Offhollywood starts 2nd "all RED" feature -

[Mark L. Pederson]

First day today of the second 100% RED feature that Offhollywood is providing cameras, support and post -

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Undead

Directed by Jordan Galland

Director of Photography Christopher LaVasseur (keep your eye on this guy - he's AWESOME)

a few quick snaps of my all-time favorite AC - Megan Nole showing off her new CF Pelican case - more pics and details soon -

[Finner]

Hi Mark

I see an EVF and what looks like a marshall working in your picture.

Details on the EVF please. The EVF is what I want and would love some information on it.

Are both the EVF and marshall working simultaneously?

[Stuart English]

Yes, Mark is testing some new camera firmware for us Finner. This firmware supports RED-EVF plus 1280 x 720p PREVIEW HD video (complete with frame guides) at the same time. So you could have - RED-EVF plus four 1280 x 720p outputs - three via HD-SDI plus the HDMI

[Sanjin Jukic]

AC - Megan Nole>>she looks amazing and promising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mark L. Pederson]

AC - Megan Nole>>she looks amazing and promising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Careful - her boyfriend is up-and-coming actor - Octavio Gómez - (just happens to be in Guerrilla)

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0351218/

[SF Geek]

That first photo is good as far as camera, but it's definately not Megan's best photo.

[Mark L. Pederson]

That first photo is good as far as camera, but it's definately not Megan's best photo.

I'll get some good behind the scenes pics asap - today was closed set - nothing like nudity on shoot day 1!

[Sanjin Jukic]

Octavio Gómez you said.

OK.

Also I supposed to be a biggest Latino Macho Mucho Man after Fidel and Ernesto.

Octavio Gómez amigo I have to think about again what I would do...

[Babu Kantamneni]

Yes, Mark is testing some new camera firmware for us Finner. This firmware supports RED-EVF plus 1280 x 720p PREVIEW HD video (complete with frame guides) at the same time. So you could have - RED-EVF plus four 1280 x 720p outputs - three via HD-SDI plus the HDMI

Great!

[Scott Webster]

Yes, Mark is testing some new camera firmware for us Finner. This firmware supports RED-EVF plus 1280 x 720p PREVIEW HD video (complete with frame guides) at the same time. So you could have - RED-EVF plus four 1280 x 720p outputs - three via HD-SDI plus the HDMI

Please Beta release!:waaa:

[Greg M]

Mark,
I can see why she is your favorite AC...but aren't you a married man??

[Greg M]

Yes, Mark is testing some new camera firmware for us Finner. This firmware supports RED-EVF plus 1280 x 720p PREVIEW HD video (complete with frame guides) at the same time. So you could have - RED-EVF plus four 1280 x 720p outputs - three via HD-SDI plus the HDMI

Stuart,
This is Great news!!!

btw- would this also allow LCD + three HD-SDI + HDMI?

P.S.
...did I mention that we are awesome beta testers?

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

Megan she is the Actor .. no others ..:sick:

[I Bloom]

I'll get some good behind the scenes pics asap - today was closed set - nothing like nudity on shoot day 1!

This thread makes me sad, for exactly three reasons.

Good luck Mark, excited to see some more footage.

Ian

[Mark L. Pederson]

This thread makes me sad, for exactly three reasons.

Good luck Mark, excited to see some more footage.

Ian

Ian -
I am sure we'll work together at some point -
just to rub it in ...
this is the best indie crew I have seen in a LONG time -

[I Bloom]

Ian -
I am sure we'll work together at some point -
just to rub it in ...
this is the best indie crew I have seen in a LONG time -

Sigh. I have to dig deep into the smileys now.
:sick: +:sheep: + :pirate:+:shifty:

[Shawn Nelson]

Nice! Kicking ass Mark! Keep up the Red charge.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Shoot Day 3

pics 3 and 4 are gaffer Rich Ulivella - this is the 7th feature film Rich has gaffed in 2007 -

[Emmanuel Cambier]

Hey Mark
What viewfinder is being used on the camera?

Emmanuel

[Mark L. Pederson]

Hey Mark
What viewfinder is being used on the camera?

Emmanuel

RED EVF + Panasonic on-board + 14" HD CRT set monitor

[Rick Darge]

How do you like the EVF Mark?

