Bought Nvidia 285-Resolve crash

[Martin Widerberg]

Just bought and installed Nvidia GTX 285 in slot 1. Nvidia 120 in slot 2.
Didn't install any additional drivers besides the CUDA update Resolve did for the 120 a couple of weeks ago.

Fan is loud on the 285 from computer start. Everything runs fine. 20fps on 4K material. Resolve crash. Restart. Resolve now tells me that the 120 is used for image processing and it's not happy. Nor am I:)

Before installing the 285, Resolve was working slow, but fine.

CUDA Driver version 4.0.50
GPU Driver Version: 7.12.9 270.05.10f03

MacPro Nehelem
10.7.2
6 GB memory


Styrkretsmodell: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285
Typ: Grafikprocessor
Buss: PCIe
Kortplats: Slot-1
PCIe-bandbredd: x16
VRAM (totalt): 896 MB
Tillverkare: NVIDIA (0x10de)
Enhets-ID: 0x05e3
Revisions-ID: 0x00a1
ROM-revision: 3434


Have I done something wrong? Bad card? Any ideas? Thankful for any input.

Martin

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Sounds like a bad card. Did you get a real 285 Mac edition, or is this one with a hacked/flashed EFI?

[Martin Widerberg]

Well, the seller claimed it is a Mac edition, but under the circumstances, I'm not so sure.
How do I find out if it's the real thing?

APPLE MAC PRO NVIDIA GTX 285 896MB 2ND GEN GTX285 08
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/3/5/9/4/9/webimg/472473751_o.jpg

Thanks

[Dustin Cross]

The real cards have 1024MB ram. Sounds like a bad card.


Dusty

[Martin Widerberg]

How do I know how to pick the right card?
Could you please advise me on that?

Thanks
Martin

[Alexander Ibrahim]

My advice is not to screw around ... get a Quadro 4000 Mac Edition from PNY.

Its more expensive, but I find its vastly more reliable in most systems. To my work, its easily worth the full purchase price of these cards to have a half day of downtime.

Also, while the card is about the same speed as the now old GTX285, its expanded RAM lets it hold up better for some applications.

Its widely available for ~$755.

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-DisplayPort-Profesional-Graphics-VCQ4000MAC-PB/dp/tech-data/B004CRS78O

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/745706-REG/PNY_Technologies_VCQ4000MAC_PB_nVIDIA_Quadro_4000_ for.html

[Martin Widerberg]

Thank you for the good advice Alexander.

I went for the 285 in the belief it would be the fastest for Resolve, but with ten different 285 on eBay all claiming to be the Mac version, it seems difficult.

Thanks
Martin

[Dustin Cross]

There are benefits to getting the Quadro 4000.

If you want a GTX285, the safest place is from macvidcards on Ebay.
http://myworld.ebay.com/macvidcards/?_trksid=p4340.l2559

You can find proper Mac 285s other places, but you have to know what to look for to make sure it is a true Mac 285. People hack non-Mac 285s to work on Mac and some even hack the 260 and 275 to look like a 285. I think you have a hacked 260 or 275. If they don't do the firmware right, there will be problems. Macvidcards hacks a lot of cards for Mac and seems to always do it right. And he is honest in telling you if he is selling a 260 or 275 hacked.


Dusty

[Martin Widerberg]

Thanks you Dustin, I will check it out.

[David Didato]

I bought a GTX 285 from macvidcards on ebay. It has 1792Mb Ram. It works. Getting about 10fps on quarter res.

[Alexander Ibrahim]

I bought a GTX 285 from macvidcards on ebay. It has 1792Mb Ram. It works. Getting about 10fps on quarter res.

That sounds slow ... what is the rest of your system? You are using the GTX285 as a second "Resolve" card right?

Is that performance at the end of a node tree, or just a single node/primaries only?

I think I get faster than that with software only using one node on 4K R1 materials with software only decoding without CUDA.

UPDATE: Just checked.

The system I checked on is a 6GB RAM 8 Core 2010 Mac Pro using just an Apple stock ATI 5770 1GB.

My test is a single node with just primaries.

With Epic 5K footage, and decoding set to 16 bits per channel:

I get 12 fps at half res, good decoding.

I get 18fps at quarter res, good.

