REDucation 2012 Dates and Info

[TedRed]

Hello everyone, after a highly successful run of classes in 2011, the last few really focused on EPIC and Scarlet shooting, and viewing 4k via RedCineX Pro in our 4k theater at RED studios Hollywood, we are getting lots more requests for information and upcoming dates for our 2012 Classes.

We've decided to add another class in late February in Hollywood, again focused on hands on camera training and a heathy mix of Production techniques, optimizing the images you create, and moving them into Post Production. This time with a new twist (wouldn't be RED if we didn't experiment and evolve)

After the Main 3 Day class, in addition to the advanced post class for those with that focus, we are also going to run a "put into practice what you learned" workshop. 2 extra days of shooting a real project, moving it into prep for editorial, doing the edit and screening it on the big movie screen. For those that work in parts of the business that don't get a chance to really exercise their creative skills just for the pure fun and "learning on the job" We think this will be a really interesting addition to REDucation.

For those setting their schedules here are the dates and locations:

REDucation Hollywood - February 27th - March 2nd - location RED Studios Hollywood
REDucation NYC - May 21-25th - location TBD
REDucation UK - Sept 3rd-5th - location Pinewood Studios London
REDucation Hollywood - December 3rd - December 7th - location RED Studios Hollywood

For more info here's the link on the red.com website:

http://www.red.com/learn/reducation

[Sulekh Suman]

registered!

[Josh Beadle]

Is there a way a Post course could be offered that is scaled to the small to medium size user that does not have the resources of Light Iron - rather uses a non-Rocket Mac with Premiere and hardware you can buy off the Apple Store?

[Brian Henderson]

Is there a way a Post course could be offered that is scaled to the small to medium size user that does not have the resources of Light Iron - rather uses a non-Rocket Mac with Premiere and hardware you can buy off the Apple Store?

Josh,

Exactly what we are trying out with the two day extension course focused on application of learning from REDucation. This time we are trying it with both shoot and edit (the editorial will be done on HP workstations with Red Rockets and Premiere) and if the model succeeds as we believe it will we will have a focused user post class later in the year.

[Josh Beadle]

Mike is The Man but has a waaaaay bigger budget than me. I'm just a wee lad with a Mac tower and an Epic-M/EF trying to decode the dark secrets of REDcine and a color correcting workflow that is in scale with my little $100K world.

[Brian Henderson]

registered!


See you next month!

[Barry Gunning]

Thanks for an other Date in the UK should make this one this year

[Michael Cioni]

Is there a way a Post course could be offered that is scaled to the small to medium size user that does not have the resources of Light Iron - rather uses a non-Rocket Mac with Premiere and hardware you can buy off the Apple Store?

Josh-
Hopefully some of the REDucation alumni will agree, but in the post class we spend ample time discussing techniques and tools for every budget. In fact, it is extremely rare that I discuss workflows that can only be used on big budgets! The truth is, the RED workflows that I employ are used on the smallest and largest movies all the same. The tricks and techniques that I teach know no difference between a webisode and a 3D feature. Honestly REDucation is not designed for a specific "class" of creatives. Our curriculum is truly based on the belief that democratization and optimal efficiency can be achieved by every user regardless of their budget or location. Scaleable workflows along with a full understanding of color science and RED manipulation costs you nothing in practice, which is why we are able to satisfy the needs of every RED user.

Hopefully some other alum will be able to confirm our techniques effectively transcend the boundaries of budgets. For the do-it-yourself-er, REDucation 3D and the post course will have a long-lasting, positive affect on your work.
m

[Sergio Perez]

Quick enquiry, don't know if this was asked before:

From someone coming from abroad, are there any hotels (2 to 3 stars) nearby Red Studios Hollywood? How far is Red Studios from LA airport?

I'm seriously considering this but need to see if this fits my budget!

[PatrickW]

hopefully I can get time off work for some REDvaction.

