RED Knowledge Tree

[david farland]

Suggestion: Library/forum for RED camera operation, list of accessories, post-production techniques/workflows, production procedures in one easy to use location with index.

Any ideas for table of contents and format?

RED user guide will cover off the camera but what about:

• List of peripherals for camera at various price/quality levels.
• Typical post-production workflows with products & procedures for various formats.
• Production techniques when working with RED.

Ideas?

DF

[Ken Corben]

I'm sure Gibby's pending Summer release of The Red User's Manifesto or How The Hell does This Work? available on DVD through Amazon will address most of these questions?

[Steve Gibby]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure...except with my crammed schedule it would have to be named "How the Hell Did I Do This Work?"

[david farland]

Gibby,
Are you planning to create something similiar?

I expect there is a wealth of experience from others(not least yourself) on this forum that could add advice on RED production and post-production techniques & equipment.

A lot of this stuff is already on this forum (or other) and it's a matter of pulling together.

I think it's a good idea to structure this information if only to give it form so others may provide suggestions, content etc, that may help you or augment what you or others may be doing as a private venture!
I'd be happy to pay $100 for a 'hands on' DVD that talks in detail about practicalities of using the RED camera and post workflows. But I also think there is a lot more information out there which hasn't been collected into one location, that one person can assemble into a coherent digestable DVD or book under 100,000 pages!
So I'd also like to see a more broad but structured RED knowledge base which covers general techniques, recommended equipment, range of post processes, opinions etc.

DF

[Alexander Nikishin]

Barry Green will be on it I'm sure.

[GlennChan]

To add some speculation here (you gotta love speculation), I'm sure the Red team has some sort of Red instructional material that they're working on.

As far as what peripherals are good, I think this forum serves that purpose.

[Brook Willard]

The camera will come with an instruction manual.

[Mark Thorpe]

Noooooooo........we want Gibby to make the manual. In fact I just wanna see the 'Behind the Scenes' featurette of the books evolution and as Gibby goes crazy bollocks trying to juggle the workload.......that will be good for a laugh 'me ol' china' .. will look something like this :ranting2:

[Phil Becque]

Hi Folks,

As much I think Gibby would do a brilliant job given the time - I think we need something more like a 'living document' - errmm a set of WEB pages with links to other collateral - like posts on this forum perhaps?

My point is that RED usage, post work flows and peripherals are going to evolve and change rapidly over the next two years. As great as this forum is - much of the useful information is fragmented over many thousands of posts. And then as a further refinement - on top of useful there is relevant. Not all useful information will be relevant to a given specific task or flow.

As far as WEB hosting is concerned there is Open Mute which provides free services to non-profit organisations like us ;)

http://www.openmute.org/

The beauty of this approach is that the current moderators of this site could easily and quickley put up links, articles, lens reports, diagrams and work flows . In effect although anyone can post to an open mute site - the moderators filter the material to make sure the site doesn't get abused and end up as a pile of crap.

I think a good starting point for structure would be the catagories we already have on this site e.g. RED ONE, 4K Workflows, Lens Tests, and then add Peripherals to that. Obviously you can have more structure under each main topic. e.g.

4K Workflows:
Apple Mac
Windows
Linux

As fantastically useful as I think this resource would be - this is all a significant amount of work - and it's all to easy for someone like me to voluteer other peoples time without checking with them first - it may be that we are just expecting too much from each other??

All the best, Phil

[Steve Gibby]

Thank you for the kind words and suggestions!

If I didn't have a full schedule of productions and travel for this year, writing a user manual for RED One is something that I'd really enjoy doing. I love to write. I've scripted television programs throughout my career, and I currently write tech review and feature articles for several magazines.

A good guide + DVD for RED One would require months of fulltime effort - something that would be impossible for me this year. RED Team has mentioned that they have some kind of user guide planned. This RED User forum is, and will continue to be, a great source of information on the technology and use of RED One and its accessories.

