ULTRAPRIMES, has anyone tried? [Archive]

Miguel "Macgregor" De Olaso

11-16-2007, 04:48 PM

has anyone woked allrady with zeiss/arri ultraprimes and the RED ONE? Do they have the same problems that the T2.1? Or they work beautifully?

Adrian T.

11-16-2007, 05:01 PM

Brian Przypek shot with the Ultra Primes in NYC at night.
See this thread (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5326).

Greg M

11-16-2007, 05:19 PM

I own a set, they look great.

Mark L. Pederson

11-16-2007, 07:15 PM

We have had two full sets of Ultra Primes out on rental from Abel Cine Tech here in NY pretty much since we got our cameras. We LOVE them.

Emmanuel Cambier

11-18-2007, 02:49 AM

Hey Mark

Could you tell me what are those sets consisting of, since I'm about to order some, it would help me greatly.

Thanks

Keep up the good work!

Emmanuel

Mark L. Pederson

11-18-2007, 05:11 AM

Hey Mark

Could you tell me what are those sets consisting of, since I'm about to order some, it would help me greatly.

Thanks

Keep up the good work!

Emmanuel

Abel has two sets, they are not exactly the same, but 14mm - 135mm - I'll try to check and post exact lenses -

Greg M

11-18-2007, 06:51 AM

Here is my set:
Arri Zeiss UltraPrime Set
• Arri Zeiss Ultra Prime 12mm T2
• Arri Zeiss16mm UltraPrime T1.9
• Arri Zeiss 24mm UltraPrime LDS T1.9
• Arri Zeiss 32mm UltraPrime LDS T1.9
• Arri Zeiss 50mm UltraPrime T1.9
• Arri Zeiss 85mm UltraPrime T1.9
• Arri Zeiss 135mm UltraPrime T1.9

My next addition will be the 180mm, a very sweet lens.

But of course you can order whatever focal lengths you want...these are the typical lenses, they also have the in-between fl's.

http://www.arri.com/prod/cam/ult_e.htm#focallength

Greg M

11-20-2007, 06:56 PM

I finally pulled out my Standard Speed Zeiss lenses today and an doing some comparison tests between them and the Ultra Primes. The first thing you will notice is the physical size difference between these lenses. The Ultra Primes seem to be the perfect size physically for the RED ONE Body (see attached images), on the other hand the Standard Speeds seem way too small for the body. Obviously this has nothing to do with performance, but the Zeiss 2.1's just look dinky on the body.

As far as results go, I was extremely impressed with the little 2.1 lenses...I haven't used them in over 10 years and I forgot how sharp these little buggers are, especially the 32mm. It looked great, very sharp image and nice contrast. The Ultra Prime had a much warmer look though...but considering the price difference the 2.1's are a very nice value.

Steve Sherrick

11-20-2007, 07:57 PM

So you're saying size does matter. Hmm..never considered that. :umm:

Steve

Mike Prevette

11-20-2007, 08:35 PM

Wana sell those standard speeds?

Greg M

11-20-2007, 08:43 PM

No, I have two bodies...need both sets.

I do have a extra 16mm and 20mm I will be selling soon, or trading for a 24mm and 100mm.

Mike Prevette

11-20-2007, 09:11 PM

I understand. Also I noticed in the still shots with the standard speeds you were set up for some hardcore iris ramps ;)

Alexander Nikishin

11-20-2007, 09:20 PM

Used the Ultra primes on the weekend for a Yamaha commercial, they looked beautiful.

The 16mm showed no visible portholeing.

Greg M

11-20-2007, 09:53 PM

I understand. Also I noticed in the still shots with the standard speeds you were set up for some hardcore iris ramps ;)

damn...no wonder everything is soft.

I dont understand, I pay my AC top dollar, $75/day for 16.

Greg M

11-20-2007, 09:56 PM

Used the Ultra primes on the weekend for a Yamaha commercial, they looked beautiful.

The 16mm showed no visible portholeing.

Thats only an issue with the 2.1 standard speeds on the widest lenses.

