New Scarlet Test [Archive]

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 04:34 PM

Hey guys!

Just did another test.

Black and White with film grain added.

Lights were a 200w Pepper and a 650 Soft light with a lamp lighting the background.

We didn't have access to many lights at the time, so made due with what we had.

So here it is. If you want to r3d, send me an email and ill try to send it to you!

http://vimeo.com/33564868

John Bannister

12-12-2011, 04:54 PM

Hey Michael,

Test looks great! Appreciate you sharing, as it helps solidify Scarlets capabilities and potential for those waiting to get their hands on one. Not to mention that it supplies a "fix" to us jonesing for footage! .....I guess that makes you a dealer ;)

John Brennick

12-12-2011, 04:59 PM

Hey Michael,

Well this is my first post on REDUSER and its to say thanks Michael. I gotta tell you, between you and Tonaci, you guys have been keeping me excited every day. I have a ways to go till I get mine I'm sure, but seeing you get the enjoyment out of it that youre getting and being as generous as you are is making the wait all worth while. Thanks again Michael. You've been great with your updates. I'm finding the RED community to be quite a special place.

Best,

-John

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 04:59 PM

:-\ guess so. lol

glad you enjoyed!

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 05:31 PM

Hey Michael,

Well this is my first post on REDUSER and its to say thanks Michael. I gotta tell you, between you and Tonaci, you guys have been keeping me excited every day. I have a ways to go till I get mine I'm sure, but seeing you get the enjoyment out of it that youre getting and being as generous as you are is making the wait all worth while. Thanks again Michael. You've been great with your updates. I'm finding the RED community to be quite a special place.

Best,

-John

Thanks John!

Im really glad you enjoy it! They may not be the highest quality of videos or drop dead beautiful, but I am only 21, and am definitely still learning. I don't want anyone to think that I think my stuff is amazing.

It's just fun. :)

Eugene Martin

12-12-2011, 05:55 PM

the B&W looks decent...way decent....

Jeff Lower

12-12-2011, 06:03 PM

Thanks for sharing Michael. Great to see some 48fps shots.

Kamal Kyrala

12-12-2011, 06:13 PM

Michael,

If you give a mouse a cookie..

Is 120FPS at 1K enabled?

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 06:30 PM

Michael,

If you give a mouse a cookie..

Is 120FPS at 1K enabled?

I don't understand the mouse and cookie thing but thanks? :/I lol

And no its not. Sadly. :/

Ryan De Franco

12-12-2011, 06:34 PM

Forget the good-looking black and white, the expressions and skin tones make this the most "human" MX footage I've seen in a while...

fashion/commercial weekdays, music video/short film weekends, makes me forget about expressive naturalistic shoots like this...

this is the rare kind of test where you forget about the specs posted at the beginning and just enjoy the work.

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 06:49 PM

Forget the good-looking black and white, the expressions and skin tones make this the most "human" MX footage I've seen in a while...

fashion/commercial weekdays, music video/short film weekends, makes me forget about expressive naturalistic shoots like this...

this is the rare kind of test where you forget about the specs posted at the beginning and just enjoy the work.

:-)

Jeffrey T. Morgan

12-12-2011, 07:34 PM

Nice work Michael!

Ryan De Franco

12-12-2011, 07:35 PM

Is film grain added in redcine or elsewhere? the noise has a great look... black and white digital grain actually looks organic not forced

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 07:37 PM

Nice work Michael!

Thanks!

Is film grain added in redcine or elsewhere? the noise has a great look... black and white digital grain actually looks organic not forced

Yes, film grain was added in RCX. I have an addiction with Alchemy and Film look :-\

Jack Shanahan

12-12-2011, 07:42 PM

If 120FPS is not enabled - what is the highest effective frame rate available on the Scarlet today? Can you test it with something that is action based? Something worth slowing down?

Thanks!
Jack

paulherrin

12-12-2011, 07:50 PM

2k @ 60fps, currently.

I'd like to see them enable somewhere in the area of 96fps (or whatever the max is) at 720p... bit more useful that 1k

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 07:51 PM

2k @ 60fps, currently.

I'd like to see them enable somewhere in the area of 96fps (or whatever the max is) at 720p... bit more useful that 1k

I would love a 96fps at 2k.

That would make my day.

Ryan De Franco

12-12-2011, 07:57 PM

Remember they have to have a defining element that separates the two cameras... even if they could enable more than HDRx at 4K 24 fps, even if say 96 at 2K were possible, the question is would Red (and every Epic owner) have a vested interest in that upgrade...

probably not. but then I wouldn't put it past Red to announce new, even higher frame rate possibilities for Epic simultaneously. Except that there is a vast visual difference between 60 and 96 on Scarlet compared to say, 120 and 156 on Epic, despite identical technical difficulties.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there an in-camera 2.35:1 / 2.39:1 option enabled? Or is that post only? Red One eventually got the 4.5K wide upgrade...

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 08:04 PM

Remember they have to have a defining element that separates the two cameras... even if they could enable more than HDRx at 4K 24 fps, even if say 96 at 2K were possible, the question is would Red (and every Epic owner) have a vested interest in that upgrade...

probably not. but then I wouldn't put it past Red to announce new, even higher frame rate possibilities for Epic simultaneously. Except that there is a vast visual difference between 60 and 96 on Scarlet compared to say, 120 and 156 on Epic, despite identical technical difficulties.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but is there an in-camera 2.35:1 / 2.39:1 option enabled? Or is that post only? Red One eventually got the 4.5K wide upgrade...