Epic footage is real-time with 2 nodes throwing everything you can at them in Resolve Lite with a Quadro 4000. I never tried to push a Quadro 4000 to its limits in the real Resolve.

[jake blackstone]

I bought a GTX 285 from macvidcards on ebay. It has 1792Mb Ram. It works. Getting about 10fps on quarter res.

I have been using the same reflashed GTX 285 card from same guys for over a year now. No issues whatsoever...

[Martin Widerberg]

Just ordered a 285 from macvidcards. Could't resist the line in the Resolve recommended hardware text about it being the fastest:)
Thank you all for the good advise and recommendations.

Martin

[Stephen Strangways]

Well, the seller claimed it is a Mac edition, but under the circumstances, I'm not so sure.
How do I find out if it's the real thing?

APPLE MAC PRO NVIDIA GTX 285 896MB 2ND GEN GTX285 08
http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/3/5/9/4/9/webimg/472473751_o.jpg

Thanks

That's a PC version GTX 260 or 275 reflashed to appear as a GTX 285.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_260_us.html
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_275_us.html

A real Mac GTX 285 looks like this:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_285_for_mac_us.html

I've seen a few sellers on eBay selling both, listing a GTX 260 saying it's a GTX 285, and also listing a real GTX 285 saying it's an "authentic GTX 285" that is "not reflashed, it's a true Mac edition" so you have to be careful.

[Martin Widerberg]

Thank you Stephen

I will try to get a refund from the seller. You learn something new every day:) At Reduser
This is a really good forum. Thanks!

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Martin,

Stephen Strangeways has all the info in his post above. There are a lot of shady sellers out there doing this -- they're picking up no-name generic GTX26x and GTX27x for $60 and flashing them with the Mac GTX285 EFI and then re-selling them for quite a bit more. So the cards typically work alright for GUI tasks / general use. Typically have a shorter lifespan... Will often crash hard, even burn up and die, if pushed with any real GPU processing or CUDA tasks. I would try to get your money back. The auction site should be able to help you as well.. After all, the guy completely lied to you.

The ones from Macvidcards are the only flashed cards I would trust, even then only half as far as I could throw one. The guy does know what he's doing, is an active macrumors.com forum member. He tweaks and even writes EFI code for the cards himself. I'm not really endorsing any of his flashed cards, personally I still think they're best suited for personal or hobby use.

The Quadro 4000 is the best choice for the Mac Pro at the moment. With the latest drivers, it's a touch faster than the GTX285. If you shop around and time certain rebates, you can pick one up for around $600. Sometimes less than that if you can find a used one. A big advantage to the Quadro 4000 is it is a single-width card and only requires one 6-pin power connector. This lets you easily use two of them in a Mac Pro for Resolve, and can make it more convenient in external enclosures, like the Cubix Xpander with 4 single-wide slots.

GTX285 is two generations old, about to become 3 generations out. It was discontinued some time ago. Best deal I've seen on one, especially for the Mac edition, has been from EVGA themselves. They occasionally have refurbished cards for sale on their site for around $250. It might be USA only and I don't know if they have any right now, but it's worth watching for. Seriously though, I would recommend the Quadro 4000 if you can. Just be sure to get a Mac version.

[Martin Widerberg]

Thank you Jeff
I already ordered a 285 from Macvidcards, but your arguments for the 4000 are very convincing.
In retrospect, I would have been better off, asking those questions before buying the first card.
But I learned new things, and knowledge is good.

Could you recommend what output card I should use for viewing on a Pioneer plasma?
I keep reading Decklink Extreme, but what about DeckLink 4K?

Thanks
Martin

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Decklink HD Extreme 3D+

With the Pioneer plasma, you obviously won't get to use the 3D functionality, but otherwise it's proving to be a great card and is fully supported by Resolve and other apps like Premiere. The Decklink 4K only makes sense if you're going to be monitoring in 4K. And it lacks some of the other bells and whistles found on the HD card.

You can feed your Pioneer plasma a 10bit HDMI signal right from the Decklink HD Extreme 3D card.

[Tim Sutherland]

Also, if you're using a flashed card, you might have to delete the applegraphicspowermanagement.kext (I think that's the one) to get full performance. If you buy from Macvidcards, contact him and he'll help out, even make a tweak to your kext file so you can replace it. Worked like a charm when my gtx480 from him didn't seem to be working above 10 fps, now I get 14 nodes at full 24fps at half res premium (with rocket card).