An open forum user community like RED User is the best source of real-world user information on a product. That said, it would be way cool if, as some have suggested on this thread, RED User somehow aggregated a concise appendix of RED Team and RED user input for the various categories of usage and accessories for RED One. The search tool is one way to solve that, but even that method turns up a broad array of threads, rather than a concise summary of explanations and tips.

Jarred does a great job with RED User, and RED Team always takes the time to provide input on this forum. This is now a worldwide community. If we continue to take the time to contribute knowledge and experience, it will thrive.

We, the everyday users of RED One on the set, and on location, will write the real “user guide” as we create productions in the many genres enabled by RED One, and share feedback on our experiences in doing so. The RED guide that ships with the camera will probably define the tech, use, and workflow of RED One - but feedback from real world use of RED One will be what builds the knowledge base outward from there.

2007 will be a fun year, don't you think?

[PaulClements]

Jarred mentioned that a Wiki will be started and hosted here at RedUser some point in the future, I dare say it will cover most of the experiences and issues that arise from having a RedOne. I think all of us can handle loading it up and pressing print so we have a hard copy :) and the familiarity of a Wiki knowledge base will make it easy and simple for everyone to use, and if Jarred doesn't get round to doing it, hell I'll do it for him :)

[Zakaree Sandberg]

im sure there will be a red bootcamp in hawaii all expenses paid by red.. right?

[Hrvoje Simic]

2007 will be a fun year, don't you think?


Oh yeah.

[Jared VanLeuven]

Jarred mentioned that a Wiki will be started and hosted here at RedUser some point in the future, I dare say it will cover most of the experiences and issues that arise from having a RedOne... :)

How 'bout a GibbyWiki? uh, a WikiGibby? a Gikky?

*goes back to work*

[Steve Gibby]

How 'bout a GibbyWiki? uh, a WikiGibby? a Gikky?

*goes back to work*

Or a Gwiki? I'll be Steve Gwiki from now on!

My last name has been morphed by people into so many forms over the years it's hilarious. Some examples: Gabby, Globby, Gilbey, Giveme, Glomby, Glibby, Gimpy, and on and on...

Two quick anecdotes, both absolutely true:

1) In 1996 I was flying on Hawaiian Airlines from Los Angeles to Honolulu. There was just one other crewmember flying with me - a 6'5", 350-pound Hawaiian. I'm 6' 2" and 200 pounds, but he totally dwarfed me in size. We had will call tickets. We stepped up to the ticket counter to get our will-call tickets. I gave the ticket agent our reservation number. She studied her monitor for a few minutes, and looking up said: "Now, which one of you is Mr. Biggy?". Fighting back the laughter, I cleared my throat and said in the deepest voice I could make: "Why, that would be me". Her eyes darted back and forth from the big Hawaiian, and me, then we all busted up in uncontrollable laughter!!

2) A few years ago my home phone rang as we were sitting down to dinner. Frustrated, I picked up the receiver and the conversation went like this:

Telemarketer: "Hello, is Mr. Gumby there?"

Me: "No I'm sorry, he's out walking Pokey. Can I take a message for him"

Telemarketer (after a long, thoughtful silence): click

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There's a lot more of those...goes with the territory of having an unusual (except in Wales) last name...Gibby!!

[Jared VanLeuven]

Ha, great stuff Steve!

[Steve Tammi]

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There's a lot more of those...goes with the territory of having an unusual (except in Wales) last name...Gibby!!

Gibby, I know the feeling... I have a unusual (except in Finland) last name.

All through grade school and high school it was popular to call people by their last name, so I guess you could say I was the boy named Tammi. As luck would have it there was also a girl named Tammy in my classes the entire 12 years, I lost count of the times people said we should get married so she could be Tammy Tammi. :sarcasm:

I sent flowers to the funeral of my girl friends grandmother and told the florist over the phone the flowers were from Steven Tammi. Of course the card read Steve and Tammi. So her parents were like who are they?

I still get strange reactions when reserving at spot at a restaurant when they ask for my last name.

