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Scott Webster
12-20-2007, 04:56 PM
This the final result from this shoot (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5627)

A TV ident for C4 TV (http://www.c4tv.co.nz/) here in New Zealand and on air now.

Production Company: Flying Fish (http://www.flyingfish.co.nz)
Director: Mark Trethewey
DP: Donald Duncan (http://www.showreelfinder.co.nz/name/Donald_Duncan/)

Sorry for the small file size but everyone is gone....

C4 Where Music Lives (http://www.flyingfish.co.nz/newsite/pages/video.php?id=372)

That's it for Red 23. Everyone have a great holiday season and we look forward to bringing you more from Red 23.x in 2008

Graeme Nattress
12-20-2007, 05:08 PM
I'm getting an error on trying to play the movie - is it meant to be 6.3MB?

Graeme

Matthew Rogers
12-20-2007, 05:11 PM
.mov file doesn't work for me:(

Matthew

Scott Webster
12-20-2007, 05:15 PM
Sorry, have linked through to Mark's show reel sample instead

http://www.flyingfish.co.nz/newsite/pages/video.php?id=372 (http://www.flyingfish.co.nz/newsite/pages/video.php?id=372)

Graeme Nattress
12-20-2007, 05:19 PM
Thanks a lot!

Graeme

Gavin Greenwalt
12-20-2007, 07:22 PM
Out of curiosity why blue?

Miltos Pilalitos
12-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Out of curiosity why blue?

Don't you see all the green plants?

Stephen Williams
12-21-2007, 12:27 AM
Don't you see all the green plants?

Hi,

Why Blue or Green when a simple mask would work? You will have to paint mattes for overlaps in any case.

Stephen

Miltos Pilalitos
12-21-2007, 06:00 AM
Hi,

Why Blue or Green when a simple mask would work? You will have to paint mattes for overlaps in any case.

Stephen

A simple mask? Oh my God! Obviously you have never done 10 hours of rotoscoping for one week to know what it feels like :-)

The masking for the performer's overlapping is indeed not very complicated but the background replacement around the set is. If they didn't use the blue screen they would need a dedicated rotoscoping department like ILM's to finish the video in our lifetimes and that would certainly cost a little bit more! :-)

Greg M
12-21-2007, 07:45 AM
Hi,

Why Blue or Green when a simple mask would work? You will have to paint mattes for overlaps in any case.

Stephen

Stephen you are funny.

Stephen Williams
12-21-2007, 08:01 AM
Stephen you are funny.

Hi,

10 years ago I shot a £400,000 tv commercial, we did many tests and shooting for real produced the best results. Every VFX guy's comment 'Amazing Green Screen', there was none! LOL

Stephen

Stephen Williams
12-21-2007, 01:58 PM
Stephen you are funny.

Greg,

Thinking about this a bit more, the vast majority of blue or green screen shots are not perfect, one can usually see a softened edge or lost hair here & there.

But then again I shoot mainly on film as it usually looks better, VFX & CG guys prefer digital because it's easier. I am interested in better, not easier or cheaper.

YMMV

Stephen

Greg M
12-21-2007, 02:05 PM
Greg,

I am interested in better, not easier or cheaper.





arent we all?

but usually its a combo of both...no question though that a green screen would make life alot easier on this shot, it would still require roto work. To expect to roto that entire scene w/o the aid of a gs would be a nightmare.

Stephen Williams
12-21-2007, 02:44 PM
arent we all?

but usually its a combo of both...no question though that a green screen would make life alot easier on this shot, it would still require roto work. To expect to roto that entire scene w/o the aid of a gs would be a nightmare.

From what I often see on the screen, I am not sure!

Quite often a soft edge wipe will be enough, on the job 10 years ago 4 weeks of post was budgeted for, it was completed in 4 days it was way easier than expected.

Stephen

Zach Hilton
12-22-2007, 09:19 AM
From what I often see on the screen, I am not sure!

Quite often a soft edge wipe will be enough, on the job 10 years ago 4 weeks of post was budgeted for, it was completed in 4 days it was way easier than expected.

Stephen

Can you show us the spot? I'd be interested in seeing it to see what you are talking about.

Stephen Williams
12-22-2007, 09:39 AM
Can you show us the spot? I'd be interested in seeing it to see what you are talking about.

Hi,

Sorry I don't have a copy anymore (the one I had was on Umatic!), its a bit old for you tube so it will be hard to find.

Stephen