View Full Version : New Scarlet footage
Stephen Gentle
05-31-2011, 03:29 AM
The new Recon post - TOUCH RACK FOCUS - EPIC + CANON MOUNT (http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?59300-TOUCH-RACK-FOCUS-EPIC-CANON-MOUNT):
And btw this video was shot with Scarlet :)
Looks awesome!
Stephen
Erwin Vanderhoydonks
05-31-2011, 03:41 AM
RED Scarlet Fixed 8x ? (Not mentioned in the original pot)
Bastien Tribalat
05-31-2011, 03:50 AM
CAUTION : the video is shot with Scarlet 8X Fixed, BUT the (white !) camera we can see on it is an Epic !
I know it is obvious and everyone can notice that but I wanted to make things clear so the thread does not get full of "with a Canon Lens ? That's a working Scarlet Cinema !" or "So it is shipping" or anything else that can take it appart.
That beeing said, we have NO IDEA on what the settings are on the footage. However, the image is pretty clean and the shallow DOF lovers will... Love (sorry) the shot.
The Rack Focus feature will also be included in the Scarlet so it is a very nice feature. To me, it will be more than useful ! (especially when you are a pro (movie editor with 3 years of general cinema/camera classes) that use the gear for personnal projects with friends that are not cinema/TV pros and who have to use the camera for a reason or another...)
Speed can be adjusted, and if we can put a third point (so we assign a button to do rack focus on point 1-2 and another on point 2-3) that will make EPIC/ Scarlet lines of cameras dream tools !
Corrado Silveri
05-31-2011, 03:53 AM
Happy Birthday, Jarred... :-)
Mathias Erichsen
05-31-2011, 04:06 AM
Great feature! :)
I wonder how far the Scarlet was from the Epic in this shot... The DOF is sooo shallow! :)
Simon Zimmer
05-31-2011, 06:09 AM
The Rack Focus feature is awesome!
I am glad I sold my af100. :)
I can't wait for the scarlet.
Simon
Laco Gaal
05-31-2011, 06:51 AM
Hi,
is it really the 8X Fixed version? It looks a lot sharper than the Felix footage.
I'm starting to trust in this 8X zoom:)
Solomon Nero
05-31-2011, 06:58 AM
Is this it!? IS IT!? Thats awesome guys...awesome feature with the rack focus...but im just so excited to see scarlet footage...even if it is showing off a feature on another camera. lol ;)
Alvise Tedesco
05-31-2011, 07:03 AM
Wow wow. Scarlet image looks stunning
I would bet this is on the tele end of the 8x, appearing sharper than Felix
Laco Gaal
05-31-2011, 07:14 AM
Wow wow. Scarlet image looks stunning
I would bet this is on the tele end of the 8x, appearing sharper than Felix
Or maybe they improved lens performance in the last few months, and it will be this sharp in the wide side too:)
Or it is simply the Scarlet Cinema:)
Ameer Azari
05-31-2011, 07:17 AM
FOV wise, it's almost definitely on the telly end.
The EPIC is taking up about a 1/3rd of the FOV in this shot.
Solomon Nero
05-31-2011, 07:38 AM
Or maybe they improved lens performance in the last few months, and it will be this sharp in the wide side too:)
Or it is simply the Scarlet Cinema:)
you mean scarlet 2/3 interchangeable? :P That would be great, thats the one im holding out for :D
Laco Gaal
05-31-2011, 07:44 AM
you mean scarlet 2/3 interchangeable? :P That would be great, thats the one im holding out for :D
Yep, I think the name "Scarlet Cinema" still used for the interchangeable. Anyway I hope you'll get it:)
Franck De Togni
05-31-2011, 07:50 AM
Woooooow this is sooo coool ! Scarlet shots looks amazing !
Solomon Nero
05-31-2011, 07:59 AM
Yep, I think the name "Scarlet Cinema" still used for the interchangeable. Anyway I hope you'll get it:)
if they release it! im getting it! And I apologize, I thought the cinema was now called the epic-s. no worries, either way! Im getting it!
Gabriel Sharp
05-31-2011, 08:13 AM
Oh fuck. Wow.
Lee Saxon
05-31-2011, 08:24 AM
This little clip has significantly improved my faith in Scarlet. Approximately 8 bajillion times better than the last Scarlet clip.
Lee Saxon
05-31-2011, 08:26 AM
if they release it! im getting it! And I apologize, I thought the cinema was now called the epic-s. no worries, either way! Im getting it!
Epic-S replaced the S35 Scarlet.
Stephen Gentle
05-31-2011, 08:49 AM
Or maybe they improved lens performance in the last few months, and it will be this sharp in the wide side too:)
Or it is simply the Scarlet Cinema:)
You were judging a lens based on a single one second clip...?
Laco Gaal
05-31-2011, 09:13 AM
You were judging a lens based on a single one second clip...?
If it's soft in a one second clip, it will be soft in a 30min video too.
Either if it shows the best or the worst performance of a lens, it is still a right thing to know it.
For example, can you tell if a lens is sharp enough using only one single picture?
Stephen Matthews
05-31-2011, 09:32 AM
Yes you can tell those kinds of things if you are the one who shot the picture, and know where the focus was and the other settings and conditions. Condemning a lens because of one soft picture, let alone the third picture ever released from it doesn't seem like a sound idea to me.
Why not just enjoy the short clip we got, and try not to rip it apart (or previous ones*not saying we are just close to*) otherwise we might not get many more like this. Remember these are not image quality tests of the scarlet, but rather a way to show us a new feature that (I believe) both scarlet and epic share. We are still a little way off from scarlet so lets wait until the real scarlet tests are up before we make any assumptions or conclusions about it (or be careful with our hopes and expectations until then because everything is subject to... mah).
Thanks for this I'm really liking the possibilities
Have a good one!
Steve Sherrick
05-31-2011, 09:48 AM
The model is a bit stiff. And she looks kind of plastic. But her rates are probably cheap.
Oh, and yeah the footage looks great, touch screen feature looks very promising.
G Lap
05-31-2011, 10:06 AM
The model is a bit stiff. And she looks kind of plastic. But her rates are probably cheap........
:) :)
Solomon Nero
05-31-2011, 10:07 AM
The model is a bit stiff. And she looks kind of plastic. But her rates are probably cheap.
Haha, I checked into it, she is SAG. :P
Steve Sherrick
05-31-2011, 11:04 AM
Haha, I checked into it, she is SAG. :P
Not too hard to get into SAG these days. :-)
Jarred, on a serious note, can you explain the zones a little bit more? Is there a threshold setting of some sort for identifying a point of focus? For example let's say there is an object in extreme foreground that overlaps with something in mid-foreground.
Stephen Gentle
05-31-2011, 06:20 PM
If it's soft in a one second clip, it will be soft in a 30min video too.
Either if it shows the best or the worst performance of a lens, it is still a right thing to know it.
For example, can you tell if a lens is sharp enough using only one single picture?
I can make a the sharpest lenses look soft with a tiny turn of the focus ring... Perhaps they slightly missed the focus but posted the clip because they liked what was the lion was doing in the shot?
There could be other causes too - maybe they used autofocus and it was an early version of the algorithm. Perhaps the lens motors were a little off... Or the glass could be soft. But I'm reserving my judgement until I see more - because the more examples you see, the less likley that they all missed focus.
Graham Foulkes
06-01-2011, 12:13 PM
super stoked to see scarlet footage , anymore to share ? whatever happend to josephs helicopter flight footage ?
Solomon Nero
06-01-2011, 12:39 PM
super stoked to see scarlet footage , anymore to share ? whatever happend to josephs helicopter flight footage ?
Didn't he say that at that point there was no recording function? it was just a a feed on the viewfinder? I could be wrong but I thought I read that somewhere on the forums.
Laco Gaal
06-01-2011, 02:13 PM
I can make a the sharpest lenses look soft with a tiny turn of the focus ring... Perhaps they slightly missed the focus but posted the clip because they liked what was the lion was doing in the shot?
There could be other causes too - maybe they used autofocus and it was an early version of the algorithm. Perhaps the lens motors were a little off... Or the glass could be soft. But I'm reserving my judgement until I see more - because the more examples you see, the less likley that they all missed focus.
OK, let's say I found the last clip sharper than the Felix clip. That's all I wanted to say...
I know, here on the forum everyone wants to protect RED, but I think RED doesn't need a single word of protection, because of all the things they _already_ put on the table.
Nuka Wølk
06-01-2011, 02:29 PM
here on the forum everyone wants to protect RED, but I think RED doesn't need a single word of protection, because of all the things they _already_ put on the table.
Yea, maybe. You're probably right. But don't think that RED doesn't appreciate the passionate followers of their company ;) http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?59299-Appreciation...
Laco Gaal
06-01-2011, 02:39 PM
Yea, maybe. You're probably right. But don't think that RED doesn't appreciate the passionate followers of their company ;) http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?59299-Appreciation...
Yep, I know, but passionate doesn't equal blind. They are passionate, because everyone clearly see what RED cameras can do (great things), and how much do they cost (cheaper than the competition.actually no competition in the price range...)
So I think it is a good thing to be a bit more realistic, and hey... what I said is actually a good thing:)
Kalani Prince
06-01-2011, 03:38 PM
I wonder if this means Scarlet will be coming out this month..
TomDannenberg
06-02-2011, 04:09 AM
EDITED
Uwe Lansing
06-12-2011, 02:52 AM
I donīt know if this clip has already been posted: http://vimeo.com/24794595. If so, donīt get angry with me. Itīs my first post here...
Jeff Kilgroe
06-12-2011, 09:09 AM
Yeah, it's been posted and discussed at length... Anything that comes out of RED gets posted to these forums first and makes it to Vimeo sometime later.
Uwe Lansing
06-12-2011, 10:40 AM
Ah...Ok, thanks for the info and sorry...
Jeff Kilgroe
06-12-2011, 12:09 PM
Don't worry about it. All good.
Here's the original thread: http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?59527-Scarlet-8x-internal-120FPS-test