Young Bald Eagle...

[Jannard]

Even they don't go bald until they get older...

Jim

http://red.cachefly.net/video/2KYoungEagle.mov

[Matt Uhry]

Holy Sh*t that's a great shot. I'm trying to imagine it on a 40ft screen, I think I would dive for cover under my seat... Santa brought you some eagles and a fresh carcass, what else could you really get for a guy who has 5 Reds, a jet with a groovy paint job, and a 959 ?

Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com

[IAN SUN]

Jim that's incredibly sharp, have you looked at any of this at 4K? I love this stuff.

Did you leave the camera setup pointing out the window and waiting for an opportunity? If so, is that eagle bait?

[david farland]

Good thoughtful piece on the way of the world.

I hear those crows don't wait for the lambs to die before picking their eyes out. Nice metaphor for the corporate world too....

Dave

[Elizabeth]

You do not seem to have any shortage of eagles where you are ... but if you are interested in the Alaskan wildlife, my partner and I run trips in the Katmai area.

e.

[Seth Larney]

Great work Jim ! So sharp..

[Erik Bien]

That's twice now something you've shot has made me spontaneously exclaim "F#@k me!" (you'll just have to imagine the long, drawn-out F-word; I can't seem to figure out how to replicate it in print).

Not only have you brought one amazing camera into existence, but you really know how to use the bloody thing.

[Phil McCarty]

Honestly, I'm a little creeped out.

Sure, maybe the tripod just happened to be ready. Maybe the distance just happened to be perfectly measured. Fine. All that blood and all that fur from the carcass just happened to be on the front door at RED?

Stop killing s@#t. We know it takes good pictures.

It's a slippery slope boys and girls and we're all going to be guilty when we start seeing really great footage of so called natural disasters, car wrecks, and murder scenes.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. And where there's 4k footage of grisly deaths and murder scenes there's you know who.
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[EDIT: In case it isn't clear. I am jokingly implying that Jim kills lambs in order to bait eagles for quality pictures. I really don't think that he would kill a lamb, or cause a natural disaster, or a car wreck, or murder someone for a red promo. Promise. Sorry, it's late.]

[Phil McCarty]

Holy Sh*t that's a great shot. , what else could you really get for a guy who has 5 Reds, a jet with a groovy paint job, and a 959

A plausible alibi.

My friend's cousin's neighbors daughter is the great niece of someone who sat next to him during the first Hannibal Lecter movie. Said that during the infamous scene "Do you still hear them crying? You tried to save just one, didn't you, Clarice." He said, and I quote "What a load of crap." and started laughing, uncontrollably.

True story.

"I live out here in in the wilderness, just me, my girl, and no one for miles and miles. No one. Not a soul. Not a single person who might theoretically call the ASPCA, just making conversation. No one except these lambs I guess. But that's becoming less of a problem." - Guess who.
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[EDIT: Also. This silence of the lambs joke, is not supposed to be real, either]

[number6]

Honestly, I'm a little creeped out.



Stop killing s@#t. We know it takes good pictures.

It's a slippery slope boys and girls and we're all going to be guilty when we start seeing really great footage of so called natural disasters, car wrecks, and murder scenes.

Where there's smoke, there's fire. And where there's 4k footage of grisly deaths and murder scenes there's you know who.

I agree... eagles should not be allowed to eat animals. There was a fledgling hawk around my house that had been kicked out to fly by his mom, no less. I've read if they don't catch and eat prey within a short period of time, they wither and die from lack of strength. The last time I saw the little predator bastard, he was gettin' pretty skinny. HAH! HAH! HAH! I thought.

[Jannard]

1520... what the hell are you talking about? Vivid imagination, though...

A lot of people out here (middle of next-to-nowhere) know the history here. Pretty classic. Sometime (different forum) I'll share. But for now, I guess you are left to your imagination. I'll certainly stop posting "Planet Earth" stuff if it really bothers you. BTW, isn't "Planet Earth" G-rated?

Jim

[dudeman]

Jim, keep posting wildlife footage, it tides me over until I get my camera in the next batch.

[Phil McCarty]

1520... what the hell are you talking about? Vivid imagination, though...

A lot of people out here (middle of next-to-nowhere) know the history here. Pretty classic. Sometime (different forum) I'll share. But for now, I guess you are left to your imagination. I'll certainly stop posting "Planet Earth" stuff if it really bothers you. BTW, isn't "Planet Earth" G-rated?