[Brian Henderson]

Quick enquiry, don't know if this was asked before:

From someone coming from abroad, are there any hotels (2 to 3 stars) nearby Red Studios Hollywood? How far is Red Studios from LA airport?

I'm seriously considering this but need to see if this fits my budget!

Sergio,

LAX is about 30-45 minutes from LAX depending on traffic. We have a number of hotels in the area we can recommend in the two/three star range. PM me and I will send along our preferred hotel list.

Brian

[Matt Gottshalk]

Looking forward to the NYC dates and info.

[John Reinert]

Sergio,

Reducation is not only some of the best training available but the networking with the other students is priceless.

Since I work for a government organization I'm always having to travel on a budget way below my tastes. Here is the hotel where I stay when I visit Red Studios Hollywood. Rodeway Inn, 777 N. Vine Street, Los Angeles, CA. I would not give the place more than two stars but you can get a room for less than $100 a night. The best part is that the hotel is just a block away from Red Studios so I don't bother with a car. You spend all day in class, then go out for dinner with classmates so you are only sleeping there. I have the advantage of flying into Burbank Airport. The taxi ride is about $32. I don't know how much it would cost from LAX.

If you need any other information just let me know.

John Reinert

[Adam Beck]

To those thinking of attending,

Do IT! I took the Epic course in September and it was AWESOME. Never shot on RED before REDucation and now I own a Scarlet. I have drank the cool-aid and am not looking back. Thanks Ted and Brian for making my experience so enjoyable.

Adam

[Shapour Daneshmand]

Registered for the whole 5 days. Feb 27 to March 2nd.
exited!

[Shapour Daneshmand]

A question to TedRed.
is there a limit to the number of attendees?

[Brian Henderson]

A question to TedRed.
is there a limit to the number of attendees?

Answering for Ted - we have added a strict limit of no more than six attendees per camera package/TA. We will add cameras/TAs as we fill up the class, usually we average 50 attendees.

Brian

[Joseph Hutson]

A question to TedRed.
is there a limit to the number of attendees?

Average attendance is 50 students...

[Garner Capps]

Josh-
Hopefully some of the REDucation alumni will agree, but in the post class we spend ample time discussing techniques and tools for every budget. In fact, it is extremely rare that I discuss workflows that can only be used on big budgets! The truth is, the RED workflows that I employ are used on the smallest and largest movies all the same. The tricks and techniques that I teach know no difference between a webisode and a 3D feature. Honestly REDucation is not designed for a specific "class" of creatives. Our curriculum is truly based on the belief that democratization and optimal efficiency can be achieved by every user regardless of their budget or location. Scaleable workflows along with a full understanding of color science and RED manipulation costs you nothing in practice, which is why we are able to satisfy the needs of every RED user.


Hopefully some other alum will be able to confirm our techniques effectively transcend the boundaries of budgets. For the do-it-yourself-er, REDucation 3D and the post course will have a long-lasting, positive affect on your work.
m

Confirmed. I attended December's Reducation+Post course and was very pleased by how Ted and Michael taught principles rather than dogma. I was also impressed by the span of experience among those in attendance. It made for great discussion both in and out of class. Everyone I spoke with came away with new ideas that were going to make real-world impact on their operations, whatever the size.
I very much recommend Reducation to big-leaguers and homebrewers alike.

[Joseph Hutson]

Confirmed. I attended December's Reducation+Post course and was very pleased by how Ted and Michael taught principles rather than dogma. I was also impressed by the span of experience among those in attendance. It made for great discussion both in and out of class. Everyone I spoke with came away with new ideas that were going to make real-world impact on their operations, whatever the size.
I very much recommend Reducation to big-leaguers and homebrewers alike.

+1 and a whole bunch more who will be unable to post here.

Michael, you are always the highlight of REDucation for me...

