would post their red stuff at 1080p, though. :(