The Super Speeds, and Ultra Primes are fine.

Steve Sherrick

11-20-2007, 09:58 PM

Digitalfx,

I can't believe you have the famous JonathanLB in your quotes, right there with Bob Dylan. Actually now that I think about it, JonathanLB probably has more memorable quotes than Dylan.

Steve

Greg M

11-20-2007, 10:02 PM

that is one of my favorites...the guy is full of gems.

This one is a close second:
"Plus being a grip is not a really skilled position, I learned how to do that job decently in about 5 hours."

Greg M

11-20-2007, 10:03 PM

Thats just retarded. :biggrin:

If you were a "good producer"...:bleh:

Its a know fact...I am a retard. see my sig.

Steve Sherrick

11-20-2007, 10:07 PM

that is one of my favorites...the guy is full of gems.

This one is a close second:
"Plus being a grip is not a really skilled position, I learned how to do that job decently in about 5 hours."
Or the infamous tripod thread. Jonathan is going to be the first person in the world to make a film with Hollywood production value for $5, mark my words.

Jonathan, just having some fun. No disrespect intended.

Steve

Finner

11-20-2007, 10:25 PM

Its a know fact...I am a retard. see my sig.

Ya until Johnathan pointed it out to me I had no idea I had become infected with retardation. Im worried it happened in film school or my first year of working on films. Somewhere around then I learned to respect all the skill of all the various crew positions that made up a complete crew. I had no idea I would become retarded in the process. Can anyone help me? Do you know the cure?

Sven Seynaeve

11-21-2007, 03:54 AM

If you'd like to purchase ultraprimes, what's the cheapest and best way to do it.
Get in touch with zeiss itself, or ARRI. Any thoughts appreciated.

Sven Seynaeve

11-21-2007, 04:00 AM

Ealier there has been mentioned that Arri would make some discounts for redusers, would this be for these items as well you suppose?

Jim McKinney

11-21-2007, 06:15 AM

As far as results go, I was extremely impressed with the little 2.1 lenses...I haven't used them in over 10 years and I forgot how sharp these little buggers are, especially the 32mm. It looked great, very sharp image and nice contrast. The Ultra Prime had a much warmer look though...but considering the price difference the 2.1's are a very nice value.

That's great news, because I just bought a set! ;-)

Jim McKinney

11-21-2007, 06:17 AM

No, I have two bodies...need both sets.

I do have a extra 16mm and 20mm I will be selling soon, or trading for a 24mm and 100mm.

Yo digitalFX, I'd be more than happy to take that 20mm off your hands. And I'm planning to come to the Mardi Gras - though I'm hoping to get a 20 or 24 before then.

Jens Jakob Thorsen

11-27-2007, 01:00 AM

Michael Lindsay

11-27-2007, 03:05 AM

Thats funny, my three favorite lenses are not there 28mm,40mm,65mm!

Curious as to why they are your three favourite lenses?

thanks

Michael

Greg M

11-27-2007, 06:02 AM

Thats funny, my three favorite lenses are not there 28mm,40mm,65mm!

Those are the least common lenses, most DP's prefer the 24, 32, 50 in the Ultras. Any particular reason you prefer the other lenses?

laperal@info.com.ph

11-27-2007, 07:09 AM

Here is the info on them Zeiss Ultra prime lenses:
http://www.arri.com/entry/products.htm

Oli
Red #675
Area: South east Asia

Stephen Williams

11-27-2007, 07:18 AM

Those are the least common lenses, most DP's prefer the 24, 32, 50 in the Ultras. Any particular reason you prefer the other lenses?

Hi,

Often we don't get a choice as the rental house knows best.

Stephen

Greg M

11-27-2007, 03:39 PM

Hi,

Often we don't get a choice as the rental house knows best.

Stephen

Well, the Rental Houses I deal with stock what we want...not what they want us to use. If that wasnt the case they would not remain in business long.

arturrito

12-28-2007, 06:17 AM

First..great Suspicition from Brian Przypek, nice. And Im planning to purchase any of Ultras but someone knows about USA dealer, distributor or prices? We're working in Argentina but all gear purchases and cameras was done in USA. Thanks a lot.