[Steve Johnson]

Josh-
Hopefully some of the REDucation alumni will agree, but in the post class we spend ample time discussing techniques and tools for every budget. In fact, it is extremely rare that I discuss workflows that can only be used on big budgets! The truth is, the RED workflows that I employ are used on the smallest and largest movies all the same. The tricks and techniques that I teach know no difference between a webisode and a 3D feature. Honestly REDucation is not designed for a specific "class" of creatives. Our curriculum is truly based on the belief that democratization and optimal efficiency can be achieved by every user regardless of their budget or location. Scaleable workflows along with a full understanding of color science and RED manipulation costs you nothing in practice, which is why we are able to satisfy the needs of every RED user.

Hopefully some other alum will be able to confirm our techniques effectively transcend the boundaries of budgets. For the do-it-yourself-er, REDucation 3D and the post course will have a long-lasting, positive affect on your work.
m

Got to quote Michael here and agree that everything is based around workflows from low/no budgets right through to high end. The workflows are the same process, just scaled based on the size of your project. What Michael teaches is best practice that gives you the grounding to then adapt as and where you can/have too.

I can't recommend REDucation enough to those of you who are looking for a total immersive experience. Its a place where 99% of your RED questions will be answered by a team of professionals that use RED everyday. If you want to understand RED operations, workflow, techniques, equipment, how too, case studies, etc there is nothing better.

Just my thoughts - its benefited me, and I'm still learning as things adapt.

:))

[Sergio Perez]

Sergio,

Reducation is not only some of the best training available but the networking with the other students is priceless.

Since I work for a government organization I'm always having to travel on a budget way below my tastes. Here is the hotel where I stay when I visit Red Studios Hollywood. Rodeway Inn, 777 N. Vine Street, Los Angeles, CA. I would not give the place more than two stars but you can get a room for less than $100 a night. The best part is that the hotel is just a block away from Red Studios so I don't bother with a car. You spend all day in class, then go out for dinner with classmates so you are only sleeping there. I have the advantage of flying into Burbank Airport. The taxi ride is about $32. I don't know how much it would cost from LAX.

If you need any other information just let me know.

John Reinert

Thanks John! Already PM'd Brian and would really like your input. Will PM you. If I go to this course I'm talking about, including air tickets and accomodation, something on the lines of 5000 + USD. Have to see if my current finances allow me to make it- that Epic package I ordered gave it a very, very big beating. Would love to attend it.

Another question: You guys are having a world tour, possibly visiting Asia, either a Chinese city or Hong-Kong. Any possibility of a Reducation with the same in depth program during the World Tour? This would really help!

[Marden Blake]

Oh man, I might be shooting a project during those February dates.. UGGHGH, now I'm wondering if I should drop it to attend this...

[Fred Beahm]

I'm seriously thinking of going. Is there a limited number of seats? I want to do the REDucation and post course. February 27th - March 2nd. Gotta come up with the scratch though.

[Iain Philpott]

The UK course is not up for registration. Is it not open yet for registration or do I need to contact RED Europe at Pinewood?

[Daniel P Rudin]

+1

Is this the first UK course? I shure as hell dont want to miss this one..

[Andrew clemson]

+1

Is this the first UK course? I shure as hell dont want to miss this one..

Nope, the first UK course was held at pinewood last september.

It was a blast, sign up if you get the chance.

[Marcos Montenegro]

TedRed:

How can you tease us like that? Post the NYC REDucation dates (AWESOME!) but without the ability to register for them? :(



Hello everyone, after a highly successful run of classes in 2011, the last few really focused on EPIC and Scarlet shooting, and viewing 4k via RedCineX Pro in our 4k theater at RED studios Hollywood, we are getting lots more requests for information and upcoming dates for our 2012 Classes.

We've decided to add another class in late February in Hollywood, again focused on hands on camera training and a heathy mix of Production techniques, optimizing the images you create, and moving them into Post Production. This time with a new twist (wouldn't be RED if we didn't experiment and evolve)

After the Main 3 Day class, in addition to the advanced post class for those with that focus, we are also going to run a "put into practice what you learned" workshop. 2 extra days of shooting a real project, moving it into prep for editorial, doing the edit and screening it on the big movie screen. For those that work in parts of the business that don't get a chance to really exercise their creative skills just for the pure fun and "learning on the job" We think this will be a really interesting addition to REDucation.