There's not 2:39:1

I wish though.

Roshdi Alkadri

12-12-2011, 08:08 PM

There's not 2:39:1

I wish though.

Michael, im reading page 95 of the scarlet x manual, it states "Title Guide and Action Guide can be set to your own preferences through User Settings. Available options are Aspect Ratio and Scale"

paulherrin

12-12-2011, 08:13 PM

I would love a 96fps at 2k.

That would make my day.

yeah. that would be awesome, but i'm almost sure the scarlet can't handle it... though, at higher levels of compression...

there was a discussion about this, jim was pretty firmly convinced that the specs were what they were, and they were giving us everything the camera could give. that being said, i would like something between 1k and 2k that maximizes the potential framerates. also, it would be nice to have some options for academy sized or extreme widescreen shooting.

paulherrin

12-12-2011, 08:14 PM

Michael, im reading page 95 of the scarlet x manual, it states "Title Guide and Action Guide can be set to your own preferences through User Settings. Available options are Aspect Ratio and Scale"

those are framing guides (title safe/action safe), not recording sizes.

Roshdi Alkadri

12-12-2011, 08:27 PM

those are framing guides (title safe/action safe), not recording sizes.

I understand but couldn't one use those as guides for framing the 2:35:1 for post

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 08:28 PM

I understand but couldn't one use those as guides for framing the 2:35:1 for post

Of course, but you can't actually record in that aspect ratio.

Ryan De Franco

12-12-2011, 08:32 PM

Of course, but you can't actually record in that aspect ratio.

But what if we could? After all that's how 5K 120 fps came to the Epic, through 2.35....

you need so much light for 120 fps that I could live with much higher compression. anyone at Red know if this is possible?

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 09:18 PM

But what if we could? After all that's how 5K 120 fps came to the Epic, through 2.35....

you need so much light for 120 fps that I could live with much higher compression. anyone at Red know if this is possible?

It would be cool if they enabled that, but it's wishful thinking at this point.

Roshdi Alkadri

12-12-2011, 10:04 PM

Red loves its users, i'm sure if its possible this can be enabled somehow.

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 10:17 PM

If someone tells me the best website, besides drop box (my account keeps getting suspended for too much traffic), I will upload r3d clips!

And a special one I haven't released yet ;)

Sergio Perez

12-12-2011, 10:42 PM

www.wetransfer.com (post the download link here after sending it to yourself :)

www.sendspace.com

Jeffrey Loewe

12-12-2011, 10:51 PM

If someone tells me the best website, besides drop box (my account keeps getting suspended for too much traffic), I will upload r3d clips!

And a special one I haven't released yet ;)
Uploading.com can be good too.

Michael Millichamp

12-12-2011, 11:18 PM

www.wetransfer.com (post the download link here after sending it to yourself :)

www.sendspace.com

Im uploading it right now.

One from the test, and one low light test I haven't put up yet.

Michael Millichamp

12-13-2011, 12:40 AM

(http://wtrns.fr/KogdD0Qyxzf519)http://wtrns.fr/KogdD0Qyxzf519

Here you go!

r3d trim

Sergio Perez

12-13-2011, 01:18 AM

(http://wtrns.fr/KogdD0Qyxzf519)http://wtrns.fr/KogdD0Qyxzf519

Here you go!

r3d trim

Thanks for sharing, Michael! Downloading now!

Michael Millichamp

12-13-2011, 01:26 AM

Thanks for sharing, Michael! Downloading now!

No problem!

Hope you enjoy!

Sergio Perez

12-13-2011, 01:31 AM

Will have to do it later since my net connection here is sloppy. Wll try to put my experiences later tonight :) . This is fun!

Jeffrey Loewe

12-13-2011, 02:01 AM

Thanks for sharing Michael!

Doug Beatty

12-13-2011, 02:06 AM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7157/6504341923_f30ac03561_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougbeatty/6504341923/)
R3D - Latitude (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougbeatty/6504341923/) by dougbeatty (http://www.flickr.com/people/dougbeatty/), on Flickr

Linear Gamma, Redcolor 2

Michael Millichamp

12-13-2011, 06:50 AM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7157/6504341923_f30ac03561_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougbeatty/6504341923/)
R3D - Latitude (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougbeatty/6504341923/) by dougbeatty (http://www.flickr.com/people/dougbeatty/), on Flickr

Linear Gamma, Redcolor 2

Haha! Nice! I love it.

Kamal Kyrala

12-13-2011, 11:04 AM

I don't understand the mouse and cookie thing but thanks? :/I lol

And no its not. Sadly. :/

If you give a mouse a cookie, he's going to ask for a glass of milk. He'll want to look in a mirror to make sure he doesn't have a milk mustache, and then he'll ask for a pair of scissors to give himself a trim.. it's an old children's story about never being satisfied. I was going to ask for a 1k 120fps shot if possible. Too bad it isn't possible yet..

Has anyone posted HDRx video samples from the scarlet?