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Room101
12-19-2007, 07:08 PM
Hello, and season’s greetings to everyone at reduser.net

I would just like to introduce myself as another satisfied RED customer who has had the amazing experience of shooting my latest project with the RED.

While ours was a short film shot only over an 8-day period, we put the camera through a rigorous and ambitious schedule. We shot in the Midwest out of Columbus, and filmed in the greater southern Ohio region and Clinton, Tennessee. Rented from CJ Roy and let me just say to anyone looking to work with a stellar DIT who knows his RED, its CJ. (He’s also quite the talented DP, editor, and visual effects aficionado as well.) Seriously, hire this guy.

As CJ has previously mentioned, we shot most of the film exteriors in temperatures ranging from 30 degrees F, to 50, to 0. We shot in the snow, in drizzling rain, and for the most part the camera performed incredibly. No problems whatsoever with glitchy footage shot in cold temperatures. At one point our Rugged drives literally froze, but the RED kept on trucking. The largest hitch we encountered was when the power supply died on us, but Red sent us out another immediately, and we were back in action a day later. We made due in the meantime by hooking up the AC to a power converter and a car battery. Ingenuity plug for Mr. TJ Cooley our 1st AC, who always seemed to have a back-up plan for every possible contingency.

The exteriors we shot mostly with available light, and this is really where the camera is mind blowing: the handling of low light levels was incredible. Some shots (See image hsmn007 below) were almost non-viewable through the LCD screen on location. Histogram was barely reading, but we had no lights that day, we were losing the sun and had to just go for it. When looking at the dailies in Redcine after wrap, we were able to pull the entire image out of the dirt with minimal noise and I was stunned to see every shot in clear detail. Truly astonishing… (Again, my hat is off to TJ for his trusty tape-measure.)

As someone who has mostly shot on Standard/High-Def cameras like the DVX, HVX and Cine-Alta, the biggest challenge for me was simply getting my head around the shooting nuance. This is definitely not a video camera. Take your time, get the focus, respect the RED, and she’ll take you where you want to go.

This camera truly was a dream to work with. The hype is true. As most independent filmmakers with shoestring budgets can attest to, the biggest issue has always been how much bang for your buck can you get, and image quality has always been the quick dividing line between the guys with money and those who can only dream. You can get creative, and cameras over the years have been improving, but this is the first option I’ve experienced where the image looks truly awe-inspiring at a fraction of the cost. Film is fine, and will probably be around for awhile, but I certainly can't afford it. Red is for the everyman, and it allows the filmmaker to put their money up on the screen.

Thanks to Jim and his team for finally making the tools available to everyone. Now it comes back to what movie making was always about in the first place: telling a good story. We at Room 101 Productions hope you’ll enjoy ours, and we’ve included some ungraded 4K versions of the stills at the following URLs to check out in the meantime while we navigate the choppy waters of posting a RED project.

http://www.room101productions.com/4Kstills/horseman001.jpg
http://www.room101productions.com/4Kstills/horseman002.jpg
http://www.room101productions.com/4Kstills/horseman004.jpg
http://www.room101productions.com/4Kstills/horseman005.jpg
http://www.room101productions.com/4Kstills/horseman006.jpg
http://www.room101productions.com/4Kstills/horseman007.jpg
http://www.room101productions.com/4Kstills/horseman008.jpg


There will be more images and footage to come after the holidays, until then, Merry Christmas, and have a safe and happy New Year.


Ben Bays
Director/Producer
Room 101 Productions
http://www.room101productions.com/horseman.htm

Peter McCully
12-19-2007, 07:23 PM
What wonderfull images. You have done so well and it's an inspiration to rest of us. It must have been so rewarding seeing these results come from your shoot.

Jaime Vallés
12-19-2007, 07:29 PM
These look great, Ben! Your experiences during this shoot are very encouraging. I look forward to seeing the finished short. Thanks for posting!

Graeme Nattress
12-19-2007, 07:33 PM
Very nice images. I love the warm / cool contrast.

Graeme

Matthew Rogers
12-19-2007, 09:03 PM
Hey Ben, wish I had known that you were shooting up the road from me, I would have come out and helped. The images are stunning, especially when you consider that they are ungraded. Can't wait to see the final piece.

Matthew

Justin Anderson
12-19-2007, 09:09 PM
Wow. I'm stunned. Great work. How long will the film be?

BASSAM MSSALATIE
12-20-2007, 01:18 AM
Ben, ROOM 101 it is great work thanks for sharing your experience with RED
Images were very good i have never seen befor RED output like this one
but iam wondering that is when i open 4k stills versions it appear a little be softedges but when i open the same image smaller version it look's sharp?:ohmy:
:ohmy:

CJ Roy
12-20-2007, 01:18 AM
It was a great pleasure to work with everyone involved on this production. It was iron-man filmmaking at its best... and where they lacked resources, they made up for it with enthusiasm and absolute indie passion. Something that lacks a lot of productions in LA, and something that I, and the other people from LA, sorely miss.

I think the workflow, and working with 35mm DOF was a different experience for them, but after a couple days, they fell into the rhythm of it. The days had been scheduled as you would a camera with deeper DOF, not expecting the setup time, but we still managed to get our days, or close to it. Being able to output to HDSDI or HDMI and still have the Red-LCD enabled would have saved us a ton of time. RED, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, fix this.

