New build up on RED...

[Jannard]

Lots of new toys to play with... a Beta Build.

Jim

[Greg M]

Lots of new toys to play with... a Beta Build.

Jim


Excellent...Thanks Jim!!

[Greg M]

"Support for RED-EVF plus Preview HD-SDI / HDMI output simultaneously active."

does this mean we may get our EVF's soon?

[Justin O'Neill]

YES! Simultaneous outputs. Christmas is here.

[noclip]

4K 16:9, neat. Anybody willing to post some TIFFs?

[Greg M]

4K 16:9, neat. Anybody want to post some TIFFs?

That has been available...but the QT reference movies crash.

[Greg M]

YES! Simultaneous outputs. Christmas is here.


only with the EVF though.

[Shawn Nelson]

only with the EVF though.

Digital, did you ever get your EVF? Mine is still backordered.

[Greg M]

no, still waiting...thats why I'm bummed about the multiple outputs. Wont work w/ LCD. My eyes are too old for the LCD, I really need the EVF to focus

[Rick Darge]

Can anyone confirm the new faster boot-up times?

[I Bloom]

Lots of new toys to play with... a Beta Build.

Jim

Out of curiousity. What does GPI stand for, is it General Purpose Interface? Does that mean the USB Slave? Does that mean you need an external intervalometer?...Am I getting ahead of myself. What is the longest exposure time available?

Side note, anybody who wants me to babysit their camera for a timelapse shot. I'll bring the beach chair.

Ian

[dudeman]

Lots of new toys to play with... a Beta Build.

Jim

I would not be offended at all if you showed us pictures... I am sure the other red users would agree.

[Greg M]

if you include the beer, your on

[I Bloom]

if you include the beer, your on
You drive a hard bargain digitalfx.

[Greg M]

You drive a hard bargain digitalfx.

of course thats a long ass drive to babysit my kids for me while I shoot timelapse and drink your beer.

[I Bloom]

of course thats a long ass drive to babysit my kids for me while I shoot timelapse and drink your beer.
I see how it is. "I have the Red camera, I make the rules." Enjoy these days while they last ;)

[Mark L. Pederson]

Can anyone confirm the new faster boot-up times?

Did not time it exactly - but much faster - under a minute for sure.

[Greg M]

I see how it is. "I have the Red camera, I make the rules." Enjoy these days while they last ;)


Ian, your welcome to babysit my camera anytime your down my way.

[Rick Darge]

Did not time it exactly - but much faster - under a minute for sure.

Great news. Thanks Mark.

[I Bloom]

Ian, your welcome to babysit my camera anytime your down my way.May have gig down there in Jan. so I'll try to stop by. Meanwhile this is an important thread we have hijacked.

[Greg M]

I always was a pirate.

>>Increased data rate for 2K record resolutions<<

does this mean we have a higher quality 2k recording?

[Brook Willard]

Shot with this build [or something similar] all day today.

It was solid for me, but we only shot 3 rolls.

Boot times have definitely improved. I don't have a RED here with me now, but I'll do before/after time tests if somebody doesn't beat me to it.

One cool feature: if you push the button on the LCD, it blows the image up to full screen and kills all the text. It's a nice little "operator's mode" - and it finally uses the whole LCD! That said, switching outputs quickly was nice before...

Glad to see that EVFs and SDI can run simultaneous now, but I still can't wait for the LCD. I'm guessing the scaling for the LCD [1024x600] is what's holding that back?

[Oliver Skibbe]

Out of curiousity. What does GPI stand for, is it General Purpose Interface? Does that mean the USB Slave? Does that mean you need an external intervalometer?

From http://www.keene.co.uk/pages/assistance/lib-ed.html:

"GPI Trigger - what is it?
Many (but not all) edit controllers, titlers and video mixers are equipped with a socket labelled 'GPI', or 'control'. GPI stands for 'General Purpose Interface'. It is a commonly adopted standard which provides the means for one piece of equipment to control another, albeit in a rather limited fashion. Most pieces of equipment will, when they receive a GPI trigger pulse, behave exactly as if the 'play' or 'take' button has been pressed. [...]
The socket used for the GPI trigger is usually (but not always) a 3.5mm stereo jack socket."

Since there is no dedicated GPI socket on the camera, I would assume that the lens / RS232 connector is used. Unfortunately this might cause problems with the Birger lens mount connected to the same port. :wacko:

Hopefully someone from RED or Birger will comment on this issue?

[jbeale]

Since there is no dedicated GPI socket on the camera, I would assume that the lens / RS232 connector is used. Unfortunately this might cause problems with the Birger lens mount connected to the same port.

If that is the port in question, it should be very simple to make a splitter cable to provide RS232 signals and GPI trigger separately. Or maybe the Birger mount could have a minijack for GPI built-in.

[Stokestack]

>>Increased data rate for 2K record resolutions<<

does this mean we have a higher quality 2k recording?

I hope so. This is encouraging; hopefully it means that we can look forward to more flexibility to maximize quality for each combo of image size, recording medium, and frame rate.

[CJ Roy]

One cool feature: if you push the button on the LCD, it blows the image up to full screen and kills all the text. It's a nice little "operator's mode" - and it finally uses the whole LCD! That said, switching outputs quickly was nice before...