Jim

1-5 (Couldn't Resist) I was just joking! The footage is stellar, of course, but when I saw the second picture I had this sudden vivid image of you dragging lamb carcasses around to bait the Eagles.* And I started laughing, and thought maybe someone else would get a kick out of it too. Sorry, without intonation I guess it came off as serious (even the natural disasters though?).

*You know, footage of Don Henley tearing at a carcass. If that won't sell cameras nothing will.

[Jannard]

OK. I feel better (I almost cancelled your order). There is a very interesting story about this island that includes John Wayne. Someday I'll spill the beans. No harm was done to any animals for this shoot. The animals here all die of natural causes, are eagle food, or sold to a market nearest you as prime rib... or cat food.



Jim

[Shawn Nelson]

OK. I feel better (I almost cancelled your order). There is a very interesting story about this island that includes John Wayne. Someday I'll spill the beans. No harm was done to any animals for this shoot. The animals here all die of natural causes, are eagle food, or sold to a market nearest you as prime rib... or cat food.

Jim

You'll spill the beans about everything, including the bomb shelter and the buried F-4??

Because that's exactly what I'd have on my own island :-)

[Simon Blackledge]

Nice.. is this all at 300mm ?

Any 75fps shots? :)

s

[RivaiC]

Beautiful Eagle. You can sell this shot, Jim. Very nice

What lens do you use for this ?

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

Even without color grading it looks very good killing sharpness .wooow:whistling: is it the new mount ..:biggrin:

[Shawn Nelson]

My scanning batch job ended so now I finally watched it....kick ass!! Dang, that is one fun shot.

I grew up in a big family, I completely relate to this fellow :-)

[Sanjin Jukic]

Amazing shot Jim.

Also hope that people here and beyond this forum would get the value of a metaphor that this shot has and the meaning that it can create.

It's about "The Medium is the Message" by Marshall McLuhan.

Read more:

"What is the Meaning of The Medium is the Message?">>>LINK (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=123297&postcount=9)

Quote:

"A McLuhan message always tells us to look beyond the obvious and seek the non-obvious changes or effects that are enabled, enhanced, accelerated or extended by the new thing...

McLuhan warns us that we are often distracted by the content of a medium (which, in almost all cases, is another distinct medium in itself.) He writes, "it is only too typical that the "content" of any medium blinds us to the character of the medium." (McLuhan 9) And it is the character of the medium that is its potency or effect - its message. In other words, "This is merely to say that the personal and social consequences of any medium - that is, of any extension of ourselves - result from the new scale that is introduced into our affairs by each extension of ourselves, or by any new technology." "

http://www.gingkopress.com/_cata/_mclu/img/mclsta-m.jpg
Marshall McLuhan

Hope is that people here would study the medium and the message>>LINK (http://individual.utoronto.ca/markfederman/article_mediumisthemessage.htm).

Also have a look at this questionaries>>LINK (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=123297&postcount=9)

[Desert Rune]

1520, please leave jokes to the professionals. I didn't need to read that. :sheep:

[Justin Anderson]

I'll certainly stop posting "Planet Earth" stuff if it really bothers you. BTW, isn't "Planet Earth" G-rated?

Jim

Keep posting wildlife footage!!! It's a great demonstration of the camera and it's really nice work on your part. Keep on gunnin'. :gun:

[Paolo Tinari]

Amazing shot Jim.

Also hope that people here and beyond this forum would get the value of a metaphor that this shot has and the meaning that it can create.

It's about "The Medium is the Message" by Marshall McLuhan.

Read more:

"What is the Meaning of The Medium is the Message?" (http://individual.utoronto.ca/markfederman/article_mediumisthemessage.htm)

Quote:

"A McLuhan message always tells us to look beyond the obvious and seek the non-obvious changes or effects that are enabled, enhanced, accelerated or extended by the new thing...

McLuhan warns us that we are often distracted by the content of a medium (which, in almost all cases, is another distinct medium in itself.) He writes, "it is only too typical that the "content" of any medium blinds us to the character of the medium." (McLuhan 9) And it is the character of the medium that is its potency or effect - its message. In other words, "This is merely to say that the personal and social consequences of any medium - that is, of any extension of ourselves - result from the new scale that is introduced into our affairs by each extension of ourselves, or by any new technology." "

http://www.gingkopress.com/_cata/_mclu/img/mclsta-m.jpg
Marshall McLuhan

Hope is that people here would study the medium and the message.

zzzz...