Tim

[Martin Widerberg]

Thank you Jeff

Tim, I will definetly follow your advice and contact Macvidcards about the kext file.
Thank you!

[Dave P]

Hey, simply put, if you get a GTX285 that has 896 Megs of RAM then it is a GTX260 or GTX275. There is a VERY disreputable guy in Ohio named Aaron who is currently trying to dupe people with these cards. His Ebay name is MacDesignerSystems and Graphics or something to that effect.

The GTX260 and GTX275 can work as GTX285, but they are considerably slower. They have fewer rendering units and less memory bandwidth and need to be down-clocked to avoid crashes like you have described. I imagine hat he just tossed the usual 285 ROM on the card and only tested it by seeing if it reached desktop.

The AGPM kext trick is not needed for GTX285 cards, but is needed for GTX470 and GTX480. The GTX480 is nearly TWICE the speed of GTX285 once you do this. The GTX470 is also faster, and either one will leave the Quadro 4000 for dead. I just witnessed a Noise Reduction test that pretty much ended all doubt as to this. There was a Quadro in same league as the GTX470, but it is a $3K Quadro 6000.

If you buy a GTX285 and it only shows 896 Megs of RAM, it is a 260/275. If this was not mentioned anywhere in the ad, time to get PO'd and demand money back. Also, remember that sellers can only leave POSITIVE feedback for you, while you can lambaste them with whatever you feel like saying. So feel free to warn future buyers that the seller is a hack.

[jake blackstone]

Hey, simply put, if you get a GTX285 that has 896 Megs of RAM then it is a GTX260 or GTX275. There is a VERY disreputable guy in Ohio named Aaron who is currently trying to dupe people with these cards. His Ebay name is MacDesignerSystems and Graphics or something to that effect.

The GTX260 and GTX275 can work as GTX285, but they are considerably slower. They have fewer rendering units and less memory bandwidth and need to be down-clocked to avoid crashes like you have described. I imagine hat he just tossed the usual 285 ROM on the card and only tested it by seeing if it reached desktop.

The AGPM kext trick is not needed for GTX285 cards, but is needed for GTX470 and GTX480. The GTX480 is nearly TWICE the speed of GTX285 once you do this. The GTX470 is also faster, and either one will leave the Quadro 4000 for dead. I just witnessed a Noise Reduction test that pretty much ended all doubt as to this. There was a Quadro in same league as the GTX470, but it is a $3K Quadro 6000.

If you buy a GTX285 and it only shows 896 Megs of RAM, it is a 260/275. If this was not mentioned anywhere in the ad, time to get PO'd and demand money back. Also, remember that sellers can only leave POSITIVE feedback for you, while you can lambaste them with whatever you feel like saying. So feel free to warn future buyers that the seller is a hack.

Here is the test, that we just ran with Dave.
http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?65162-Comparing-Resolve-performance-with-GTX-285-470-480-and-Quadra-6000

[Djamel Becherif]

Hey, simply put, if you get a GTX285 that has 896 Megs of RAM then it is a GTX260 or GTX275. There is a VERY disreputable guy in Ohio named Aaron who is currently trying to dupe people with these cards. His Ebay name is MacDesignerSystems and Graphics or something to that effect.

The GTX260 and GTX275 can work as GTX285, but they are considerably slower. They have fewer rendering units and less memory bandwidth and need to be down-clocked to avoid crashes like you have described. I imagine hat he just tossed the usual 285 ROM on the card and only tested it by seeing if it reached desktop.

The AGPM kext trick is not needed for GTX285 cards, but is needed for GTX470 and GTX480. The GTX480 is nearly TWICE the speed of GTX285 once you do this. The GTX470 is also faster, and either one will leave the Quadro 4000 for dead. I just witnessed a Noise Reduction test that pretty much ended all doubt as to this. There was a Quadro in same league as the GTX470, but it is a $3K Quadro 6000.

If you buy a GTX285 and it only shows 896 Megs of RAM, it is a 260/275. If this was not mentioned anywhere in the ad, time to get PO'd and demand money back. Also, remember that sellers can only leave POSITIVE feedback for you, while you can lambaste them with whatever you feel like saying. So feel free to warn future buyers that the seller is a hack.