For those setting their schedules here are the dates and locations:

REDucation Hollywood - February 27th - March 2nd - location RED Studios Hollywood
REDucation NYC - May 21-25th - location TBD
REDucation UK - Sept 3rd-5th - location Pinewood Studios London
REDucation Hollywood - December 3rd - December 7th - location RED Studios Hollywood

For more info here's the link on the red.com website:

http://www.red.com/learn/reducation

[Brian Henderson]

TedRed:

How can you tease us like that? Post the NYC REDucation dates (AWESOME!) but without the ability to register for them? :(

Marcos and Iain,

We need to finalize our location in NY before we open registration - UK registration will open in a week or so.

Brian

[Iain Philpott]

Marcos and Iain,

We need to finalize our location in NY before we open registration - UK registration will open in a week or so.

Brian

Brian thank you. Heard about last Septembers one here on the day it started! Don't want to miss this one.

[Josh Beadle]

Josh-
Hopefully some of the REDucation alumni will agree, but in the post class we spend ample time discussing techniques and tools for every budget. In fact, it is extremely rare that I discuss workflows that can only be used on big budgets! The truth is, the RED workflows that I employ are used on the smallest and largest movies all the same. The tricks and techniques that I teach know no difference between a webisode and a 3D feature. Honestly REDucation is not designed for a specific "class" of creatives. Our curriculum is truly based on the belief that democratization and optimal efficiency can be achieved by every user regardless of their budget or location. Scaleable workflows along with a full understanding of color science and RED manipulation costs you nothing in practice, which is why we are able to satisfy the needs of every RED user.

Hopefully some other alum will be able to confirm our techniques effectively transcend the boundaries of budgets. For the do-it-yourself-er, REDucation 3D and the post course will have a long-lasting, positive affect on your work.
m

Hello Michael,

Thank you for your reply - love your work!!

I paid for a real smart friend of mine to attend the December RE with the concept that he could assist me in workflow and color correction processing. His takeaway from the event was:
1. Michael is a fantastic presenter and extremely successful at producing amazing features
2. A fair amount of the discussion was centered on big feature film budget hardware and workflow
3. About 20% of the time was spent on REDcine-X and the smaller scale topics

I understand RED's target market is very large budget features but with the introduction of Scarlet would it not be helpful to have maybe an online course that is for little people like myself who don't have unlimited resources or who can travel to LA on specific dates?

From what I can tell, REDcine-X is undocumented so there is no way for me to time effectively teach myself this critical component of the RED Raw workflow. There seems to be a great deal of power in this program but also redundant controls for what I guess is different workflow styles or habits.

NIK software is a company who I recommend to every photographer I meet because they have amazing online / self serve courses that allow me to fully utilize their products. I would love for RED to bring an Epic to Light Iron and film Michael going through a small scale operator workflow and through every button of REDcine-X so I know to fully exploit the critical functions of the program. Like a 4hr course that is centered on producing a simple 30sec commercial spot where I can download the actual sample R3D files to work along with Michael.

That would be cool and very time/cost effective for all involved.

Just an idea

http://www.niksoftware.com/learnmore/usa/index.php

[Michael Cioni]

Hello Michael,

I would love for RED to bring an Epic to Light Iron and film Michael going through a small scale operator workflow and through every button of REDcine-X so I know to fully exploit the critical functions of the program. Like a 4hr course that is centered on producing a simple 30sec commercial spot where I can download the actual sample R3D files to work along with Michael.



How much would you pay me for a 4 hour training video of every button in REDCine-X Pro?
(just kidding;-)

If the reviews of REDucation Dec '11 suggest we need to spend more time in RCXPro, then I would be happy to do it. I love the program and use it on a dozen projects, 7 days a week. Full knowledge of RCX makes my life easier, and will make yours easier, too.

