Remote start/stop

[Greg M]

With the current firmware can we remotely start/stop the RED ONE? I have a commercial shoot coming up that will be mostly shot off a Jimmy Jib...what cable is working?

[Michael Schrengohst]

Client: Ford Motor CO.
Project: Theatrical commercial (Shown in theaters ahead of the movie)
Prod. Co.: Spy Films
Market: Canada & France
Director: Javier Aguilera
Director of Photography: Dion Beebe, ASC
Second Unit DP/B Cam Op.: Evin Grant
Redninjas: Blair S. Paulsen & Brook Willard

This has (and still is) an amazing shoot, the hours have been brutal but Dion is a genius. He deserves all the praise and it's obvious why he has an Oscar. I'm truly in awe. I can't reveal much about the actual commercial or show footy yet but here are some stills from the shoot.

http://www.redninjas.net/ford2.jpg
I was operating the Wescam gyro helicopter mount from Pictorvision the first day. I used a cheap air bulb powered still camera release to run the camera.

http://www.redninjas.net/ford1.jpg
The top rails came in very handy mounting the rain deflector upside down for use on the Scorpio head.

http://www.redninjas.net/ford4.jpg
This is the Pursuit Arm (Porsche), not to be confused with the Ultimate Arm (Mecedes). Bitchen rig with the 1st AC & Driver in the front, Dion and Javier (Director) in the back and the Crane Op in the cargo area.

http://www.redninjas.net/ford3.jpg
Top: Dion operating A Cam and myself on B Cam.
Middle left: The gentelman on the left is Key Grip Steve Cardellini, you might have used some of his great clamps.
Right: Blair S. Paulsen checking exposure.
Bottom:Even Dion's filter case is impressive.

Tomorrows the last shoot day, I'll give a final account then.
E.

Evins got a way to remote start & stop....

[Greg M]

I saw that, I was hoping to use an electronic version.

[Greg M]

I found the answer in the Red manual of all places...imagine that.

PG 48- RS-232 connector on camera

[Greg M]

So has anyone used a Preston MDR-2 on the Red?

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

I found the answer in the Red manual of all places...imagine that.

PG 48- RS-232 connector on camera


HI HOW YOU can control through rs232 ?with which unit you can do it ?

[Anders Holck]

Preston makes part #4543. It's a RED remote cable from the 10 pin connector to the MDR2.
Don't know if its VTR start/stop in the 10 pin connector is enabled yet though.

[Greg M]

Preston makes part #4543. It's a RED remote cable from the 10 pin connector to the MDR2.
Don't know if its VTR start/stop in the 10 pin connector is enabled yet though.

Thanks thats exactly what I needed.

[Scott Webster]

We had remote start/stop on this shoot. Custom cable made using the side AUX port for trigger.

[Greg M]

This part is on backorder and is not available...does anyone have one that i can rent?

[Greg M]

We had remote start/stop on this shoot. Custom cable made using the side AUX port for trigger.

can you please email details, it appears the cable I need is on backorder.

[Anders Holck]

Otherwise try and contact Fred Davis at http://www.productioncableservices.com/

I'm sure he can make one for you pretty quick, if you send him the diagram and pinout of the RED connector.

[Greg M]

Otherwise try and contact Fred Davis at http://www.productioncableservices.com/

I'm sure he can make one for you pretty quick, if you send him the diagram and pinout of the RED connector.

thanks again, looks like you solved my problem....i hope!

[Michael Schrengohst]

If you guys find something that works, let us know!!
Thanks

[Greg M]

The cable can be ordered from Preston, its just on backorder for at least a month.
I am having one made for my shoot.

[Greg M]

HELP!!!
we still need a solution here...willing to pay any price to have this solved asap.

[nzben]

Looks like you questions have been answered, can't help you finding anyone to do it, but someone who makes up of cables won't have a problem with it given the correct pin-outs from the camera and MDR. Just a few points in regards to the cable Rocketeer had made:

The MDR 2 has different pin-outs for control than the MDR 1, so make sure you get the right wiring done (Majority of prestons run MDR 2 here)

I believe that the run on the 4 pin connectors on the back of the camera are now activated, but I would recommend getting the cable made to work via the RS323 / AUX port. It is a more expensive connector but very robust & it will free up the other connectors at the back for power out accs.