[Mark L. Pederson]

How do you like the EVF Mark?

simply awesome. actually, can't imagine working without it now. Having more "hot buttons" to toggle meters is really great -

It needs a different mounting solution then the arm - we suspect Red will offer another mount - if not, we'll have something designed and made -

[Geoff Bailey]

Was that you last night on Crosby St.? Thought I spied a RED on the sticks.

[jbeale]

It needs a different mounting solution then the arm - we suspect Red will offer another mount - if not, we'll have something designed and made -

Curious about what's wrong with the arm? I haven't seen it in person but from the photos, it looked like it provides more placement options than usual for viewfinders.

[Craig Bowman]

Simultaneous outputs are a logical feature. Glad to see this undergoing testing. Offhollywood, you guys really rock with the trail you're blazing for the rest of us. Thanks for taking the time to share.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Was that you last night on Crosby St.? Thought I spied a RED on the sticks.

YES! Shooting in the BRONX today (but I am in my office on 19th street):sarcasm:

[SF Geek]

Curious about what's wrong with the arm? I haven't seen it in person but from the photos, it looked like it provides more placement options than usual for viewfinders.

Just speculation, but if the arm always has to be locked, then you'd have to unlock it and lock it when you make any small adjustment. If that's the case it's more of a hassle to tilt the viewfinder up or down, which I find I need to do a lot of in a days shooting.

[Mark L. Pederson]

pics tomorrow - they are doing great - LOVE the DP and camera dept.

[ChrisLyon]

My DP friend put it best when I sent these photos:

"That's hott."

[Mark L. Pederson]

Central Park today day 10 of 20 - a few snaps -

[chuck colburn]

My what a big head you have. Which one is that?

[Mark L. Pederson]

My what a big head you have. Which one is that?
it's a 2575 - my favorite

[liquidigital]

Good for you Mark! Keep 'em coming.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Good for you Mark! Keep 'em coming.

Third feature starts in Jan - trying to keep up with Soderbergh!

[ChrisLyon]

My what a big head you have. Which one is that?
Haha. I thought he was talking about an actual head- like a noggin. I thought he was saying the head looked big because of the beanie.

Oh me.

Looks awesome guys.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Haha. I thought he was talking about an actual head- like a noggin. I thought he was saying the head looked big because of the beanie.

Oh me.

Looks awesome guys.
chuck does have a healthy sense of humor!!

[Tony Lorentzen]

Who's the guy that looks like Jamiroquai? Is that you Mark?

[Adrian T.]

Who's the guy that looks like Jamiroquai? Is that you Mark?

I thought he's the one with the big head. :wink:

[Mark L. Pederson]

Who's the guy that looks like Jamiroquai? Is that you Mark?

That's the DP Chris - I'm taking the pictures

[C.H.Haskell]

I want to come out and play! Mark let me know if I can give a hand...please? :)

I am in the neighborhood...best!

[Mark L. Pederson]

day 14 of 21 - some frame grabs tomorrow - this movie looks like it cost ten times the budget - 1st pic is a grip who gets MORE than $100 a day!

[Álex Montoya]

1st pic is a grip who gets MORE than $100 a day!


OMG! Are you MAD? lol

[Mark L. Pederson]

some frame grabs - with quick reference color grades done on set by gaffer in photoshop -

[ChrisLyon]

Cool stuff. Thanks for sharing!

The one I like least is the Romeo and Juliet shot of the girl on the table. It feels a little like video to me, rather than film. Everything else is great.

[Sanjin Jukic]

All amazing!

[Mark L. Pederson]

Cool stuff. Thanks for sharing!

The one I like least is the Romeo and Juliet shot of the girl on the table. It feels a little like video to me, rather than film. Everything else is great.

it is a "play within a play within a movie"

[Mike Prevette]

Mark,

Whats up with the monstrosity baseplate situation under the optimo?
It looks like you have a red 19mm base with a Arri sliding base and ET dovetail under that. Any reason for keeping the red base in there?

also EVF review? after a couple weeks on set how it holding up?

[ChrisLyon]

it is a "play within a play within a movie"

i see

[Greg M]

1st pic is a grip who gets MORE than $100 a day!

