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Eric Rodemann
11-01-2011, 06:16 PM
If you build it, someone will make a feature film with it. It's been done with the 5d Mark II, the 7d, and even the T2i.

How long do you think it will take for someone to make a feature with the Scarlet after release?
Solomon Nero
11-01-2011, 06:21 PM
lol...cant be long...its RED...you cant KEEP those things out of features... ;)
Sierra Haworth
11-01-2011, 06:21 PM
How ever long it takes the first person to get theirs. ;)
Omar N
11-01-2011, 06:37 PM
I already have a feature planned with mine :cool:
SeanBrown
11-01-2011, 07:04 PM
As do I
Graeme Hay
11-01-2011, 07:17 PM
A good feature or 72 minutes of something which one could call a feature?

The real question is how long until a wide release feature is in theatres shot solely with the scarlet...

My Answer: Not Long
Erich Ocean
11-01-2011, 07:19 PM
Prediction: Dec 2012 for the first film shot 100% (or nearly so) on Scarlet to get a theatrical release.

Reasoning: The film will be shot this spring, posted over the summer and hit the festival circuit in the fall. It'll win something and secure a distribution deal that specifies a theatrical release that year, in order to qualify for Academy awards buzz (for a hot actor or writer, or *maybe* a director).
Josef Gatti
11-01-2011, 07:24 PM
I have 2 features planned with Scarlet already. Definitely won't be first to the finish line, that's for sure. Agree with Erich - Earliest would be end of 2012.
Josh Beadle
11-01-2011, 07:34 PM
Joseph Hutson is wrapping his first feature "The Valley of the Dogs" shot entirely on Scarlet prototypes. It's kinda Mad Max meets To Live and Die in LA meets Spy Kids. Sorry guys - the kid is aggressive
PatrickW
11-01-2011, 07:47 PM
who cares who is first?
its better to shoot something that doesn't suck, than it is to rush to be first...
Cenydd Ros
11-01-2011, 08:16 PM
who cares who is first?
its better to shoot something that doesn't suck, than it is to rush to be first...

well said, sir
Jeff Lower
11-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Lets see, how long will it take to arrive, then shoot, and edit. Yeah, should be about that long.
Josh Beadle
11-01-2011, 08:30 PM
who cares who is first? its better to shoot something that doesn't suck, than it is to rush to be first...

Two words of career advice about the benefits of being first: Vincent Laforet
Paul Russell
11-01-2011, 09:00 PM
Mad max/live and die in la/spy kids? I want to see that!
Steve Das
11-01-2011, 09:22 PM
Two words of career advice about the benefits of being first: Vincent Laforet

...has he done a feature yet?

Much better to take your time and do it right..or at least best you can.

A bunch of people were fighting/trying to be
the first F900 feature in 2000 or so. Don't think any of them
are out there still shooting any stuff now.
Jesper Sichlau
11-01-2011, 10:57 PM
Joseph Hutson is wrapping his first feature "The Valley of the Dogs" shot entirely on Scarlet prototypes. It's kinda Mad Max meets To Live and Die in LA meets Spy Kids. Sorry guys - the kid is aggressive

For how long did he actually have that camera?


The real question is how long until a wide release feature is in theatres shot solely with the scarlet...

My Answer: Not Long

Exactly! Sure everybody have plans of doing a feature, I do too, and hopefully we will all succeed - but realisticly not many of them will get a wide release. And in the end this is what counts, because the better the film, the more realistic is it to be released through cinema. Fingers crossed for all of us.
Brian Self
11-02-2011, 09:17 AM
Yeah I have a four part film series planned for my scarlet as well. Also Would love to film a remake of seven samurai with it if I could ever get the rights.
Eric Rodemann
11-02-2011, 09:29 AM
A good feature or 72 minutes of something which one could call a feature?

The real question is how long until a wide release feature is in theatres shot solely with the scarlet...

My Answer: Not Long

I was thinking of something 72 minutes or more you could call a feature, something making the rounds of the film festivals.

Wide release? That's hard to say. No one knows when a film will be good, certainly not the writer and director. You hope they will be good, but you don't know. At least a distributor will have to think it's good before there's a wide release. That could take a while.
Eric Rodemann
11-02-2011, 09:30 AM
Joseph Hutson is wrapping his first feature "The Valley of the Dogs" shot entirely on Scarlet prototypes. It's kinda Mad Max meets To Live and Die in LA meets Spy Kids. Sorry guys - the kid is aggressive

Wow. That's sooner than I thought for sure.
Eric Rodemann
11-02-2011, 09:34 AM
who cares who is first?
its better to shoot something that doesn't suck, than it is to rush to be first...

If it's good AND you're first you get bonus publicity.

Or if it's really, really, really horrible and you're first, you get bonus publicity.