CRAP, just ordered a GTX 285 from that guy and have paid it through PayPal.

In the picture is showed a OEM EVGA GTX 285 and have a email from him claiming it is a genuine OEM card.....

WHAT SHOULD I DO?

Thanks for any advice.........

EDIT: this is the link to the same add I responded to: http://www.ebay.nl/itm/APPLE-MAC-PRO-NVIDIA-GTX-285-1GB-EVGA-2ND-GEN-GTX285-08-/140624949266?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item20bde67012

[Dave P]

That one looks real. Make sure what you get is what is pictured and that it has 1 GB of RAM.

The fraudulent listing of his is this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/130590876008#ht_1141wt_1306

A GTX260 being sold as a GTX285. The 896 MB is the give away.

If you end up returning it, a GTX470 is a better choice for same basic $$$ anyhow.

[Djamel Becherif]

Cool, thanks for putting my mind to ease just a little bit!

Where do you recommend getting the GTX470 from? (I am in europe)

Again, thanks for your reply!

[Dave P]

MacVidCards in Los Angeles or Mac Pro Systems in San Jose.

As Jake just posted, the GTX470 IS more powerful than GTX285. FOr GPU / CUDA tasks, it is measurably faster.

[Djamel Becherif]

Thanks for the tips!

Before ordering from that Aaron guy I contacted macvidcards as they state on the bottom of their ads (I am located in The Netherlands).
He said that he will only ship with FedEx to the Netherlands due to bad past experiences with USPS, shipping with FedEx would have cost me $155,-

I felt that amount was ridiculous, because it is almost half of what the cards cost......

Maybe I should have gone with the macvidcards, but I just felt that a OEM card would be more stable/trustworthy, we'll see what happens with the Aaron guy....

Thanks for the help Dave!

[Alexander Ibrahim]

MacVidCards in Los Angeles or Mac Pro Systems in San Jose.

As Jake just posted, the GTX470 IS more powerful than GTX285. FOr GPU / CUDA tasks, it is measurably faster.

Your website is a mess ... otherwise I'd have bought something already.

I'm interested in the GTX 480, but I guess I need to know more about the external power supply business.

I am also interested in the Quadro 4000 ... because it requires a single slot. Are there other Nvidia cards that are reasonably modern and require only a single slot? I mean a GT120 just won't do. Ideally I want something that will outperform my ATI 5770 (2010 Mac Pro stock video card)

The dearth of simple GPU choices makes me consider building a dedicated Resolve Windows box. I hate Windows ... so that will get set up and basically just boot and run Resolve. I'd rather run Resolve Linux ... but that's out of my price range by a wide margin.

[Dave P]

Your website is a mess ... otherwise I'd have bought something already.

I'm interested in the GTX 480, but I guess I need to know more about the external power supply business.

I am also interested in the Quadro 4000 ... because it requires a single slot. Are there other Nvidia cards that are reasonably modern and require only a single slot? I mean a GT120 just won't do. Ideally I want something that will outperform my ATI 5770 (2010 Mac Pro stock video card)

The dearth of simple GPU choices makes me consider building a dedicated Resolve Windows box. I hate Windows ... so that will get set up and basically just boot and run Resolve. I'd rather run Resolve Linux ... but that's out of my price range by a wide margin.

Yeah, Never meant to go this far with it as is. Will be finding someone to finish the site soon.

The GTX480 requires an external power supply, they are available from various sources for $100 or less, but require wires running into Mac, NOT elegant.

There are no powerful Nvidia cards in single slot style. There might be a GTX460 but it is no more or less powerful than Q4000.

The 5770 is not especially useful for Resolve, BMD has added moderate support for it because it is the default card in a new Mac.

The BEST Mac option is an expansion chassis with a couple or 3 GTX480s. Yes, I know, expensive. But how much are the Q4000s? The GTX480 is half as much, and can run rings around them.

There is no super easy option. They are all compromises. For the fastest Resolve system in OSX, the compromise is dealing with GTX480s power & heat issues.