I wouldnt pay him more than $100, thats just retarded

[Greg M]

Mark,

Whats up with the monstrosity baseplate situation under the optimo?
It looks like you have a red 19mm base with a Arri sliding base and ET dovetail under that. Any reason for keeping the red base in there?



You have to have the longer plate to balance the Optimo, the plate usually comes with the lens. The plate is the older style that wont mate directly to the newer OConnor heads....so he has the OConnor QR plate under it.

[Poi Boy]

EVF I must have EVF !
-A

[Mike Prevette]

Thats all standard fare Greg, I was just wondering why he had the RED base + an Arri base + then the dovetail. Why not just skip the stupid Red base, and go strait onto the Arri one.

I'm guessing the Arri base was the only one available and it was 15mm, and they wanted 19mm AKS and support for the Optimo.

And who needs the fancy pants arri/oconner dovetale anyway! ;)


You have to have the longer plate to balance the Optimo, the plate usually comes with the lens. The plate is the older style that wont mate directly to the newer OConnor heads....so he has the OConnor QR plate under it.

[Greg M]

sorry, I didnt notice that he had the Red base...you are correct sir. Maybe he let the $100 grip rig the camera.
(I knew Mark was retarded) :)

btw- once you go "fancy pants" arri/oconnor dovetail, you never go back. (besides you lose almost an inch with it)

[Brook Willard]

You have to have the longer plate to balance the Optimo, the plate usually comes with the lens.

Not true... I had the 24-290 working on a 12" dovetail today. All it takes is beefier rods. The 12:1s that TCH has are supplied with thicker-walled rods to negate the need for a longer dovetail.

Generally I'll use the head's QR with a 12" dovetail set to shift the camera farther back than usual to compensate for the hubble up front. Switching back to primes can be as simple as pulling the lens, rods and lens support or as complicated as removing the camera from the dovetail and flipping it 180˚ on the QRP to bring the CG back to a convenient prime lens location.

Those little Pelican CF cases rock, btw. If anybody in the LA area needs some, Film Tools now carries them. I ordered so many for the Red Ninjas that they just decided to stock them from now on. :)

[Mike Prevette]

but could you get it balanced? Thats what the longer dovetail makes easier. Of course you could hang the batt+drive cage way back to get some offset.

[Brook Willard]

I keep the drive cradle in its usual position: either on the back at a 45˚ angle like a magazine or on the camera body's right side to offset the weight of an onboard HD-SDI monitor. We're not cool enough to have EVFs yet. :)

The camera balances perfectly with the short dovetail on the 2575's QR. I don't think I have any pictures of the way I usually set it up, but I may sketch something to explain it a little better.

Mark, how are you powering your microforce?

[Mark L. Pederson]

Mark, how are you powering your microforce?

It is tapped off of the monitor.

[Charles Perkins]

Mark, how are you still in production with the writers strike still going on?

[Mark L. Pederson]

Mark, how are you still in production with the writers strike still going on?

written by non-WGA writers - very common on indies -

And, for the record, you can shoot during the writers strike with a WGA script if you purchased it before the strike - you just can't have any re-writes done while shooting -

[Brook Willard]

It is tapped off of the monitor.

Ah, forgot to look for the D-tap there.

So, will you send me your EVF? :whistling:

[Mark L. Pederson]

So, will you send me your EVF? :whistling:

you would have to TRY to pry it from my cold, dead hands ....

[ChrisLyon]

very well... :devil:

Brook, you can borrow my prototype Red Heat cover to warm his hand... :)

And my pipe wrench...

[Mark L. Pederson]

very well... :devil:

Brook, you can borrow my prototype Red Heat cover to warm his hand... :)

And my pipe wrench...

I wish you guys the best of luck with that - you might want to bring some extra Ninja's along ...

[ChrisLyon]

:matrix: - Brook
:shiftyph34r: - Me
:red_bandana: - Macgregor
:ninja: - Crazy last minute recruit guy from Panic Room

[Rob Lohman]

I'm betting Mark has his own special forces team to protect himself and his family (the reds)

[Mark L. Pederson]

I'm betting Mark has his own special forces team to protect himself and his family (the reds)

The Red Mafia.