Agreed, the quick toggle between LCD & Preview HDSDI was great, and vital, without dual monitor capabilities.
If you set the PVW HDSDI in SETUP>MONITOR>ACTIVE>HDSDI, then hit the toggle button, it does toggle the image to the LCD, but if you hit the button again, it doesn't send it back out through Preview HDSDI anymore. It just blows the image to fullscreen on the LCD.

It's almost there...

[Greg M]

Can anyone confirm the new faster boot-up times?

1.5.1 was about 1:35
1.6.4 is about 1:05

about 33% faster!!

[Scott Webster]

Confirm faster boot 1.07

EVF Hot
Panasonic BT-LH900 Hot
Panasonic BT-LH1700 Hot
HP 2335 Hot

[Poi Boy]

EVF ! showoff ! LOL
Aloha
-A

[MikeCurtis]

One cool feature: if you push the button on the LCD, it blows the image up to full screen and kills all the text. It's a nice little "operator's mode" - and it finally uses the whole LCD! That said, switching outputs quickly was nice before...
?

Brook - does that only affect the

mean that you can run the preview HD-SDI WITHOUT the UI stuff on it by pushing that button? Or does the feature you mention ONLY apply to the Red LCD?

If it does work on the preview HD-SDI out, does that strike you as production viable, or not?

thanks!

-mike

[Greg M]

Confirm faster boot 1.07

EVF Hot
Panasonic BT-LH900 Hot
Panasonic BT-LH1700 Hot
HP 2335 Hot

so who did you bribe...give it up?

[Matt Redmond]

Did some timelapse tests at 4k 2:1 and yes it works. You can dial the frame rate down to 1fps if you wish...However the issue remains - the longest the shutter can stay open for is 1/24th of a second, which is probably why it's still classed as "preliminary Timelapse mode"

[Rob Lohman]

I always was a pirate.

>>Increased data rate for 2K record resolutions<<

does this mean we have a higher quality 2k recording?

That would be correct

[Stuart English]

One cool feature: if you push the button on the LCD, it blows the image up to full screen and kills all the text. It's a nice little "operator's mode" - and it finally uses the whole LCD! That said, switching outputs quickly was nice before...


If you press and hold that key down Brook and it will still push the video signal back to the other connected monitor...

[grandpa it burns]

Brook - does that only affect the

mean that you can run the preview HD-SDI WITHOUT the UI stuff on it by pushing that button? Or does the feature you mention ONLY apply to the Red LCD?

If it does work on the preview HD-SDI out, does that strike you as production viable, or not?

thanks!

-mike

Mr. Curtis, or should I call you by you new nickname "The Mike" You are sharp as ever. I really like you.

[Stuart English]

Since there is no dedicated GPI socket on the camera, I would assume that the lens / RS232 connector is used.

There is now.. both of the Aux Power Connectors on the back of the camera have a GPI and a GPO

GPI A is mapped to pin 2 in the upper 4 pin LEMO. Contact closure to Ground (pin 1) will initiate a RECORD start or stop.

GPO A is mapped to pin 3 in the upper 4 pin LEMO. During RECORD its state goes high (+3.3V) i.e it acts as a tally signal.


GPI B is mapped to pin 2 in the lower 4 pin LEMO. Contact closure to Ground (pin 1) will initiate a SINGLE FRAME image capture, followed by a STEP RECORD of between 1 to 10 frames as set in the TIMELAPSE menu.

GPO B is mapped to pin 3 in the lower 4 pin LEMO. It is intended to change its state at the completion of the STEP RECORD operation, but in Build 10 it temporarily works as GPO A does i.e its a second record tally.

Note: To use GPI B put the camera into TIMELAPSE MODE, then each frame is captured as an on-demand single frame recording, but within the context of a single clip. i.e if you make 50 records of 2 frames each, you will create a single clip of 4 seconds 4 frames duration assuming a 24 fps Project Frame Rate.

[Anders Holck]

There is now..

Very nice.

[Mike Prevette]

great! /grabs nearest soldering iron.

[Brook Willard]

If you press and hold that key down Brook and it will still push the video signal back to the other connected monitor...

Thanks for the heads-up, Stuart.


Brook - does that only affect the

mean that you can run the preview HD-SDI WITHOUT the UI stuff on it by pushing that button? Or does the feature you mention ONLY apply to the Red LCD?

If it does work on the preview HD-SDI out, does that strike you as production viable, or not?

thanks!

-mike

The Look Around is still on in this mode. I believe the shot name [A001_etc.] is also visible, but I don't remember.

Also remember that the extra stuff [Frame rate, etc.] wasn't really visible on the SDI output as a result of that data sitting outside of the normal 16:9 area.

If by "production viable" you mean good enough for external recording... nope. Not beyond playback. Did I misinterpret?

I hit some bugs today, as expected with a beta build.

Enabling the "operator's mode" will sometimes enable the spot meter.
The camera will randomly switch to 2K mode as it sees fit.
Pressing the LCD power button with the histogram enabled will cut off the right 80% of the histogram on the screen.

Found a few others. I'll post them as I remember them.

[Oliver Skibbe]

There is now.. both of the Aux Power Connectors on the back of the camera have a a GPI and a GPO.

Thanks for the update, this is just great!