TJ, the AC, easily became a hero on the shoot by getting focus in some really difficult situations, with no time. I can''t wait to see this crew with a budget. They're a die-hard, talented group that's going to turn heads. But hopefully they'll have more heaters on the next show, though. ;)

-CJ

steve palazzese
12-20-2007, 01:41 AM
great shots, wait to see some motion...

very nice post, thanks for sharing

steve

Sanjin Jukic
12-20-2007, 01:47 AM
Thanks.

All great!

Simon Blackledge
12-20-2007, 01:57 AM
Loving the cave shot... very nice.

BASSAM MSSALATIE
12-20-2007, 02:10 AM
It was iron-man filmmaking at its best... . ;)

-CJ

yes it is but i think the result is amazing ,you are soo good as i understand from Ben. thanks for every one who helped you.

Room101
12-20-2007, 06:53 AM
Wow. I'm stunned. Great work. How long will the film be?

The estimated final runtime will probably weigh in at a hefty 30min. It's a long short. ;-)

Room101
12-20-2007, 06:58 AM
Ben, ROOM 101 it is great work thanks for sharing your experience with RED
Images were very good i have never seen befor RED output like this one
but iam wondering that is when i open 4k stills versions it appear a little be softedges but when i open the same image smaller version it look's sharp?:ohmy:
:ohmy:

I'm not entirely sure why, and CJ can weigh in here, but the 1K versions had some work done in Photoshop, although I don't think any sharpening was done.

Adrian T.
12-20-2007, 12:09 PM
Great images! I really like them all except #6 where the blown out window and door look quite videoish.

Which lenses did you use?

PaulClements
12-20-2007, 01:35 PM
Looks great, look forward to seeing the final piece! Thanks for sharing.

Paul

Room101
12-20-2007, 05:14 PM
Great images! I really like them all except #6 where the blown out window and door look quite videoish.

Which lenses did you use?

We used Zeiss Standard Speed Prime Set 18,24,32,50,85mm.

Chris Nuzzaco
12-20-2007, 07:18 PM
How did you export those 4K grabs? I see a ton of macro blocking going on in the shadows, especially in 1 and 7. JPG 7 has it all over the place.

Nice lighting and color though.

Gavin Greenwalt
12-20-2007, 07:27 PM
Hmmm blocking is exactly the same in the (propper gamma) small attachment and in the (off gamma probably from quicktime) 4k. So I'm going to say he must have compressed to something other than redcode. I highly doubt that's from in camera.

Harva Raj
12-20-2007, 08:53 PM
We used Zeiss Standard Speed Prime Set 18,24,32,50,85mm.

how much does these lens set cost?

Radoslav Karapetkov
12-21-2007, 12:15 PM
Beautiful pictures, Mr. Orwell ;).

Manfred Lopez
12-21-2007, 01:34 PM
Great images!

I have a question. If you shot in southern Ohio does that mean you guys are based there? I couldn't find the info on your website.

jtcoleman
12-22-2007, 03:13 PM
Hello, and season’s greetings to everyone at reduser.net

I would just like to introduce myself as another satisfied RED customer who has had the amazing experience of shooting my latest project with the RED.

While ours was a short film shot only over an 8-day period, we put the camera through a rigorous and ambitious schedule. We shot in the Midwest out of Columbus, and filmed in the greater southern Ohio region and Clinton, Tennessee. Rented from CJ Roy and let me just say to anyone looking to work with a stellar DIT who knows his RED, its CJ. (He’s also quite the talented DP, editor, and visual effects aficionado as well.) Seriously, hire this guy.

Ben Bays
Director/Producer
Room 101 Productions
http://www.room101productions.com/horseman.htm

Hey Ben,

First off, thanks for posting this -- really interesting and great looking scenes.

Would you mind sharing a bit of information on your lighting setup? I'm curious as to the types and variety of the lights that you used, reflector cards, etc. How much natural lighting did you take advantage of?

Thanks!

JT
Austin, Texas
Red #396

GlennChan
12-22-2007, 03:43 PM
Looks awesome!

Jan Reiff
12-23-2007, 03:00 AM
now we are talking ...

one of the best stuff posted here

Milan Nikolic
12-23-2007, 03:52 AM
Tanks for sharing. Great work!

albert rudnicki
12-24-2007, 11:19 AM
Beautiful and inspiring
Thanks for sharing
&
Marry Christmas

Alexander Nikishin
12-25-2007, 12:39 AM
Great looking stuff Ben!

It's a shame I couldn't make it out for the shoot.......

Hope to work together the next time you have a project on the burner!

Videoteque73
12-25-2007, 01:52 AM
Congratulations!!!!!

Great stills!!! :tongue:

David Brillhart
12-25-2007, 03:15 AM
Sweet. Appreciate you taking the time to post these. Helps remind me why I'm perched at the edge of this precipice. Nice work CJ.

Ricardo Mehedff
12-25-2007, 05:11 AM
very cool stills!! it's great to see real stills from a narrative shoot... really don't get alot of those here....