(sorry, i couldnt resist...)

[Rudi Herbert]

OK. I feel better (I almost cancelled your order).

LOL, better not piss off the "Eagle Baiter Extraordinaire" or you'll be getting your deposit back (with a 10% interest still?)

That does look amazing, very, very sharp, what beautiful creature. If I keep on seeing such great images from the RED leses, I think I'll be forced to buy the 18-50 and the 50-150. I can live with the quirky mechanicals....

[Phil McCarty]

OK. I feel better (I almost cancelled your order)

Yeah you seemed sort of upset, The next footage would've been of a carcass holding a receipt that said "#1520", I guess. Next time(?) I'll throw in a couple of emoticons to soften the blow.

(or maybe next time I'll write something a little more along the lines of "Awesome Footage! What lens did you use?" A popular, but less entertaining response (apparently just to me. What no Monty Python fans here?)).

http://www.reduser.net/forum/images/redsmilies/spidy.gif

Ugh, I tried throwing in an emoticon, and I get HTML. That's pretty funny, too. To me.

[Sanjin Jukic]

zzzz...

(sorry, i couldnt resist...)

Paolo what does it mean exactly "zzzz" in your replay to my posts second time exactly?

I do not want to make any further opinion/conclusion before I ask you directly for the answer about that...?!!!

[jbeale]

Next time(?) I'll throw in a couple of emoticons to soften the blow.

I'm wondering if there is a generational difference in how people use online user forums. Where the older generation treats it more like old-fashioned paper letters and writes more to communicate, and the younger crowd treats it more like an online chat room and writes more for amusement. (?) :unsure:

[number6]

I'm wondering if there is a generational difference in how people use online user forums. Where the older generation treats it more like old-fashioned paper letters and writes more to communicate, and the younger crowd treats it more like an online chat room and writes more for amusement. (?) :unsure:

yes.?

[planet e]

another fantastic shot. that crow tentatively pecking at the kill while the eagle is distracted is priceless.

jim, what are you using to stablize the 300mm? this footage seems too stable to be hand-held (plus that's a big load...) but seems to have a little more play than the typical tripod shot.

you should check out this short video that my friend shot with his XL H1 with a long lens. he's an outstanding shooter, and it's a great camera. he shot a very, very nice short film with it, similar to what jim is showing us. but comparing the two sets of images shows just how great the RED is....

http://www.uwolchallenge.com/challenge2/PJN_UC2_corvuscorax.mov

p.s. jim, when you get some free time (arr arr), you should sign up for one of our Challenges....you could win a hundred bucks and a t-shirt...

[david farland]

Paolo,
You sound a excellent man of few words, well letters really...so help me out here, who actually said,
"If you want to send a message, call Western Union"...was it Goldwyn or Mayer? More than happy for you to write ggggg or mmmm.

Cheers,

[Phil McCarty]

I'm wondering if there is a generational difference in how people use online user forums. Where the older generation treats it more like old-fashioned paper letters and writes more to communicate, and the younger crowd treats it more like an online chat room and writes more for amusement. (?) :unsure:

There's a chance of that, but I also think that's a fairly extreme reduction. The way a person might carry themselves in a "ProLife vs ProChoice" thread might vary differently from the "Holy Crap did you see I am Legend?!" thread, regardless of which generation they happen to fall into. A number of other variables also kick in, such as the time of the post, their emotional state, the post they are responding to, etc etc.

I kind of go back and forth myself. If I find that if the messages are overwhelmingly of type a, even if my instinct was to respond "a", then I would go with "b", just to minimize redundancy, if that makes any sense. If, for example, everyone had made jokes in this thread, I would've stopped and pointed out "Hey, in case you missed it, that's a really phenomenal shot. Isn't it interesting that someone who clearly appreciates technology also has a similar appreciation for nature? How rare is that?" But that perspective is overwhelmingly present, and would just register as a blip on anyone's radar, if at all. So instead I'm like "I wonder if I can make a couple complete strangers laugh." (or, apparently, irk one. But, that wasn't the intent).