Maybe I should change my last name to Red.

[Blaine Golden]

Or a Gwiki? I'll be Steve Gwiki from now on!

My last name has been morphed by people into so many forms over the years it's hilarious. Some examples: Gabby, Globby, Gilbey, Giveme, Glomby, Glibby, Gimpy, and on and on...

Two quick anecdotes, both absolutely true:

1) In 1996 I was flying on Hawaiian Airlines from Los Angeles to Honolulu. There was just one other crewmember flying with me - a 6'5", 350-pound Hawaiian. I'm 6' 2" and 200 pounds, but he totally dwarfed me in size. We had will call tickets. We stepped up to the ticket counter to get our will-call tickets. I gave the ticket agent our reservation number. She studied her monitor for a few minutes, and looking up said: "Now, which one of you is Mr. Biggy?". Fighting back the laughter, I cleared my throat and said in the deepest voice I could make: "Why, that would be me". Her eyes darted back and forth from the big Hawaiian, and me, then we all busted up in uncontrollable laughter!!

2) A few years ago my home phone rang as we were sitting down to dinner. Frustrated, I picked up the receiver and the conversation went like this:

Telemarketer: "Hello, is Mr. Gumby there?"

Me: "No I'm sorry, he's out walking Pokey. Can I take a message for him"

Telemarketer (after a long, thoughtful silence): click

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There's a lot more of those...goes with the territory of having an unusual (except in Wales) last name...Gibby!!

That's really funny! My name's seen its share of abuse, too. :biggrin:

[Phil Becque]

Or a Gwiki? I'll be Steve Gwiki from now on!

My last name has been morphed by people into so many forms over the years it's hilarious. Some examples: Gabby, Globby, Gilbey, Giveme, Glomby, Glibby, Gimpy, and on and on...

Two quick anecdotes, both absolutely true:

1) In 1996 I was flying on Hawaiian Airlines from Los Angeles to Honolulu. There was just one other crewmember flying with me - a 6'5", 350-pound Hawaiian. I'm 6' 2" and 200 pounds, but he totally dwarfed me in size. We had will call tickets. We stepped up to the ticket counter to get our will-call tickets. I gave the ticket agent our reservation number. She studied her monitor for a few minutes, and looking up said: "Now, which one of you is Mr. Biggy?". Fighting back the laughter, I cleared my throat and said in the deepest voice I could make: "Why, that would be me". Her eyes darted back and forth from the big Hawaiian, and me, then we all busted up in uncontrollable laughter!!

2) A few years ago my home phone rang as we were sitting down to dinner. Frustrated, I picked up the receiver and the conversation went like this:

Telemarketer: "Hello, is Mr. Gumby there?"

Me: "No I'm sorry, he's out walking Pokey. Can I take a message for him"

Telemarketer (after a long, thoughtful silence): click

----------------------

There's a lot more of those...goes with the territory of having an unusual (except in Wales) last name...Gibby!!


That's hilarious !! I thought I had problems with my sir name which is Becque (sounds like Beck) - it's been mis-pronounced as: Beck-ette, Besque, Becwee, BeeQuuu, Becway, Beeeek, Beeeku, BecUuu, BeekYou, BecYou, BeeKWee etc etc.

Arf Arf

[Marcus Irvin]

My first name is Marcus. A net aquaintance in Finland has the same name which he pronounces with a long u instead of the American short u. He once travelled to Brazil for work and went into a bank to get some cash. When he told the bank teller his name she giggled and turned bright red with embarassment. Apparently in Brazil "Mar" translates to Mr. and "cus" translates via slang to "pussy".
:blush:

[david farland]

Hey....I didn't mean to start a thread 'Red Knowledge tree' but 'Red Family tree'....
David 'Fartland' Farland

[Andrew M.]

So how do you call the cat that always eats the lemon?

[david farland]

'...I didn't mean to start a thread 'Red Knowledge tree' but 'Red Family tree'....:clown2: It's a joke, Joyce(1095)

DF