[Carl-August Savgård]

Mark, You also have the swedish red vikings that got you and Mr. Bonds back.

http://hawkeye.digital-elephant.com/VikingRed.jpg

[Mark L. Pederson]

Mark, You also have the swedish red vikings that got you and Mr. Bonds back.

http://hawkeye.digital-elephant.com/VikingRed.jpg

LOL!!!

Do you have any "behind the scenes pics" from Mr. Bond playing with the Swedes in Italy??

[Carl-August Savgård]

It will come... under NDA for another couple of weeks... it will come.

[Mark L. Pederson]

shoot day 20 of 21 - some frame grabs with cast members John Ventimiglia, Devon Aoki and Bijou Philips and Kris Lemche -

[SF Geek]

Does Red not have an RS out or some kind of 12 volt output?

[Emmanuel Cambier]

Thank you Mark.

As usual this is top notch stuff, you really are spoiling us, and it is nice to be reminded that even the early models of RedOnes can achieve perfect, low noise, no clipping and ultra sharp images.

Emmanuel

[Álex Montoya]

Nice stuff, Mark.

[Stephen Williams]

Thank you Mark.

As usual this is top notch stuff, you really are spoiling us, and it is nice to be reminded that even the early models of RedOnes can achieve perfect, low noise, no clipping and ultra sharp images.

Emmanuel

Hi Emmanuel,

2 of the pictures display fairly obvious clipping.

Stephen

[Mark L. Pederson]

Hi Emmanuel,

2 of the pictures display fairly obvious clipping.

Stephen

these are down-and-dirty "on set" grade references done by the gaffer & DP from 4K tiffs - the clipping you see is intentional - we have pulled lots of their stuff into our Scratch suite and the dynamic range in the stuff these guys are shooting is amazing -

I can't tell you what the budget of the films is, as it's the producers job to represent it HIGHER than reality until the film sells to a distributor - but it is LOW and I will say this - I have been working in the world of independent features for 20 years - and I have never seen a film with TWICE this budget look this good. Period. Shooting this film on the Red had added SIGNIFICANT production value to the film.

I am very sad to retire Elvis and Mr. Bond tonight. But they did have a great ride.

[Sanjin Jukic]

Thanks Mark for a clearing that up.

Great shots and the best wishes to the project.

Also we would need here at the forum more material like this that shows RED's dynamic range in "a good light".

[Mark L. Pederson]

Nice stuff, Mark.

Thanks Concrete. Got to tell you - Bijou Philips is REALLY cute in person ... really fun, talented cast on this project.
Lead role in the film is Jake Hoffman http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0388933/ - he is Dustin Hoffman's son.
Devon Aoki from Sin City/Fast and Furious 2 - http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1226817/ is also not hard on the eyes (or the sensor!)

Sean Lennon is creating the original soundtrack.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Also we would need here at the forum more material like this that shows RED's dynamic range in "a good light".

Thing is ... "a good light" is VERY subjective. DP's clip highlights intentionally on film all the time, etc.

We find the most impressive thing to show people is the REDCODE RAW file with no correction - then "swing" the image around in Scratch so they can see just how much room they have.

Maybe we'll make a split screen "dynamic range demonstration" in H264 after the holidays.

The crowd on REDUSER is pretty damn critical, and it always takes me some effort to get people to agree to releasing images on the web - we do our best to share what we are up to and post stuff -

At the end of day - a BUNCH more people will be shooting and posting images very soon - I will actually feel a little less pressure - that being said, I love to share this stuff -

[Sanjin Jukic]

Thanks Mark.

Looking forward soon to see more good stuff from OffHollywood Studios production.

[Rudi Herbert]

Mark,

This is definitely good looking stuff, and if the clipping referred to is the one with the winged muse or whatever, then I can't see any other way to have shot that but to get those whites blown out. I am one of those critical people on the forum, if only because I have decided to go with RED all the way and want/need it to be the best it can be, but seeing images like this does truly make me feel better. It is important for people like you to post, amid the sea of footage out there, because your work is consistently among the best and needed to keep tipping the scales upwards in RED's favor.

Looking forward to some split screen comparisons,

[Sanjin Jukic]

I just saw ATONEMENT (awesome movie) in a theater and then read about shooting the film in AC issue December 2007 article "Irretrievable Deeds" by Jon D. Witmer (page 32).

Interesting and could be somehow related with "clipped highlights" discussion here.