[Rick Allen]

Unfortunately i didnt get my card from Dave either though the sellers name was mac_video_cards and I was rushing and didnt pick up on it and now I have a 285 that is based on a Zotac 285 and seems to run under Premiere with cuda but resolve wont have a bar of it just keeps crashing and saying no cudo card available or something similar. Other than buying another 285 or 470 from Dave is there any options out there?

[Dave P]

Ah yes, my old "friend" John Quintal. At least that was the name he was using when he ran a bogus Ebay presence in CT. He bought cards from me and had them forwarded to him in Australia. He had the gall to return some so he could get multiple ROMs for price of one card. He's a piece of work, I mentioned him to Jake yesterday.

Zotac makes fine cards, so the problem is either that he duped you with a GTX260 that he "relabeled" or the card is just NG. All about how much VRAM. If it is 896 Megs, you have been throughly swindled and should file appropriate claims to retrieve your money. If it is 1024 Megs, then card may have issues all by itself. Run CUDA-Z to see what the general CUDA performance is. If CUDA-Z crashes out, you will have your answer.

Imitation may be sincerest form of flattery but I'm not flattered. I should file with Ebay about him giving himself a name so like mine.

Zotac cards are typically good. Both the GTX470 and GTX480 that Jake tested yesterday were new Zotac ones. I have had no more or less trouble from them then any other brand, though EVGA does seem to have best.

But you should check how much RAM, it will be in System Profiler or CUDA-Z.

[Rick Allen]

Thanks Dave that be the guy I bought mine from. F@#$%%er I'll give cuda-z a go it does say that it has 1024 ram and the box it came in is for a 285 Zotac so fingers crossed.

Edit__ after not being able to load cuda-z a few times it kept saying could not see CUDA I restart and power recycled a couple times and suddenly the Cuda sys pref wanted to load version 4 of the driver and BANG its working. So strange the longer I spend with computers the less logical they seem to be.

here is the Cuda-Z report
CUDA-Z Report
=============
Version: 0.6.133 SVN Built Jun 25 2010 23:28:46
http://cuda-z.sourceforge.net/
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.6.8 10K549
Driver Version: 1.6.37.0 (256.02.25f01)
Driver Dll Version: 4.0
Runtime Dll Version: 3.0

Core Information
----------------
Name: GeForce GTX 285
Compute Capability: 1.3
Clock Rate: 1476 MHz
Multiprocessors: 30
Warp Size: 32
Regs Per Block: 16384
Threads Per Block: 512
Threads Dimensions: 512 x 512 x 64
Grid Dimensions: 65535 x 65535 x 1
Watchdog Enabled: Yes
Integrated GPU: No
Concurrent Kernels: No
Compute Mode: Default

Memory Information
------------------
Total Global: 1023.69 MiB
Shared Per Block: 16 KiB
Pitch: 2048 MiB
Total Constant: 64 KiB
Texture Alignment: 256 B
Texture 1D Size: 8192
Texture 2D Size: 65536 x 32768
Texture 3D Size: 2048 x 2048 x 2048
GPU Overlap: Yes
Map Host Memory: Yes
Error Correction: No

Performance Information
-----------------------
Memory Copy
Host Pinned to Device: 5762.31 MiB/s
Host Pageable to Device: 5281.13 MiB/s
Device to Host Pinned: 5762.11 MiB/s
Device to Host Pageable: 5301.62 MiB/s
Device to Device: 59.4794 GiB/s
GPU Core Performance
Single-precision Float: 704.691 Gflop/s
Double-precision Float: 86.808 Gflop/s
32-bit Integer: 141.535 Giop/s
24-bit Integer: 705.009 Giop/s

Generated: Wed Oct 26 16:28:41 2011

Thanks

[Dave P]

Well, you may be OK if the thing works now.

I hope that the card works out, but it stinks for me that he is riding on my coattails hoping for people to not notice that he ISN'T me. Slimy guy.

[Martin Widerberg]

Nvidia GTX 285 from MacVidCards arrived and is working perfectly!
25 fps in half resolution.

Thank you!

[Martin Widerberg]

Thank you for your advice on the DeckLink HD Extreme 3D.
Sorry to say I have only one slot left in my Mac Pro, since not buying the 4000. Do I feel stupid? Yes!

So I'm wondering if you think the Intensity Pro would work?
I'm on Resolve, Avid and FCP.
This would be to connect to a Panasonic VT30Y Plasma.

