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patrick moreau
09-19-2011, 03:25 AM
i realize this isn't a big wedding crowd, so this post might not be so popular around here. we (stillmotion) started in weddings. one day the NFL saw one and brought us on board. last year we shot the superbowl all DSLR and this year we have transitioned from a full wedding company as of two years ago to a studio of 10 where weddings are about 10% of what we do. we just shot a wedding in the south of france and it seemed like a great chance to bring the epic along and see what could be done. i just did a detailed write-up on our blog (stillmotionblog.com) and i thought i would share that here. i hope that is okay and that there are some insights here you find valuable.

P.
http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/janet.jpg
janet finishing up getting ready moments before the ceremony. all images pulled from the epic footage and processed in redcine-pro.

we added the epic a couple months ago solely for our more produced commercial side. from the beginning we’ve been asked if we planned to shoot any weddings with it, and from the beginning the answer was always ‘no’. after all, this is a $70,000 investment and with the unpredictable nature of an event, it felt like too much of a liability. the power of being a part of the creative community of photographers and filmmakers is that through hearing the question so many times we couldn’t help but start to wonder what if…


as we prepared to fly out to the south of france for janet and josh’s wedding, the question, which inevitably had to come up at some point, and we asked ourselves if we should bring the epic. it was far from an easy decision considering how much gear it adds and that our trip was a flight, train, and car rental. if we were ever going to try it, this seemed like the right time (no same day edit, a very free flowing wedding, and…well.. france).


http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/landscape.jpg
the view from our hotel. epic, meet epic.


those of you that know what we are about, know that we are very passionate about keeping things real at an event. that means no pausing, slowing things down, or re-takes. the problem is, the epic likes all of those things. in fact, it might not be a stretch to say that the epic was built for those things. that was absolutely the biggest challenge. trying to keep up, or ideally stay one step ahead, while working with a slower, heavier, and more complex camera. i’ll be honest, i caught myself a couple times wanting to slow things down so i had time to get where i wanted to be. if the epic was to be part of how we shoot weddings it needed to fit into the way we cover an event, and that meant i needed to find a way to be faster and adapt.


why the epic?

challenge. if the epic is a camera that isn’t optimal for shooting an event than why bring it along in the first place? first and foremost, and this can’t be understated in it’s importance, we love a challenge and we love to push ourselves. this was a scary endeavor and it’s important to put yourself in those situations.


resolution. france would be a location that calls for scenics. a DSLR is many great things, but shooting wide scenics is not their strength. having a camera that shot at such a high-resolution meant no more moire, amazing wides, the ability to zoom and crop in post as needed, and the possibility of pulling frames as photos. with amina there also shooting photo, but shooting by herself, we definitely took advantage of the resolution of the epic and pulling frames. it is too early to tell exactly what she may use, but it would be hard to see the frames not being a significant part of her coverage.


frame rate and aspect ratios. we don’t shoot much slow motion, but when we do it is awesome having the option to go up to 120fps while still keeping 5k resolution. there was a couple times this felt appropriate and i think both shots will end up in the trailer. as with any new tool, the trick is in not over-using and instead employing it in a relevant way. i hope we did that. we opted to shoot the entire wedding at 5k and 2.4:1. the area was in itself a character in the wedding (hence the title of this post) and the wider frame in a 2.4:1 ratio really lets that come alive.


dynamic range. having about 13.5 stops of range to work with is a huge benefit for an event. for the majority of the day we need to shoot natural light, and having the ability to capture that extra detail helps to make the most of tough lighting situations. the epic also offers an HDRx mode where you can add up to 6 stops more range. surprisingly, we rarely needed to use HDRx as the 13.5 stops was more than enough in most situations, including the one below.


http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/bocci.jpg
the guys playing a relaxing game the day before the wedding. note how they are in complete shade yet we can still see detail in the mountains behind them, which are in direct sun (shot around 2pm).

shooting in raw. color is such an integral part of our process, and the idea of being able to grade an image in raw is one of the most exciting aspects of the epic. see the images below, both processed in redcine-pro in seconds, to get an idea of just how much you can push and change and image and it still stands strong. this gives an incredible amount of creative control to really have your story come through in the color phase.


http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/landscape2.jpg
the view from the other side of the hotel :) shot with the RED 17-50mm at 17mm.

http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/housewarm.jpg
a warm toning to match the early morning when the shot was taken. shot with the RED 300mm. shot from the same spot as the image above (note this house slightly to the right of the middle of the frame).

http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/houseblue.jpg
processed to look like it was shot in the evening as an example of how far the image can be pushed.