Using the case studies of large features is a good technique for the class because it establishes common ground. But close-watching students will note that the information in these case studies are all applicable to every job. I find that learning from a large project makes for a better scale down to a smaller one. That said, none of what we teach at REDucation is exclusive to specific markets, big or small. -So goes the mantra of RED in general, which truthfully has not identified large features as their target market. But let me ask you this because I doubt you are the only person with this concern:
What components of the RED world (post or production) would you like to see specifically addressed that would make the program more enticing to you?

m

[Steve Johnson]

Iain / Daniel

Hope to see you at Pinewood in September. If last years course was anything to go by, this years course will be... EPIC (Oh I had to say it!!!).

:))

[Josh Beadle]

What components of the RED world (post or production) would you like to see specifically addressed that would make the program more enticing to you?

Take a typical commercial project (a :30 car ad for example) from beginning to end with no more than a Mac tower, $3K monitor, off the shelf drive array, REDcine-X and Premiere.
First challenge: start with specifying a total post production system that costs less than $20K - hardware/software
How do I effectively color correct my R3D's within REDcine-X - avoiding stand alone grading $olutions.
HDRx in REDcine-X (I have been told I have to use a 3rd party program to fully utilize this feature in post)
Epic audio - low cost 2nd sound solutions and how to best sync in post.
Economical data management workflow from acquisition to archive - RED files are big . . . real big.
RED integration with Premiere - tips and tricks.
Output and best compression methods for Vimeo etc.
. . . and just a bunch of stuff looking at the world from a (young) Robert Rodriguez using RED point of view.

Oh and . . . all the buttons in REDcine-X . . . ALL OF THEM!!! ; - )

[TedRed]

Great to see all the responses and interest in our 2012 Classes. This is the best motivation for us, as we learn a tremendous amount from each time we run the class. We are always thinking and looking at ways to refine and deliver the benefits of a week of really immersive learning, lots hands on with the gear with our expert team of teachers, that all have many many RED gigs under their belts, and the ability to shoot and screen that material in 4k in the same day. What Michael refers to rings very true to me, we use all kinds of reference points to teach, the end goal is showing how fantastically scalable the shooting and post concepts and practices are with RED, from doing everything "homebrew" style with very limited resources on small projects all the way to the largest and highest profile motion picture work on the planet. We show it, do it, review it and all learn from it. Bottom line, it's always a lot of fun and worthwhile for the students and staff.

Looking forward to the next class!

+ Ted

[Phil Holland]

At a minimum I'm coming to the open house!

[Josh Beadle]

. . . from doing everything "homebrew" style with very limited resources on small projects all the way to the largest and highest profile motion picture work on the planet.

How about offering a separate "homebrew" track for those with limited budgets? When you get 50 industry guys in a room chances are the conversation and teaching will drift upward to the most sophisticated users since that is where RED's target is . . . and we all love to dream about how maybe we can someday be Peter J. I would very much like to attend a Scarlet scale, REDcine-X post processing event. Please, please offer it as a part of RE.

[Marcos Montenegro]

RED should seriously consider doing a course DVD set; we can't all fly to CA and take off for a week. It would be nice do be able to do so, but by making these techniques available to the world would democratize REDRAW workflow a lot more and a lot quicker; isn't that the objective of RED to begin with?

Sites like Lynda.com have a ton of courses for specific workflows. It would be killer if RED can launch a similar official DVD course set, or online course, and charge accordingly; I guarantee you that something like this would SELL LIKE CRAZY!

[Josh Beadle]

RED should seriously consider doing a course DVD set; we can't all fly to CA and take off for a week. It would be nice do be able to do so, but by making these techniques available to the world would democratize REDRAW workflow a lot more and a lot quicker; isn't that the objective of RED to begin with?