Thank you

[Tim Sutherland]

Just a quick note to anyone thinking of purchasing from Dave, I originally bought his 285 card, and wanted more power. He took the card as an exchange with no problem and was extremely helpful with choosing to go with the 480. I would not buy one of these from anyone else based on my experience here and other reduser's experience.

I'm not affiliated with him in any way, just a very satisfied customer.

Tim

[Jeff Kilgroe]

Thank you for your advice on the DeckLink HD Extreme 3D.
Sorry to say I have only one slot left in my Mac Pro, since not buying the 4000. Do I feel stupid? Yes!

So I'm wondering if you think the Intensity Pro would work?

Don't have Resolve in front of me to check right now, but be sure the Intensity card is supported. I would still recommend the DeckLink HD Extreme 3D. It takes a single slot. The secondary slot space is only used to route the HDMI connectors out and there are other ways to get HDMI connectors routed out of your system case. You may only need one of them if you're just monitoring.

[Martin Widerberg]

I was actually pondering the idea of making an extra hole in the alu chassi:)
Du you have a less "destructive" idea of how to route the cable?

Thank you for all your good advice!

[Tim Sutherland]

For a while I had a piece of clear plexiglas cut the size of the Mac pro door, then I took the bumper off the door and attached it to the plexiglas, and drilled holes to mount the redrocket hdsdi cables out (full slots and 2 optical drives) to give side access. I now have the aluminum door back on since I have a Cubix expander now.
Tim

[Stephen Strangways]

Thank you for your advice on the DeckLink HD Extreme 3D.
Sorry to say I have only one slot left in my Mac Pro, since not buying the 4000. Do I feel stupid? Yes!

So I'm wondering if you think the Intensity Pro would work?
I'm on Resolve, Avid and FCP.
This would be to connect to a Panasonic VT30Y Plasma.

Thank you

It won't help you much if your plasma is HDMI-only, but for everyone else, I should mention that I'm using the cheap Decklink SDI. It's working perfectly fine, so I'm not sure why they only list the HD Extreme 3D in the config guide.

[Martin Widerberg]

Blackmagic told me that the Intensity Pro would work but it's not in the "supported hardware"
I'm not sure why that is.
In my world either it work or it doesn't work.

Good idea with the plexiglas door.

Thank you

[Dwaine Maggart]

The Intensity Pro is not Resolve "supported hardware" because it doesn't have an SDI Input or Output and it doesn't have an RS-422 VTR control port. It MIGHT work if you want to display the Resolve output on an HDMI display. But I'm not even sure about that because it hasn't been tested to do that. Perhaps whoever told you it would work has done that test.

Supported hardware in the Mac Resolve config guide has been tested and verified to work in all respects related to Resolve operation, or if there are any limitations on any specific device, those will be spelled out.

As all the Blackmagic Design I/O cards use the same underlying driver architecture, it's likely most of the cards will work to some level with Resolve. Mainly, if all you are looking for is an output display card, probably most of them will work, within their limitations. Some may only have a specific type of output. Some may only do specific video standards. Some may lack VTR control. Some may lack some, most or all of the Resolve supported audio capabilities. If you have a cheaper card, or want to buy a cheaper card, and it does what you need it to do, great. We just can't support it if you have any issues with it. And we can't tell you if it will work for your scenario.

If you use the recommended DeckLink HD Extreme 3D card as the Resolve I/O device, it will support all of the available Resolve modes of operation.

[Martin Widerberg]

Don't get me wrong Dwaine. I was about to buy the DeckLink HD Extreme 3D. It is the card I want.

But the hustle of getting it to work with only one slot left leaves me with the scenario of throwing out my 285 and buy a 4000, or drill a hole in my computer. I'm happy with my 285. And abusing the Mac doesn't feel good.
And suddenly the belief of "it might work" feels like a not so bad scenario.
I'll try the Intensity, if it doesn't work in my workflow, I guess I'll go get the power drill:) and get the DeckLink HD Extreme 3D.

[Uli Plank]

I haven't tested it again recently, but the Intensity used to work with the first version 8.

[Martin Widerberg]

Intensity works!

I must say I'm very impressed by Blackmagic.
Fine line-up of products at different price ranges. It works, it looks good and you can upgrade Resolve after need.