the challenges


shooting with the epic was absolutely a challenge. so much so that mid-way through shooting some coverage the day before the wedding i almost went and put the epic away in favor of my trusty MKIV. i’m very thankful i had paul there with me shooting DSLR. it meant i could trust he would take care of things and give me the freedom to make mistakes and adapt. with that i kept pushing myself to be faster and stuck with it.

mobility. having the same speed and flexibility as a DSLR was definitely what hit me most. by the end of the wedding day it was definitely smoother of a process than the day before. while the epic is definitely over weight for our faithful monopod, it handled it well and the majority of the wedding (including ceremony and speeches) was still shot with a monopod. i don’t know if it would have been possible otherwise. a shoulder rig would have added a lot of fatigue and not enough stability for the look we wanted, and a tripod would have been much too slow. another thing that really helped was using the side handle and red volts whenever possible. these are small batteries that fit inside the side handle and power the camera for 20-30 minutes each. the epic-m package ships with four, so that gives us just over an hour of maximum mobility. when things were moving fast, i took off the much larger and heavier red brick/battery mount/cheese plate setup and opted for the much smaller batteries. the run rime definitely scared us but all four end up lasting the day (for the portions they were needed).

audio. as the epic has no built in mic, audio was something that needed to be solved. for more formal parts of the wedding (speeches and ceremony) where we would normally use lav mics, audio wasn’t a major concern as we could figure out syncing in post. for other times, such as the preps, we attached a zoom H4n to the bottom of the rails and ran the headphone jack into the input on the epic to give us a guide track. this is not the best solution, but it kept our size down and speed up (the wooden camera XLR adapter and a shotgun mic would have been much better for audio quality alone).

memory. shooting at 5K at 8:1 compression ratio meant some pretty big files. the epic ships with 4 128gb SSDs and we only managed to fill up half of that. what was a concern at the beginning of the day turned out to be a non-issue. with longer event coverage this would definitely come into play again, but we were lucky to have a shorter ceremony and very few speeches.


http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/jjcer.jpg
the ceremony. shot with a zeiss CP2 at T2.1 and an ISO of 1000.

http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/titospeech.jpg
tito shares some words at the rehearsal dinner.

the result
at the end of the day i’m glad we chose to bring and shoot with the epic. a good portion of the wedding was still shot on DSLR (by paul or myself) but it looks like the majority of the trailer will come from the epic. it is too early to tell how this may change our event coverage in the future, but i think it is safe to say that the epic won’t become a staple part.

P.


http://stillmotionblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/jjafter.jpg
janet and josh right after the ceremony. all images pulled from the epic footage and processed in redcine-pro.

Detlev Eller
09-19-2011, 05:40 AM
nice (!) ... :-)

Michael Dalton
09-19-2011, 06:25 AM
Your right probably not a wedding crowd, and I doubt I'd even watch the tape of my own wedding, but I may if it were shot on epic!!!! I just hope someone in the crown new how special the camera was. nice overkill!

Andy White
09-19-2011, 07:00 AM
I don't see why you need to justify a post :)

Stillmotion have been one of the names that pops up again and again in the DSLR side for quality and well made stuff. I remember the demo of the Zephyr a while ago plus the Indian wedding film (and the NFL stuff)... so, whilst it's a different crowd here, I don't think it diminishes Stillmotion's work at all.

As you say, your business model is changing and expanding - let's hope the NFL get you in for an Epic Superbowl!

Liam Hall
09-19-2011, 07:29 AM
Well said Andy, I've seen a lot of Stillmotion's work on the net and it's excellent. Indeed, after 27 years making moving pics of various types I shot my first wedding (as a gift for my former editor) earlier this summer and it was no walk in the park - particularly after a few glasses of champagne!

I'm sure you'll have lots of fun with your Epic - looks like you already are...

Kegan Sant
09-19-2011, 07:32 AM
Absolutely stunning work, as always. Really beautiful stuff.

Kegan

Eric Rodemann
09-19-2011, 09:09 AM
Those shots look great! It looks like any moment Bill from Kill Bill is going to barge into the wedding with the Deadly Vipers Assassination Squad. Maybe the Priest has clues Tom Hanks needs to solve a riddle that has been plaguing the Catholic Church. Or Jackie Chan is in the back row with Chris Tucker on an undercover assignment, when suddenly...

Oh wait. This is just a real wedding isn't it?

Ben Coleman
09-20-2011, 01:06 PM
Patrick,
My wife has been following your work since she got into weddings a few years ago. I, on the other hand, am the technical person and have been following Red for many years now. I have always hated the DSLR limitations and been a huge proponent of Red in the wedding community when no one would listen to me. I am aware that an Epic is somewhat overkill for weddings but, by golly, I really want to shoot them all with that. Now that Stillmotion has seen the Redvolution maybe I won't be the only odd guy in the back of the room at infocus saying how there are much better cameras than DSLRs.