I just did a quick re-scan of this particular thread, just to see what the break down was from the inciting (!) post.

There were
9 posts which all said essentially the same thing ("Great Shot")
4 more that said "Great shot" with a minor technical question
4 entertainment messages
7 post-entertainment fall-out messages
1 Super Serious The Message and the Medium message
3 post Super Serious fallouts.

What does this information tell us?

Nothing really.

But it was vaguely interesting for a split second.

(which category does this fall under?)

[Jannard]

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_zzzface.jpg

[Shawn Nelson]

Wow!

What was your f-stop?

[Sanjin Jukic]

Great message Jim.

Unbelievable quality shot!

That's all about RED ONE!

[Jannard]

Wow!

What was your f-stop?

I slowly worked my way close to this guy with my inconspicuous 300mm... shot 4K, 24fps, 1/60th shutter, about f8, from about 12'. He got nervous (finally) and flew off after I grabbed about 10 seconds of footage. His buddies were screaming at him to "get the hell out of there"...

I have to wonder how many people have been 12' from a bald eagle...

Jim

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_zzzface2.jpg

[Sanjin Jukic]

12' from a bald eagle...umglaublich!!

[david farland]

He's still got you 1-0 on the vision system.

[Rudi Herbert]

I slowly worked my way close to this guy with my inconspicuous 300mm... shot 4K, 24fps, 1/60th shutter, about f8, from about 12'.

Jim,

Any sharpening, contrast or color correction applied or is this pure RAW? And were you hauling your inconspicous tripod as well or was it hand held? I like these images really, what can I say, they look beautiful. That RED glass ain't half bad....

[Jannard]

I had a tripod along with the 300mm... wish I could have handheld this! This eagle was either very brave or very naive. Or maybe just a ham.

All I did in post was to add a bit of saturation and a curve. I'll post a movie of this close-up pretty soon. The RAW file is always flat. Actually, when I grade the clip, I'm going to add less of a curve and saturation. These are a bit much.

Jim

[Tonaci Tran]

Amazing images Jim. Forget Planet Earth HD. It's about Planet RED 4k.

[Blair S. Paulsen]

When I am "popping" images in Red Alert for on set looky-loos I tend to have a similar curve and saturation push to Jim's, it sells. After everyone walks away I give it a tweak to regain shadow detail by nudging the curve (mostly around the toe), then I scrub to a colorful frame and dial back the satch until it looks dull, then come back north a smidge - bingo.

FWIW I think you want to show off the wonderful subtlety and smooth transitions the RedOne is capable of and trust that when displayed large any in focus shot should stand up for itself without an aggressive curve. YMMV.

Obviously stylistic grades are a separate discussion, this is about making the image full and rich for easy finishing.

[Häakon]

Jim,

Absolutely emotional, stunning images.

[Paolo Tinari]

Paolo what does it mean exactly "zzzz" in your replay to my posts second time exactly?

I do not want to make any further opinion/conclusion before I ask you directly for the answer about that...?!!!

I was just pitching all of us in a room sharing this very emotional footage, eagles, carcasses, desert island and you standing up to analyze metaphors, citing thinkers... and me snoring (zzz...)

It is not my intention to offend you and i dont think you brought boring arguments, it`s all up in my head and this image made me laugh.
Please consider I would do this only to a friend as i think you are after all this time together on this space. Even thou, as we say in Rome "we never had a coffe together..."

[Sanjin Jukic]

Paolo,

I can understand what you think.

Hope my "analysis" did not disturb you so much.

By the way I am more often in the northen Italy (Milan, Venice, Florence and Tuscany) than in Rome.

If ever you pass Vienna I could invite you for an excellent Italian espresso and of course for a chat about RED.

Buon Natale!

[Larry McKee]

That close up is incredible. What's cool about shooting in 4K is you can print out that image and hang it on your wall.

[Jannard]

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_sideface.jpg

[Adrian T.]

Awesome stills! Thanks for sharing them, Jim.

[Christian Edwards]

WOW! the focus tapers of nicely and with the stark contrasting DOF! The outstanding sharpnesses and clarity really leaves a vivid impression !!! great blend of contrast ratio and colour!!! I'm really digging this digital absorption:-)

[mdo]

Amazing! Really looking forward to the moving pictures.