Sites like Lynda.com have a ton of courses for specific workflows. It would be killer if RED can launch a similar official DVD course set, or online course, and charge accordingly; I guarantee you that something like this would SELL LIKE CRAZY!

Online like Lynda - DVD's are out of date as soon as you print them. And like I do with Lynda - I would gladly pay a monthly subscription fee to gain the current, ongoing and dynamic knowledge it provides. This could be a revenue center for RED.

[Marcos Montenegro]

Josh:

Completely agree with the monthly subscription idea! RED??

Marcos


Online like Lynda - DVD's are out of date as soon as you print them. And like I do with Lynda - I would gladly pay a monthly subscription fee to gain the current, ongoing and dynamic knowledge it provides. This could be a revenue center for RED.

[Michael Cioni]

Take a typical commercial project (a :30 car ad for example) from beginning to end with no more than a Mac tower, $3K monitor, off the shelf drive array, REDcine-X and Premiere.
WE DO EXACTLY THIS.

First challenge: start with specifying a total post production system that costs less than $20K - hardware/software
WE DO EXACTLY THIS.

How do I effectively color correct my R3D's within REDcine-X - avoiding stand alone grading $olutions.
WE DO AS MUCH AS RCX CAN DO, AS IT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNED AS A 1-LIGHT GRADING PROGRAM ONLY.

HDRx in REDcine-X (I have been told I have to use a 3rd party program to fully utilize this feature in post)
WE COVER THIS.

Epic audio - low cost 2nd sound solutions and how to best sync in post.
WE COVER THIS, BUT I HAVE SOME ADDITIONS I CAN THINK OF.

Economical data management workflow from acquisition to archive - RED files are big . . . real big.
I COVER THIS A LOT. BIG TIME WITH LOTS OF SOLUTIONS FOR ALL.

RED integration with Premiere - tips and tricks.
WE DO NOT COVER THIS, AS WE DO NOT TEACH NLE SUPPORT (THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES ONCE YOU LEAVE RED TOOLS) BUT WE DO TEACH HOW TO GET TO THESE TOOLS. FOR MORE PREMIERE TRAINING, WE'D NEED ADOBECATION.

Output and best compression methods for Vimeo etc.
GOOD IDEA. WE DON'T CURRENTLY COVER THIS, BUT I KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT AND COULD INCLUDE THIS. I LIKE IT.

. . . and just a bunch of stuff looking at the world from a (young) Robert Rodriguez using RED point of view.
BELIEVE ME...WE DO THIS.

Oh and . . . all the buttons in REDcine-X . . . ALL OF THEM!!! ; - )
IF FEEDBACK WANTS MORE RCX, THEN WE'LL DO IT.

m

[Josh Beadle]

You guys have it covered - disregard my post and I apologize for the questions an comments

[John Reinert]

Marcos & Josh,

I use Lynda.com all the time and I love it. And working for a government organization I sure understand the pain of getting approval for time and money to attend a class like this. But, I have to chip in with this... The content is great, getting your hands on the equipment is really great, having a full grip/electrical department at the studio available makes things so easy. And when you sit in a theater on-site and see your material projected in 4K it's truly energizing. But in the end, it's the people you meet during the class. Everyone from Red and your fellow students. I tend to think of myself as a fairly smart guy. But, during Reducation I meet some very smart people with a lot of different ideas and experience. Sometimes I truly feel like I don't know anything. But everyone is there to answer questions and let you try stuff. You just can't get that from an online course.

I'm a firm believer you have to take the class in person to fully understand what Red is all about.

[Michael Moreno]

I just payed. Reducation and Red Post.
I am going...:001_smile:

I sincerely hope they teach as much as possible for indie productions
My Scarlet-X is a powerful tool and I want to get the most out of it
I am an independent artist and I barely can afford to go
but I am committed and want to be as proficient as I can

Thank you tedRED for scheduling the February date
and making this possible
I am so very grateful and look forward to learning from Michael Cioni

[Ces Peynetti]

First time posting, loooooong time lurker here. I'm excited to have just registered for Reducation!

