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Lachlan Ward
12-13-2007, 07:18 AM
Hey guys I am planing on sticking my Red on a Miller Arrow 55. Do I need the 15mm Arri base plate for that?
What exactly is the 15mm base plate used for? I obviously didn't pay enough attention when I was assistant griping.
Also what are you planing on sticking you Reds on?
Thanks Guys
Greg M
12-13-2007, 08:14 AM
no you dont....but you need either the Arri base plate or the base production pack.
The 15mm base is optional if you wish to use 15mm rods instead of the 19mm that comes configured w/ the base production pack.
David Wyatt
12-13-2007, 01:59 PM
Ha ha...griping is indeed what grips do while they're gripping ;-)
In all seriousness though I'm similarly confused about the 15mm set-up. In the UK 15mm fits things like the MB20 and the FF4 in handheld mode (if I'm right it seems to fit things like Arri SR3 lightweight bars and video/Hi-Def bars too (possibly with an Arri bottom plate fixed to a 750/F900 etc?), but I understand there is a 15mm studio mode that is the same width bars but the distance between said bars is different (greater?) Can anyone clear this up? What is the distance between the bars on Red's/Element Technica's Arri 15mm plate & does that differ from the "normal" 15mm width that would fit an MB20 & FF4 in handheld mode?:
http://www.red.com/store/product_detail/43
Greg M
12-13-2007, 02:09 PM
There are only 3 setups and they are all standard;
1. 19mm Studio
2. 15mm Studio
3. 15mm LW
Most gear supports all or some of these. The LW 15mm is a bit shaky for a follow focus but works. If you are using a MB20 and FF4 I would stick with either studio version depending on what your gear currently supports or what is available in your local rental market.
Personally I prefer 19mm for studio config and 15mm for handheld, but the beauty of the Red is you have plenty of options.
Michael Lindsay
12-18-2007, 11:53 AM
Ha ha...griping is indeed what grips do while they're gripping ;-)
In all seriousness though I'm similarly confused about the 15mm set-up. In the UK 15mm fits things like the MB20 and the FF4 in handheld mode (if I'm right it seems to fit things like Arri SR3 lightweight bars and video/Hi-Def bars too (possibly with an Arri bottom plate fixed to a 750/F900 etc?), but I understand there is a 15mm studio mode that is the same width bars but the distance between said bars is different (greater?) Can anyone clear this up? What is the distance between the bars on Red's/Element Technica's Arri 15mm plate & does that differ from the "normal" 15mm width that would fit an MB20 & FF4 in handheld mode?:
http://www.red.com/store/product_detail/43
David
Looks like you didn't believe me :biggrin:
Now get off reduser before your Missus gets upset...
Michael
David Wyatt
12-18-2007, 07:46 PM
Hey Michael! It's you!!...I thought you were a lurker???:bleh:
Seriously though the coolest thing would be the ability to go, with one click of a snap plate, from studio/head mode straight into handheld mode (you wouldn't believe how much time this saves...I used to take ages doing all that crap as a camera assistant). Arri used to do a handheld set-up for SR3's that consisted of handle-bars combined with a snap plate for an O'Connor - it's a bit similar to this:
http://www.arri.com/prod/cam/acam-img/img/lt2.htm
It would be great if you could get a similar set-up with Red - you could basically be constantly in 15mm mode for hand-held with an MB20 and an FF4 or even better with focus/iris motors, and just go straight from head to hand-held with one click of the snap plate! I liked leaving the handlebars on even when it was on a head so your left hand had something to grab hold of rather than grabbing the bars and annoying the focus puller ;-)
David Wyatt.