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JustMe
12-19-2007, 05:17 PM
what would this help?
The workflow for Mac and Assimilate is in place.

Mike McCarthy
12-20-2007, 02:25 PM
what would this help?
The workflow for Mac and Assimilate is in place.

"A" workflow for Mac and Assimilate is in place.

What other camera system only has one workflow? XDCam works in Final Cut, Vegas, AXIO, etc. If I end up to editing a project shot on Red, you can bet your life that I will not be using a Mac. That would be the first issue. Then there are people you like using Premiere, people who don't want to pay for Scratch, people who want to skip the offline process, etc. The are many reasons and ways that this would help.

Variety and selection are the basis of competition, which is almost always to the benefit of the end user. I for one, am all for Cineform going 4K.

JustMe
01-03-2008, 08:08 PM
Can David Newman Post?
Hes really been silent.

David Newman
01-03-2008, 08:30 PM
I'm back.

JustMe
01-03-2008, 08:31 PM
good to see and hear from you.

JustMe
01-03-2008, 08:34 PM
now explain why.
"what would this help?
The workflow for Mac and Assimilate is in place."

David Newman
01-03-2008, 08:38 PM
Sorry, I don't really understand the question. CineForm is just an alternative workflow, for those who don't need want to use either a Mac or Scratch finishing system. We aren't necessarily a better solution, just less expensive for those on a tight budget.

JustMe
01-03-2008, 08:40 PM
CineForm is just an alternative workflow, for those who don't need want to use either a Mac or Scratch finishing system. We aren't necessarily a better solution, just less expensive for those on a tight budget.

That is the question.
How can you , do it better?

I Bloom
01-03-2008, 08:42 PM
Cineform also has an RGB wavelet codec, which Redcode is not. So Cineform can be used as an intermediate, i.e. you can make composites or do baked on color correction and encode into cineform. In Redcode Raw that wouldn't make sense.

How might I use cineform in a FCP + Redcine world David?

Ian

David Newman
01-03-2008, 08:44 PM
Not than Scatch no, a dedicated DI will always has it advantages. That said we will do reduce the need for a finishing system for some users, but not for highend projects.

JustMe
01-03-2008, 08:45 PM
I figure CF is behind the times vs. the red codec

I Bloom
01-03-2008, 08:48 PM
I figure CF is behind the times vs. the red codec

There is no reason to think that.

David Newman
01-03-2008, 08:48 PM
How might I use cineform in a FCP + Redcine world David?

Ian

Ian, Mac stuff is being tweaked daily. At 2K 4:4:4 we are there now, it is the 4K stuff under FCP that is a little tricky. The NEO 4K for Mac is about to come out, allow 4K compositing work using the CineForm codecs. It will get better and better with time, although our primary 4K efforts will be under CS3 on the PC.

David Newman
01-03-2008, 08:50 PM
JustMe is trying to bait me, sorry I won't bite. The codec solutions are very different.

I Bloom
01-03-2008, 08:51 PM
Ian, Mac stuff is being tweaked daily. At 2K 4:4:4 we are there now, it is the 4K stuff under FCP that is a little tricky. The NEO 4K for Mac is about to come out, allow 4K compositing work using the CineForm codecs. It will get better and better with time, although our primary 4K efforts will be under CS3 on the PC.

I understand that. I'm really a newbie at Cineform so can you just give me a basic introduction if I'm an FCP user. I'm cutting Redcode proxies and conforming them using homebrew scripts at the moment.

Ian

David Newman
01-03-2008, 08:51 PM
Now can the discussions move to threads that aren't titled "David"? I'm signing off.

I Bloom
01-03-2008, 08:57 PM
Now can the discussions move to threads that are titled "David"? I'm signing off.

Eh sorry david, I didn't notice that.
I started a new thread.

Jarred Land
01-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Justme... second warning.