Crisp focus. Were you using EVF or LCD, and did Greame's focus assist help?

[Jannard]

I used a RED LCD and Graeme's MF.

Jim

[Brian Ferguson]

I live in Irvine across the street from UCI and on Friday morning on my way to the parking lot, a Hawk had a blackbird or crow between his talons. He just burst out of a bush next to me and flew across the street with plenty of black bird buddies hounding him to get him to let go. You don't have to be in the wilds to see nature at its raw form. Startled the crap out of me.

[Jannard]

It appears to me that when there is plenty of food around, the eagles and ravens get along pretty well. But there is no question that one eagle is the boss of 30 ravens. Interesting how that works...

Jim

[david farland]

Yes...I've noticed how they let them...

Dave

[planet e]

saw the most beautiful lone coyote yesterday in a valley near my home. he must be finding some good things to eat this summer. his tail was fat and glossy. handsome fella.

c'mon RED...jump in my Christmas stocking....

these pictures almost make me want to sell my dSLRs--finally a camera that offers the best of both worlds.

[Tom Lowe]

Really nice, Jim! The detail and clarity is beautiful at 2K.

Any CCing done to this?

[Ash Bolland]

It appears to me that when there is plenty of food around, the eagles and ravens get along pretty well. But there is no question that one eagle is the boss of 30 ravens. Interesting how that works...

Jim


Hello Jim!

Great Shots! Im excited.

Just got a quick question - Ive also checked out your dragstrip shots also.

When shooting these -Did you just rock up pull your cam out and shot away?

As what im getting at is.. is it pretty easy to jam with in everyday sitautions? - people reaction ok with it etc..

As with not being film expense - be a great camera to experiment with - go for a walk/ drive shoot random urban/nature/people

Like with a 5d/1d etc..

Be nice to know your thoughts..

Thanks

Ash

[REDHKSC]

It appears to me that when there is plenty of food around, the eagles and ravens get along pretty well. But there is no question that one eagle is the boss of 30 ravens. Interesting how that works...

Jim

Jim, may I say that RED one Camera head ( Not Bald though !!! ) can make those eagles and ravens clam down a bit ; fair enough for you to shooot them in a peaceful way with you Love and tenderness, and I'm sure you have got the positive thinking in front of them to show their real Live in nearly 5K digital picture.

I am looking forward in using my 1st RED one to capture an young elephant with 30 hungary lions surrounding him. Again, it's real too, same like your shots in another side of the world " Dead Cow " eaten by Eagles plus 30 ravnes.

Cheers,

Stewart

[Jannard]

Hello Jim!

As what im getting at is.. is it pretty easy to jam with in everyday sitautions? - people reaction ok with it etc..

As with not being film expense - be a great camera to experiment with - go for a walk/ drive shoot random urban/nature/people

Like with a 5d/1d etc..

Be nice to know your thoughts..

Thanks

Ash

Shooting a RED ONE is not as easy as shooting a Canon 5D. It is a different experience. More like shooting an Arri 235. Stripped down, handheld is easy (but not like a DSLR). Loaded up, bring a tripod.

The images are worth the effort.

Jim

[Sanjin Jukic]

Shooting a RED ONE is not as easy as shooting a Canon 5D. It is a different experience. More like shooting an Arri 235. Stripped down, handheld is easy (but not like a DSLR). Loaded up, bring a tripod.

The images are worth the effort.

Jim

I've read that RED is a digital camera with the resolution of 65 mm film camera.

Also I have got impression that RED is like a certain film stock with 320 ASA.

So those two main things somebody could consider the most in a shooting with RED:

1. High resolution

and

2. Taking care to shoot 320 ASA moving images.

If you get to deal with both of that things from the beginning then you could get the most of the cam's value.

To conclude is to say that RED is a (PURE) film (MOVIE) camera that records digital (4K).

By the way you don't need D.I. in post.

You are already there (D.I.) from the beginning on.

Also if you need more like a "dynamic range" then get the fastest lens(es) as you can afford.