Cinematographer Seamus McGarvey, BSC used Christian Dior black stocking to emphasize the heat light.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/dior-stocking-filter.jpg

http://www.ascmag.com/magazine_dynamic/December2007/Atonement/images/ac1207_Atone_03.jpg


American Cinematographer Online edition (pages 34-35)>>> (http://www.ascmag.com/magazine_dynamic/December2007/Atonement/page1.php)

It could be interesting if somebody try to put Christian Dior stocking on the lens with RED and to see what is the effect.

[I Bloom]

Congrats Mark,

Stuff looks great. In particular I keep hearing really amazing things about your gaffer all over the city.

Ian

[Mark L. Pederson]

In particular I keep hearing really amazing things about your gaffer all over the city.

Ian

he built a dimmer board he controls wireless with a pda - he is amazing

[Mark L. Pederson]

T
Great shots and the best wishes to the project.

Megan our AC says hello -

[Jaime Vallés]

Hey, just curious... This is the Connolly Theatre in the East Village, right? I recognize the intricate proscenium detailing, since I once had to do an elaborate paint job of the whole thing for a musical I was helping to produce there... Not fun, but it ended up looking great.

The stills look fantastic, by the way. And I wish more AC's looked like yours... :biggrin:

[Sanjin Jukic]

Megan our AC says hello -

Hello to beautiful Megan from Vienna.

Photos attached:

1. Sphinx from the Belvedere Garden Vienna (shot with Canon 30D + Leica Summicrom R 50 mm f2, Exposure f/5.6, ISO 100, shutter speed 1/125 sec).

2. Waitresses from the Schikaneder Kino, Klub, Bar, Wien (http://www.schikaneder.at/) (shot with Nikon D50 + Carl Zeiss Planar T* ZF 50mm f/1.4 in wide open at exposure: aperture f/1.4, ISO 200, shutter speed 1/6 sec, no flash, handheld).

Both lenses waiting for a test with RED ONE sometimes in Jan/Feb 2008.

3. My CC à la Kodak print 2383 (express done in Shake4) of "Angel" shot from the Offhollywood project.

[Stephen Williams]

[QUOTE=offhollywood;124201]these are down-and-dirty "on set" grade references done by the gaffer & DP from 4K tiffs - the clipping you see is intentional - we have pulled lots of their stuff into our Scratch suite and the dynamic range in the stuff these guys are shooting is amazing -
/QUOTE]

Hi Mark,

I don't find the clipping objectionable, I was just pointing out to Emmanuel that it was clipped.

Stephen

[dvpixl]

Solid lighting. Looks like 30 million bucks.

[Álex Montoya]

I gotta say your AC is very cute.

[jaadgy akanni]

Megan takes my breath away. Stop posting her image or my head will explode. Times sure have changed..remember when you weren't allowed to be hot and skilled at the same time?

[Emmanuel Cambier]

[QUOTE=offhollywood;124201]these are down-and-dirty "on set" grade references done by the gaffer & DP from 4K tiffs - the clipping you see is intentional - we have pulled lots of their stuff into our Scratch suite and the dynamic range in the stuff these guys are shooting is amazing -
/QUOTE]

Hi Mark,

I don't find the clipping objectionable, I was just pointing out to Emmanuel that it was clipped.

Stephen

Thank you stephen
Actually I do fancy calling clipped what is a total loss of details at capture time, while I call blown Highlights what can be an intentional pushing "towards" pure white, wich is best left to post in most case.
I should have been more precise from the top, my bad, I hope I've put a good light on my fancy now.

Emmanuel

[Mark L. Pederson]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i1afdf3970176b315bd06f8aaab3335de

[Visceral_IvaN]

Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Undead

Zombies meet Shakespeare.

This movie sounds like THREE kinds of AWESOME, possibly FOUR.

Keep us updated on it, and try not to get TOO MUCh fake blood or misc redundant goo on good ol REDdy there :)

[Mark L. Pederson]

Trailer on-line here -


http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=5119

[Sanjin Jukic]

Not bad but as I mentioned here ago that I prefer and like more

New York's eighties or Gordon Willis's "the prince of darkness"

lighting aesthetic that has a "real life" movie color/light contrast.

It's more dramatic (Rosencrantz and Guildenstern!) than an ordinary flat

and clean video image.