Justin Kirchhoff
09-20-2011, 01:24 PM
Great work.

Dan Kanes
09-20-2011, 02:10 PM
great stuff you guys.

You have to get the Epic EOS mount. It makes mobile efp really fun and easier.

Timothy Tse
09-20-2011, 02:57 PM
Wow!!! Absolutely stunning! I am part of the wedding crowd :) I do wedding videos too and always love SM. I always dream of using Red one day to shoot wedding... if I can afford it... absolutely beautiful works!

Errol Afed
09-23-2011, 12:36 AM
Beautiful images, congratulations on your new toy!

Bob Minervini
09-23-2011, 12:48 AM
looking good!

Ed David
09-24-2011, 12:41 AM
Did anyone read between the lines? Stillmotion does not recommend Epic at this point for run and gun shooting. They would take a DSLR over that (which may be a bold statement considering that DSLRS have a fixed 12 minute record time that shuts off without warning, lack of in camera stability and the lack of flexibility in the recording codec in post). I think the Epic needs to be viewed more as a cinema camera where sync sound and an ac with batteries that last longer is available. Not for one man bands.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course. The right camera for the right job.

Eric Z
09-24-2011, 01:18 AM
Patrick,
Very interesting post, and thanks for sharing your experience with the EPIC at a wedding.

Since the MkIV shoots at 16:9 1080p, that means you'll have to down-res/crop the EPIC's footage to 1080p as well.
What are you planning on using for post-production? Premiere Pro CS5.5.1? AE CS5.5? FCPX?

Denizhan Nacar
09-24-2011, 02:19 AM
epic wedding great pictures ,congrats

Nicolas Guillou
09-24-2011, 02:27 AM
Really beautiful job.
Where do you do it ?

Luc Bouvrette
09-24-2011, 04:17 AM
Beautiful results and interesting write-up. Thanks for sharing.

Sami S
09-24-2011, 05:40 AM
Awesome stills!

J Toha
10-14-2011, 11:26 AM
Patrick, you and your team at Stillmotion never failed to amaze me. I'm a regular reader and follower of your blog and Vimeo posts.

Keep it up, mate! *thumbs up*

John Marchant
10-14-2011, 11:51 AM
Did anyone read between the lines? Stillmotion does not recommend Epic at this point for run and gun shooting. They would take a DSLR over that (which may be a bold statement considering that DSLRS have a fixed 12 minute record time that shuts off without warning, lack of in camera stability and the lack of flexibility in the recording codec in post). I think the Epic needs to be viewed more as a cinema camera where sync sound and an ac with batteries that last longer is available. Not for one man bands.

Not that there is anything wrong with that, of course. The right camera for the right job.

I would respectfully disagree. EPIC configures to a very lightweight, one-man operable form - I use it like this all the time and can trek about with camera/monopod in one hand and a kit bag with nd's, lenses or other extras on my shoulder. Spare redvolts and spare SSD's fit trouser pockets. If I'm recording sound I'll either be interviewing, where an H4n or similar is easy for me to wrangle, (sat in my bag, taped to a boom pole etc) or using a sound recordist / assistant anyway.

Andreas Mendritzki
10-14-2011, 01:56 PM
I would respectfully disagree. EPIC configures to a very lightweight, one-man operable form - I use it like this all the time and can trek about with camera/monopod in one hand and a kit bag with nd's, lenses or other extras on my shoulder. Spare redvolts and spare SSD's fit trouser pockets. If I'm recording sound I'll either be interviewing, where an H4n or similar is easy for me to wrangle, (sat in my bag, taped to a boom pole etc) or using a sound recordist / assistant anyway.

Yeah, I second that John.

I mean, the look for weddings right now is absolutely 100% DSLR originated. But they are a pain in the arse in so many ways themselves (12minute shut off being but one. Awkward menus layouts, h264, rolling shutter, line skipping etc. etc. I'm sure I don't need to list them all!!). The thing with the Epic is that it is modular (and that aspect will shine through even more as Red releases more modules). Its built to function in a number of different environments. So in fact things like audio do actually become easier on the epic than they currently are on a DSLR.

Epic being able to handle the low-light levels of wedding videography so well make it a hands down winner alone.

On the other hand, of course, its price point puts it out of the practicality range for shooting all but a small percentage of weddings.

However. . . November 3rd anyone??? Scarlet is going to be right on the money for companies like Still Motion, and our own Montreal based Eye Heart Films.


Anyway, kudos Patrick, looks great (as always).