If you're first and it's just mediocre, probably won't do anything for you to be first.
Josh Beadle
11-02-2011, 09:40 AM
. . . joking about Joseph Hutson "The Valley of the Dogs" film of course but not about the marketing importance of being first to market like Vincent Laforet. From a NYT still photographer (dying trade) to the Voice of All DSLR Filmmaking in one weekend. Philip Bloom = much better filmmaker, but not an opportunist - he makes gentle art and runs the best blog for young filmmakers. Vinny is running around SoCali with the new Canon S35 and will get more famous from that starting tomorrow.
George Butterfield
11-02-2011, 09:46 AM
How long do you think it will take for someone to make a feature with the Scarlet after release?I guess you could make a feature in Ninety minutes or so, I once made a feature in Two hours.
Pascal Payant
11-02-2011, 10:02 AM
I know a lot of people will do their feature film with the Scarlet. my shooting date is this summer for a 2013 release. I wanted the red one MX but we'll see what the scarlet will be tomorrow :)
Eric Rodemann
11-02-2011, 10:34 AM
. . . joking about Joseph Hutson "The Valley of the Dogs" film of course but not about the marketing importance of being first to market like Vincent Laforet. From a NYT still photographer (dying trade) to the Voice of All DSLR Filmmaking in one weekend. Philip Bloom = much better filmmaker, but not an opportunist - he makes gentle art and runs the best blog for young filmmakers. Vinny is running around SoCali with the new Canon S35 and will get more famous from that starting tomorrow.

you got me. I was looking forward to The Valley of the Dogs.

IMO, Bloom is a good cinematographer, or DP whatever you want to call it. But I've never seen him release anything that wasn't as boring as watching paint dry. Very, very pretty framing, lighting and camera moves, of the most boring content imaginable. Oh look, here's a gorgeous shot... of an old man smoking a pipe. Wow, look at that beautiful dolly... of some bushes and a rusty wagon.

Let Tarantino direct and Bloom DP then it might get interesting.
Josh Beadle
11-02-2011, 10:45 AM
you got me. I was looking forward to The Valley of the Dogs.

IMO, Bloom is a good cinematographer, or DP whatever you want to call it. But I've never seen him release anything that wasn't as boring as watching paint dry. Very, very pretty framing, lighting and camera moves, of the most boring content imaginable. Oh look, here's a gorgeous shot... of an old man smoking a pipe. Wow, look at that beautiful dolly... of some bushes and a rusty wagon.

Let Tarantino direct and Bloom DP then it might get interesting.

Agreed on Bloom's simple, everyday content - which is exactly why he is such a great model for young fimmakers. There's a bunch of kids who have access to Mom making pasta and a GH2 or equal. But can they do this tonight?: http://vimeo.com/17062701

Zero budget+common scenarios+cheap camera can = fun little movies that are teaching points
Jesper Sichlau
11-02-2011, 10:57 AM
Agreed on Bloom's simple, everyday content - which is exactly why he is such a great model for young fimmakers. There's a bunch of kids who have access to Mom making pasta and a GH2 or equal. But can they do this tonight?: http://vimeo.com/17062701

Zero budget+common scenarios+cheap camera can = fun little movies that are teaching points

You should seriously warn people before watching this around dinner time. You can get seriously hungry by watching!
Paul Russell
11-02-2011, 11:01 AM
Mrs Bloom cooks like Keith Floyd :smile:
Josh Beadle
11-02-2011, 11:06 AM
Mrs Bloom cooks like Keith Floyd :smile:

. . . and drinkies like Keith Richards (said with respect and humor since Philip actually put in "slurp" foley for one of her later swigs)
Paul Russell
11-02-2011, 11:10 AM
Mr Floyd (decd) was well known for his tippling onscreen and off
Josh Beadle
11-02-2011, 11:12 AM
Mr Floyd (decd) was well known for his tippling onscreen and off

As a wise man once said "I don't visit with those who don't drink. They're boring and their stories suck."
Paul Russell
11-02-2011, 11:21 AM
"Never trust a man who doesn't drink" - W C Fields
John Bannister
11-02-2011, 11:27 AM
The Toll House will start shooting the minute the camera boots...test footage anyway. These are great time gentlemen, great times..
Detlev Eller
11-02-2011, 11:31 AM
who cares who is first?
its better to shoot something that doesn't suck, than it is to rush to be first...

... doesnīt suck is not enough ...

it should satisfy the creator ...
and ROCK the audiences (!) ... :-)
Josh Beadle
11-02-2011, 11:33 AM
. . . bet it will be a Porn Film. The 2/3 chip and price point is great for that!
Detlev Eller
11-02-2011, 11:36 AM
Prediction: Dec 2012 for the first film shot 100% (or nearly so) on Scarlet to get a theatrical release.

Reasoning: The film will be shot this spring, posted over the summer and hit the festival circuit in the fall. It'll win something and secure a distribution deal that specifies a theatrical release that year, in order to qualify for Academy awards buzz (for a hot actor or writer, or *maybe* a director).

FASTER!
Much faster.

... iīve got the feeling, no matter what the specs, itīs becoming the new work horse camera ...

... but we shall see in less then 110000 seconds ...

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