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chuck colburn
11-26-2007, 02:07 PM
This is about as far from RED as it gets, but you probally won't see one like this again and it just warms my heart. lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250176560135&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=260185550777&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

Mike Prevette
11-26-2007, 03:07 PM
I LOOOVED THAT CAMERA!@!@! I had the same kit for years. That thing is amazing. I saw a guy a few years ago selling S16 versions of it with red anodized internals. I look for eyemo's every week just so I can relive the fun i had with a Filmo.

P.S. I have a large surplus of the viewfinder objectives for this camera. I have some of the rare ones, and some of the not so rare. if anyone ever needs a viewfinder objective for a lens they have let me know.

Mike Prevette
11-26-2007, 03:12 PM
Wow same guy is selling a 70mm Photosonics cam!! never seen one of these before. It probably glows in the dark though, and has a mushroom cloud burned into the pressure plate.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Photosonics-10B-Hi-Speed-70mm-Camera-System-L-K_W0QQitemZ250184654386QQihZ015QQcategoryZ4691QQss PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

chuck colburn
11-26-2007, 03:21 PM
Yeah Mike those v/f objectives are getting rarer nowadays. I loved the Eyemos too. Use to take the springs out (DO NOT try this at home kids) and mount cheap surplus 12 volt motors in them for crash cameras. Put a couple of Nikon mounts on them also. Nothing warms the heart of a camera tech as seeing a stunt camera hit by a train or whatever. lol You could buy them by the crate for twenty to thirty bucks apiece.

Sanjin Jukic
11-26-2007, 03:22 PM
Way Off Topic!

Today the rules are different or the same!?

Everything changed, even Chuck!!!???

Mike Prevette
11-26-2007, 03:28 PM
Hey Chuck I'm currently hunting for an eyemo to put a Leica M, or Nikon mount on. Hopefully I can get one with the 1:1 drive shaft to mount my own motor on. You wouldn't happen to know a guy who would do that kind of stuff do ya? ;) wink nudge nudge.

It does look pretty strait forward. Especially if I get the spydr front one on ebay.

Greg M
11-26-2007, 03:33 PM
Sweet...my dad bought me one of these when I was a kid, made my first film with it. They also come in handy during an emergency as a hammer. These things are solid.

I'll have to buy one for my collection since they are factory sealed.

Greg M
11-26-2007, 03:34 PM
Hey Chuck I'm currently hunting for an eyemo to put a Leica M, or Nikon mount on. Hopefully I can get one with the 1:1 drive shaft to mount my own motor on. You wouldn't happen to know a guy who would do that kind of stuff do ya? ;) wink nudge nudge.

It does look pretty strait forward. Especially if I get the spydr front one on ebay.


Call they guy that has the Ebay listing, they have been around for quite a while and have a good inventory of vintage stuff.

Mike Prevette
11-26-2007, 03:39 PM
I heard a great tale from old news cinematographers always taking Filmo's to riots because they used to have a handle that looked like a billyclub, and you could swing the thing like a 5 pound sledge if someone got in your way.

chuck colburn
11-26-2007, 03:39 PM
Hey Chuck I'm currently hunting for an eyemo to put a Leica M, or Nikon mount on. Hopefully I can get one with the 1:1 drive shaft to mount my own motor on. You wouldn't happen to know a guy who would do that kind of stuff do ya? ;) wink nudge nudge.

It does look pretty strait forward. Especially if I get the spydr front one on ebay.

Hey Mike,

Actually it's easier to do a mount conversion on the single hole types as you could use the basic front end to attach the new mount on to. So far as anyone to do the job I don't know. Seems like there are fewer independent repair guys around nowadays. You might try Alan Gordon Enterprises in Hollywood. They use to have a decent machine shop. If they are like they use to be it won't be cheap though.

chuck colburn
11-26-2007, 03:46 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/35mm-Spider-Eyemo-camera-w-3-lenses-hardly-ever-used_W0QQitemZ330193063943QQihZ014QQcategoryZ4691Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mike Prevette
11-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Oh I'm watching that one.

I've seen some nice conversions on the spyder. One mount in Arri standard, one in PL, and a Nikon all on the same camera. I've also seen some bitchen Nikon, full reflex conversions. Allan Gordon did some, and a guy in Vancouver did some nice ones as well.

chuck colburn
11-26-2007, 04:05 PM
WOW!
Three different mounts on one camera. Somebody had a lot of time and /or money.

Paris Remillard
11-26-2007, 04:58 PM
That's it, I want a multi-mount turret for my RED.

Mike Prevette
11-26-2007, 05:24 PM
OMG I Just realized the RED is the Eclair Cameflex Digital!!!

It could shoot 16/35/s35 (4k+2k) Had a lens turret with three mounts on it. Sometimes all three were different mounts.

from here: http://www.cinematographers.nl/CAMERAS1.htm

"In 1947, Éclair introduced the 35mm Caméflex [or Camérette]. The Caméflex was a reflex camera allowing through-the-lens viewing. It could film in 35mm or 16mm with little more than a change of the film magazine and the film aperture plate. The camera came in two parts. The body contained the mechanism and the lens turret. The magazines, containing either 35mm or 16mm film, were pre-loaded and could be changed in 2 seconds while the camera motor was still running, since the film loops and the back pressure-plate of the film gate were included in the magazine. The camera could, of course, be tripod mounted and it could be hand-held with the magazine being balanced on the shoulder."

chuck colburn
11-26-2007, 05:50 PM
OMG I Just realized the RED is the Eclair Cameflex Digital!!!

Ahahahah!!!!

Plus you won't have to work on it.
They are a royal pain in the butt, as are any of the Eclair cameras.

Mike Prevette
11-26-2007, 06:10 PM
Tell me about it. I had to do a project on a ACL 1, fucking hell that thing sucked. At least the NPR was ugly so no one touched it.

Greg M
11-26-2007, 06:12 PM
No...Red is the modern Akeley Pancake.

About 1914, Carl Akeley, a naturalist, author, artist and inventor, decided to create his own 35mm field camera. He often traveled to exotic, tropical locales to shoot film, usually of wild animals, but found that the early wooden cameras simply would not hold up in the heat and humidity. He decided to create a rugged, metal camera that would withstand the rigors of the real world.

The result was what has come to be called the "Pancake Akeley," taking its name from the round shape of its body. Everything about this new camera was novel, if not revolutionary. A cloth shutter rotated around the body, in a slot between the interior and exterior shells. Akeley used lenses mounted in pairs one for taking, one for viewing. Lenses in the shorter focal lengths were gear coupled, so that the operator could do a "rack focus" through the viewing lens and get identical results on the taking lens. The range of focal lengths went up to an astonishing 385mm. The camera used 200 foot, quick change magazines, designed in a shape still familiar today. To overcome the jerkiness of the "friction" heads used in the early days, Akeley designed a geared head that worked on the principle of a gyro. It dampened the jerks, and made smooth shots in the field possible.

Sound like a familiar story?