If you could "construct and build" Leica M mount for RED than you would get

KING OF THE NIGHT or SOMETHING BRIGHTER THAN THE HUMAN EYE

LEICA NOCTILUX-M 50 mm f/1:

"The Noctilux transmits light more effectively than even the human eye,
and as the world's first production f/1.0 lens for 35 mm photography,
it represents a landmark in the history of photography. Its outstanding
contrast sensitively differentiates subtle colors and its precise resolution
displays the finest of textures, even in highly unfavorable light. Maximum
correction for aberrations such as coma means that it delivers virtually
bleed-free reproduction of point light sources. This lens opens up to
photographers a unique and fascinating pictorial language. It is not only
outstandingly well suited to shooting in dim light, but also for night shots
without flash. The light from a candle is sufficient to produce outstanding
results. Specific image areas can be highlighted by means of its very shallow
depth of field at full aperture. In the soft-focus zones, this causes outlines to
dissolve into an almost abstract aesthetic of shapes and colors."

http://www.leica-camera.us/assets/media/img1529.jpg
Santa Cruz, Harbor-side restaurant.

QUOTE>>LINK>> (http://www.leica-camera.us/photography/m_system/lenses/465.html)

By the way Roger Deakins, ASC, BSC, like a "BIG HIT" cinematographer of 2007 year

of course uses

LEICA M lenses for his still photo work>>>LINK>>> (http://www.rogerdeakins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=69)

PHOTO and CINEMA (TOGRAPHY) is about the same thing.

And RED can have a chance to show it soon.

http://homepage.mac.com/sanjinjukic/RED/CF_CARD_pocket.jpg

RED 4K moving images in your pocket.

[Steve Sherrick]

Jim,

Still interested in selling some of the eagle footage? Have a potential buyer in place. Contact me offline and let me know if you got some more good stuff out there. They are very serious about any kind of eagle footage they can get their hands on.

Steve

[Roberto B]

would you like to be in touch w/ "the", humm?.. :huh: good try :)

[number6]

I live in Irvine across the street from UCI and on Friday morning on my way to the parking lot, a Hawk had a blackbird or crow between his talons. He just burst out of a bush next to me and flew across the street with plenty of black bird buddies hounding him to get him to let go. You don't have to be in the wilds to see nature at its raw form. Startled the crap out of me.

Hey bri(an?)ferg(uson?), I know what you mean. I heard a thump outside a window and drew the curtains to see a sparrow hawk with an English sparrow in its claw. The hawk was dangling, head doun, while the sparrow was lodged in a crotch of a bush limb. I grabbed my camera and rushed outside to video it and noticed the hawk was only groggy and was coming around.

About that time my dog came around the house and I had to distract the dog so the hawk could make a clean getaway. I noticed later that the hawk left its sparrow behind.

Regretted missing the recovery and subsequent fly away of the little hawk, but was more disappointed in a story told over the holidays.

A woman at our family gathering told how one morning she heard this noise on her roof after a recent snowfall and "rushed outside to see what was the matter." And what to her wondering eyes should appear, but a bunch of squirrels running across the peak of her roof and sliding doun the snow-covered shingles on their bellies. All she was interested in doing was rail at the squirrels for being on her roof. (sigh)

That's the stuff they used to draw cartoons about.

[Denis Buhot]

Hi Jim, this is Denis, from France... Great eagle shots, I wonder the distance, and the lens. I ordered your monster for wildlife cinematography purpose.. 2 K at hand with heavy long still nikon lenses, 400m and over, it seems... Please bring booting time even shorter... My next subject will be what's never been done on golden eagles. I've been dreaming of such an instrument like that my life long, but I don't really care falling short of power in a hide halfway up a 400 ft sheer cliff !
Incidentally, you've got a style and a vista of your own, and you make me think that when it comes to future, it's ridiculously naive to be cynical... This should be remembered by Sony. To me, some very new way to achieve things, market products and make win/win business has been proven here. I'm a pure indie, it's not even my full time job and I don't really care about tv...the market is that big ! You might well do for movie making what Henry Ford did to automobile !
Thank's for all, and for giving us what America has in all times been great for... Enthusiasm, dedication, straightforward information and so on... from which we borrow so little here, I'm afraid. And you must be some leader, and a man of unusual stuff... We French say "chapeau" (meaning we take off our hats :-) ) DB

[Eugene]

I wish my shots were half as good as Jim's. Oh yeah, and I wish I had the balls to walk up to a big eagle and not crap my pants. I took this shot of a harpy eagle from behind the safety of a wire cage. I need to grow a sack and get a RED. My equipment is so weak.