Fredrik Callinggard

12-28-2007, 07:04 AM

Those are the least common lenses, most DP's prefer the 24, 32, 50 in the Ultras. Any particular reason you prefer the other lenses?

Actually the 65mm is well known for it's beauty. It's the perfect lens for beauty portraits. On the Cooke S4's it even has soft focus attachments as an option, just for that purpose.
I'd say that favorite lenses are 24, 32 and 65 (coming from a european opinion).

fred

Mitch Gross

12-28-2007, 07:36 AM

Mark L. Pederson

12-28-2007, 08:51 AM

You can buy Ultra Primes from us at Abel.

Mitch Gross
Technical Director of Rentals
Abel Cine Tech
We have rented the Ultras non-stop from Abel since we got our Red cameras. They are just awesome.

Stephen Williams

12-28-2007, 09:01 AM

Well, the Rental Houses I deal with stock what we want...not what they want us to use. If that wasnt the case they would not remain in business long.

Hi,

There are 1 set of Cooke S4's & 2 Arr 435's in Switzerland, 2 years ago there was just 1 435 & no Cookes! The most modern sync sound camera is a Arri 535. As it happens there are 2 film rental houses but budgets are rather low so they mainly stock Arri III's !

Stephen

Adrian T.

12-28-2007, 09:51 AM

We have rented the Ultras non-stop from Abel since we got our Red cameras. They are just awesome.

The Ultras, Abel, or the Red Cams?

Mitch Gross

12-28-2007, 10:27 AM

The Ultras, Abel, or the Red Cams?

I'd like to think all of the above!

Mitch
Abel Cine Tech

Mark L. Pederson

12-28-2007, 12:28 PM

I'd like to think all of the above!

Mitch
Abel Cine Tech

yup. except that Mitch guy (just kiddin!)

done business with Abel FOREVER. A couple feature films per year. They have saved my ass many, many times.

As far as Ultras - well ... I am NOT a DP - (I do shoot some) - but I look at endless footage in a "R&D based" post environment - with many applications - I LOVE the images you get with Ultra Primes. And do I like the size of the lenses for focus. Only glass that compares IMHO is Cooke S4s. Again, I'm not a DP.

As far as Red goes ... well ... they defy all logic and probability, surpass any liberal expectations - and they are fun, cool and exciting too.

Evin Grant

12-28-2007, 12:51 PM

I'm always dropping by Abel in Burbank, they're great there, Juliette really took care of collimating my standard speed set and at a very reasonable price too. They also have an awesome Zacuto display where you can build little pieces for your rig. I think they are about to or just took delivery or of an Ultra Prime set in Burbank.

Sam Druckerman

12-29-2007, 04:25 PM

Juliette really took care of collimating my standard speed set and at a very reasonable price too.

A BIG + 1 .....

Can not say enough Good things about "Juliette"... Highly recommended.

Greg M

12-29-2007, 04:59 PM

Hi,

There are 1 set of Cooke S4's & 2 Arr 435's in Switzerland, 2 years ago there was just 1 435 & no Cookes! The most modern sync sound camera is a Arri 535. As it happens there are 2 film rental houses but budgets are rather low so they mainly stock Arri III's !

Stephen

that sucks, I guess we are spoiled here.

Greg M

12-29-2007, 05:01 PM

Mark,
Does a Red Warrior beat a Red Ninja?

Gbabymogul

12-29-2007, 06:38 PM

Hi,

Often we don't get a choice as the rental house knows best.

Stephen
No offence, but your producer sucks. :biggrin:

repost from politics thread (bs) - btw, Offhollywood, congrats mate. Imho, you'll make a great addition to moderator central. Take the Porsche out for a spin sometime ;)(i hear all mods get to; didn't you get the memo?). Hope your Soho digs are swanky.

cheers. :beer: