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Rainer Fritz
11-21-2007, 08:59 PM
Hi All !

So now the final version of our musicvideo is online:

http://www.redcamservice.eu/redcamservice/herbstrock.html

regards

Rainer

P.S.: Don't forget the pictures.... : http://redcamservice.eu/pics/index.html and http://redcamservice.eu/pics/index1.html

Director: Christoph Strobl
Concept: Christoph Petrik
DoP: Marco Zimprich aac
Producer: Stefan Wolner, Simon Baumgartner, Rainer Fritz
Exec. Prod.: Christian Raberger
Offline Edit: Manes Duerr
Post Production: Golden Girls Filmprod. - Raphael Barth
Steadicam: Robert Eder
1st Ass. Dir.: Christopher Sacken
1st AC: Alex Pueringer
Gaffer: Alex Haspel
DIT: Edwin Verstegen, Rainer Fritz
and many more....

thanks all for this great work at this way...

Greg M
11-21-2007, 09:30 PM
Nice work Ranier!

What monitor do you have in the ATA case?

Larry McKee
11-21-2007, 11:32 PM
Yes, very nice work. But, the audio must be messed up - I can't understand a word she says. :clown2:

Radoslav Karapetkov
11-21-2007, 11:43 PM
Very nice song and video. :)

I Bloom
11-21-2007, 11:45 PM
Rainer,

Dieses Video ist toll.

Wenn Sie hatte die Chance wieder würden Sie wählen, ob Sie Rate Kamera auf 200ASA.

Ich interessiere mich für eine RAW TIFF Datei, wenn Sie verpflichten können.

IBloom

alex_h
11-21-2007, 11:48 PM
Rainer,

Dieses Video ist toll.

Wenn Sie hatte die Chance wieder würden Sie wählen, ob Sie Rate Kamera auf 200ASA.

Ich interessiere mich für eine RAW TIFF Datei, wenn Sie verpflichten können.

IBloom

smells a bit babelfishy... :biggrin:

I Bloom
11-22-2007, 12:28 AM
smells a bit babelfishy... :biggrin:

Four years in der Gymnasium mein freund.

Sanjin Jukic
11-22-2007, 01:36 AM
Rainer,

a nice RED test video.:clown2:

Rainer Fritz
11-22-2007, 04:54 AM
yes you are right, their english is not the best in the video, but we are working on it. :)
@digitalfx: we graded with a class A 2k monitor...
@ibloom: four years gymnasium did a good job... :) at the low light shots we rated at 200 ASA and the EXT at 320 ASA. I will send you a ftp account.

thx for the comments...

regards
rainer

Emmanuel Cambier
11-22-2007, 05:19 AM
Hi Rainer

Congrats on the shooting.

But I am a bit disapointed by the compression for the web, a lot of cliped highlights on the skins, that makes it look like shot on a bad HD cam, could you consider reencoding your stuff.

Thanks

Emmanuel

Jim Arthurs
11-22-2007, 05:47 AM
I second Emmanuels request... I've been using the rough cut of this video as the first footage I share with people when talking about the RED.

It would be wonderful to have one that has a higher bit-rate encoding, equal to the rough cut.

Regards,

BASSAM MSSALATIE
11-22-2007, 05:50 AM
Hi All !

So now the final version of our musicvideo is online:

http://www.redcamservice.eu/redcamservice/herbstrock.html

regards

Rainer

P.S.: Don't forget the pictures.... : http://redcamservice.eu/pics/index.html and http://redcamservice.eu/pics/index1.html

VERY NICE work .. did you spent too much time in editing and codec issues we have been hearing too much disscusions about workflow and it's:sad: challenges

virtual-one
11-22-2007, 06:29 AM
looks very good!
thank you

Friedrich Moser
11-22-2007, 08:18 AM
Geiles Ding! Love your framing! Dolly or steadicam? Both? Which optics, esp. on the wide-angle shot beneath the autobahn?

LG Friedrich

Daniel Reichenbach
11-22-2007, 03:00 PM
The song is boring, but the pictures looks just great, fantastic, promising,

Peter McCully
11-22-2007, 03:27 PM
"Nice video....shame about the song".....
I am about to embark on a Red shot video myself, so I had better not be too harsh.
I am realising there is a "look" to Red footage that is immediately apparent. It is not a bad thing that it has a distinctive feel to it but it does have a character of it's own just as filmstocks do. The beauty is, it can be manipulated and fruited up in post but deep down it's Red.

Rainer Fritz
11-22-2007, 04:00 PM
Hey Guys !

Thanks at all...

Yes the highlights can be a little reduced in the front shots. We looked at the grading to a class A monitor and color said that it is under 95%. But looks a little bit too high for the lcds.
To have a specific red look is not bad. And as you said, you can adjust it like your needs. To soften the sharp picture for example is no problem if it is needed....
We used a Panther Dolly, Cine Jib Crane, Steadicam... was great to have so much very nice toys on the set, and in the front the red cam.

regards
rainer

Peter McCully
11-22-2007, 05:29 PM
Totally agree the Red look (that it has a "look") is not bad. I like it. I commented on the images for "Red Dirt Rising", how the period look was really enhanced by the smooth silky Red imagery. It's not just a neutral, impartial recording medium but an emotional, textural one that paints with light.

I Bloom
11-22-2007, 06:36 PM
"Nice video....shame about the song".....
I am about to embark on a Red shot video myself, so I had better not be too harsh.
I am realising there is a "look" to Red footage that is immediately apparent. It is not a bad thing that it has a distinctive feel to it but it does have a character of it's own just as filmstocks do. The beauty is, it can be manipulated and fruited up in post but deep down it's Red.

I think that is in part because everyone leaves it clean in post... because well this is the first time we've been able to shoot it so clean. Especially for a web stream its phenomenal. But I bet we could make a pepsi challenge between film and processed Red that would be hard to beat.

IBloom

Finner
11-22-2007, 11:21 PM
But I bet we could make a pepsi challenge between film and processed Red that would be hard to beat.

IBloom

For SD TV broadcast you can already do that with a good HD camera and good lighting skills. The real test will come with an HD finish or better yet the big screen. At least red has the best chance of claiming that prize right now.

Rainer Fritz
11-23-2007, 02:53 AM
For SD TV broadcast you can already do that with a good HD camera and good lighting skills. The real test will come with an HD finish or better yet the big screen. At least red has the best chance of claiming that prize right now.

So my experience is, that all is looking better with red :)
The PAL Mpeg2 encoding looks a lot sharper, more contrast and color depth than with all other digital cameras i worked with. So it is like every time, the base material is the clou. When you have an excellent base material, all will look better. I encoded from the uncompressed 2k master a PAL DVD and I couldn't believe it, looks amazing. Same with the PAL Digibeta Master we played out... absolutely great. So in a few days the 35mm filmout will be here and then we will look to the big screen....

regards
rainer

Sanjin Jukic
11-23-2007, 03:05 AM
Rainer you rock!

Paolo Tinari
11-23-2007, 03:08 AM
Good job rainer. Which lens did you use for the shallow dof shots? Must come to visit you in Vienna before my pig arrives...

Larry McKee
11-23-2007, 07:37 AM
Dagnabit, Rainer. Now I have that tune stuck in my head.

Rainer Fritz
11-23-2007, 10:53 AM
Good job rainer. Which lens did you use for the shallow dof shots? Must come to visit you in Vienna before my pig arrives...

You are welcome in Vienna... would be a plassure for me...
We had Zeiss HS Primes....

Rainer Fritz
11-23-2007, 10:53 AM
Dagnabit, Rainer. Now I have that tune stuck in my head.

so that is a good sign.... :)

I Bloom
11-23-2007, 06:09 PM
For SD TV broadcast you can already do that with a good HD camera and good lighting skills. The real test will come with an HD finish or better yet the big screen. At least red has the best chance of claiming that prize right now.

Yes I think it already claimed the prize thanks to Offhollywood. See my over-the-top post earlier.


Must come to visit you in Vienna before my pig arrives...

Pigs take a lot of maintanence and a lot of love. You won't have much time for Red camera stuff, with a pig around too. It's worth it though. I speak from experience.

IBloom