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Bachman
12-30-2007, 06:22 PM
Natural light. No Color correction or any other

Jarred Land
12-30-2007, 06:34 PM
wow looks great Bachman..

Rick Darge
12-30-2007, 06:42 PM
What lens? ISO?

gdv
12-30-2007, 06:53 PM
On my monitor it looks very magenta, very very magenta.

Shawn Nelson
12-30-2007, 06:55 PM
awe, a cute little Scotch/Irish, is that your daughter?

Bachman
12-30-2007, 06:55 PM
On my monitor it looks very magenta, very very magenta.

Are you on a PC?

Bachman
12-30-2007, 06:56 PM
awe, a cute little Scotch/Irish, is that your daughter?

Thanks yes.....shes a Kiwi

HD Hildebrand
12-30-2007, 07:02 PM
Natural light. No Color correction or any other

Looks like Fujichrome, Velvia

Good stuff.

gdv
12-30-2007, 07:02 PM
No a Mac but really old, could be my monitor. However the girl is very cute

Graeme Nattress
12-30-2007, 07:04 PM
Great shot - thanks for sharing.

Graeme

Shawn Nelson
12-30-2007, 07:05 PM
Thanks yes.....shes a Kiwi

Kiwi recently, but that look hails from the Celts :-)

Jannard
12-30-2007, 07:07 PM
I really don't like to monkey with someone else's color... not sure what they intended. But the shot did have a lot of blue. Good thing about RAW is you can change WB in post.

It is not as easy to change a jpeg as it is RAW footage, but this is another look minus some blue. Sorry... didn't mean to step on your toes. The shot is great!

Jim

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_jt003.jpg

Bachman
12-30-2007, 07:09 PM
What lens? ISO?

I'll tell you later

Bachman
12-30-2007, 07:58 PM
I really don't like to monkey with someone else's color... not sure what they intended. But the shot did have a lot of blue. Good thing about RAW is you can change WB in post.

It is not as easy to change a jpeg as it is RAW footage, but this is another look minus some blue. Sorry... didn't mean to step on your toes. The shot is great!

Jim

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_jt003.jpg

Thanks for that Jim. Nice. Though Im not overly concerned with WB in this shot, and would rather people comment from a tech pov disregarding color balance, subject and composition (basically anything that we have artistic control of) but taking into account noise, detail, sharpness, color gamut etc.

T

PS. ...Happy New Year

Bachman
12-30-2007, 09:19 PM
Looks like Fujichrome, Velvia

Good stuff.

Funny you should say that, thats what I always used to shoot on.

Rick Darge
12-30-2007, 09:53 PM
That overly chunky pixelated green background, is that a result of JPEG compression? Can you post a 4k tiff ?

Rich Schaefer
12-30-2007, 11:32 PM
Guys, Color calibration of your monitor is key! And the higher the rez the more important! I use the Spyder, colorfacts Pro. It is worth having!

http://www.colorvision.com/product-ht-cfp.php

I have had way too many issues shooting HD in the field and everyone loves it on set, and later in post there is a problem and it it major stress. (One major problem was my 23" Apple cinema display is not liner in it's color tracking!)

The shot is beautiful! It looks is un-lit. It looks to me as if the warm top light is mixing with the cool/greener light that is bouncing up from the surface below. The high resolution exacerbates the light-color difference.

The original image is RAW it should easy to clean up. It appears the gamma and blacks are cool/greenish.

I assume the chunkeyness of the green background is the jpeg?

Holiday Cheers,
Rich

Jaime Vallés
12-30-2007, 11:38 PM
Great frame, Bachman! Thanks for posting.

I'm assuming the blockiness in the background is due to the JPEG compression because it's much more evident in Jim's colored version than on the original.

Häakon
12-31-2007, 12:30 AM
The compression is due to the JPG. I just learned this the hard way; even if you save a JPG at the full-quality (least compressed) settings, "attaching" the file to your post uploads it to reduser.net where it is recompressed at a much lower quality and even shrinks the image size if it is bigger than the maximum limits it wants. This is most likely to save space on the server, but it makes examining stills on a forum that's all about image quality not very efficient.

The easy solution is to upload the images in the quality and size you prefer to your own site and then link directly. This way they remain pristine and don't raise these endless questions of "is that blockiness in the image RED's fault?"

I'm also curious - what's with the mini-letterboxing?

Jarred Land
12-31-2007, 12:40 AM
your right Haakon.. and unfortunately image constraints need to be that way on the server.. it already costs me mucho $$ to host the scaled down versions.

thankfully, there are plenty of free image hosting sites out there that will allow you to post full resolution, low compression images, with just the method you described.

Simon Blackledge
12-31-2007, 12:54 AM
I really don't like to monkey with someone else's color... not sure what they intended. But the shot did have a lot of blue. Good thing about RAW is you can change WB in post.

It is not as easy to change a jpeg as it is RAW footage, but this is another look minus some blue. Sorry... didn't mean to step on your toes. The shot is great!

Jim

http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/9_jt003.jpg


Hmm.. you took some blue out.. yet the white shoulder strap on "our" right has gotten more blue :-/ What did you use? Levels?

S

Häakon
12-31-2007, 01:09 AM
your right Haakon.. and unfortunately image constraints need to be that way on the server.. it already costs me mucho $$ to host the scaled down versions.
Jarred,

I totally understand - I run my own site (nothing to do with filmmaking) and I have to deal with the same issues. Fortunately, over there people aren't pixel peeping so it doesn't matter much.

My comment was not so much a critique of the way reduser operates as it was a general message to those who would look at an "attached" image and make quality judgements from it. I almost think that if you have to force heavy compression to all image uploads to keep server space down, you might want to just get rid of the feature and require external linking - too many people view those images and think they are indicative of RED's native image quality.

That being said, isn't Jim covering the costs of REDUser yet?? :tongue:

Jarred Land
12-31-2007, 01:12 AM
reduser is a Jarred project :)

Häakon
12-31-2007, 01:24 AM
Roger that. :-)

Frank Mirbach
12-31-2007, 02:33 AM
Looks nice !

Emmanuel Cambier
12-31-2007, 04:24 PM
We need a tiff of this little girl… badly, I wish I had a way to host it for you.

Emmanuel

Jannard
12-31-2007, 05:35 PM
Hmm.. you took some blue out.. yet the white shoulder strap on "our" right has gotten more blue :-/ What did you use? Levels?

S

I just used Channel Mixer to pull out some blue quickly.

That part of her that is in the sun is fine, in the shade carries more blue. Just a "quickie". Sorry to have stepped in the middle of this shot. Not my place really.

Jim

Emmanuel Cambier
01-01-2008, 06:09 AM
Right…
The things we have to put up with, on this board:)

Emmanuel

vinodkumar
01-01-2008, 10:56 AM
excllent shot man