Also, the RS323 option will be backwards compatible with previous software builds. It would be very frustrating to be forced to downgrade to a previous version of the firmware only to find that the remote run no longer worked.....

[Greg M]

Thanks for the info...yes I am looking for someone who can make the cable for me.

[Nick Gardner]

Hi,

Fred Davis, Vark Audio, Jason Remiekis, PM if you want phone #s

Nick

[Greg M]

Fred Davis dropped the ball, held my order for over a week then said he needs two weeks minimum.

Please pm numbers of the other guys.

[Stuart English]

Build 10 and 11 firmware also support record start / stop using the upper of the two 4 pin LEMO connectors on the camera back.

Provide a trigger pulse by shorting pin 1 (ground) to pin 2 (GPI) momentarily.

An appropriate connector is LEMO FGG.0B.304.CLAD42Z

Connector pin out is in Appendix A of the latest Operations Guide at www.red.com/support

[Greg M]

Build 10 and 11 firmware also support record start / stop using the upper of the two 4 pin LEMO connectors on the camera back.

Provide a trigger pulse by shorting pin 1 (ground) to pin 2 (GPI) momentarily.

An appropriate connector is LEMO FGG.0B.304.CLAD42Z

Connector pin out is in Appendix A of the latest Operations Guide at www.red.com/support


Thanks Stuart
I am having trouble finding someone who has the connectors.

[Brent J. Craig]

Thanks Stuart
I am having trouble finding someone who has the connectors.

It looks like the same connector as the 'mini-monitor' connector on Arri video taps. Correct me if I am wrong, but you may be able to cannibalize one of those cables eaiser than finding an immediate source for the connector.

[Mike Prevette]

Mouser has the parts. Search by the lemo part number listed in the Reduser guide. You have to order the proper collet and strain relief in addition to the plug.


FGG.0B.304.CLAD42Z
style.shellsize.30+number of contacts. CLA= solder . collet diameter= 42 (3.1mm-4.0mm). Z= needs a collet.

PDF link to the catalog page:

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/632/1147.pdf

[Greg M]

I have been searching...I dont see the 42 at Mouser, they have a 35 and 52.

[Mike Prevette]

they do. FGG.0B.742.DN is the part number for the collet. They appear to be in stock for everything you need.

heres the link: http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntt=736-FGG0B742DN%09

so you need (mouser part numbers):

736-FGG0B304CLAZ (plug)
736-FGG0B742DN (collet)
736-GMA0B035DN (bend relief)
OR
736-GMA0B040DN depending on how big your wire is.

[Greg M]

Thanks...ordered.

what is the cable you typically use for these?

[Mike Prevette]

In an emergency? CAT-5 or telephone line! Or carving up a USB cable!

Radio shack has some options.

If I have my choice, I get some Canare. I don't have any part numbers from them. Try to find an electronics shop, and ask them about what small gauge, 4 conductor wire they have in stock. You will need a fine tip soldering iron and a steady hand.

Look at your other cables that are similar size, and try and find a part number for it.

[Jim Bartell]

Remote run/stop cables are available for use with the BarTech Focus Device (BFD) for $110.00 each.

Jim Bartell, Owner
BarTech Engineering

[Anders Holck]

Nice Jim!

[Mike Prevette]

Good to see you on here Jim!

[Jim Bartell]

Good to see you on here Jim!
Glad to be here. I have been contacted by several Red owners regarding purchase of my wireless follow focus with their RED cameras so I thought I'd drop in.

We share the same philosophy: Professional quality equipment shouldn't have to cost a fortune to do the job. It is amazing how much resistance that idea gets.

Jim Bartell, Owner
BarTech Engineering
http://www.bartechengineering.com/

[Greg M]

Thanks Jim,
Looking forward to receiving my units.