Now I'm trying to figure out if I rather take Red Post, or Shoot Post Present. For those who have done either of the extension classes, do you have any input?

EDIT: Just found the Sticky above this post. I'll make sure to go through that.

[Josh Beadle]

I am again putting my time / money where my mouth is - signing up for the full week of RE. Question for Ted / Michael:

You offer 2 different extension classes. Given what I requested above, which is more in scale with a "home brew" guy like myself? I am trying to keep the amount of programs and hardware to an absolute minimum so do not want to get into Storm, Scratch, Lilypad, DaVinci or others if at all possible. My perfect world would be to learn how to produce a professional :30 commercial spot with in-camera audio, HDRx using Epic, Cine-X and Premiere only.

[Adam Beck]

Marcos & Josh,

I use Lynda.com all the time and I love it. And working for a government organization I sure understand the pain of getting approval for time and money to attend a class like this. But, I have to chip in with this... The content is great, getting your hands on the equipment is really great, having a full grip/electrical department at the studio available makes things so easy. And when you sit in a theater on-site and see your material projected in 4K it's truly energizing. But in the end, it's the people you meet during the class. Everyone from Red and your fellow students. I tend to think of myself as a fairly smart guy. But, during Reducation I meet some very smart people with a lot of different ideas and experience. Sometimes I truly feel like I don't know anything. But everyone is there to answer questions and let you try stuff. You just can't get that from an online course.

I'm a firm believer you have to take the class in person to fully understand what Red is all about.

John is absolutely right. John brought a taser to Reducation in September where I got to shot it at 300fps. You can't do that with a Lynda subscription.

BTW John, it was good to see you at the open house in December.

[John Reinert]

Adam... That open house was crazy! So many people I think there were over 300. And I was working my butt off. Of course, I was also loving every minute of it. It's like frosting on the cake for everyone at Reducation that week. I just don't know how Red can pull that off. All the vendors, the 4k theater, the bar and imagine driving a one of those Food Trucks right onto Stage 6.

[Steve Johnson]

Epic audio - low cost 2nd sound solutions and how to best sync in post.
WE COVER THIS, BUT I HAVE SOME ADDITIONS I CAN THINK OF.

Output and best compression methods for Vimeo etc.
GOOD IDEA. WE DON'T CURRENTLY COVER THIS, BUT I KNOW A LOT ABOUT IT AND COULD INCLUDE THIS. I LIKE IT.


Michael,

I would second the audio section. I know there was a small element to this when you and Ted did the Mythbusters Part 2 when you where recording and then popped out the CF card and then transferred and synced. I often think audio is overlooked when dealing with R3D files and I think of some additions to this also that would start to complete that workflow for productions (and in the case of what Josh is saying, the lower-budget guys).

Output and Compression - again have to agree. I don't think I've heard this talked about at REDucation on the times Ive been in the room. Even skipping the NLE section and basing from the "okay, you've finished your project in FCP, PP, MC, you've finished your DI and sound, here's how to get the best output for your project." Some examples of compressions for web delivery, DVD, TV, film, DCP, etc would be great.

Hope to see you over for the REDucation UK course this year...

:))

[Andrew clemson]

My experiences with REDucation are that it doesnt focus on any given "level" of production.

Common practice is usually to get a feel for the experience level room and then discuss using techniques appropriate to the audience.

Having said that, It can be quite surprising how much in common a "hollywood" and "non-hollywood" approach actually have.

Anyone who didnt get the specifics they were after in the little "classroom" talks can spend further time discussing with TED, Michael, or any of the TAs at lunch or during the hands on exercises.

There will I imagine usually be at least one of the TAs who will know something about what you ned to know.....

TED, Work schedule allowing, Im at your service for Pinewood round 2.

Or the USA ones if you feel it totally necessary for me to fly over. ;)

[TedRed]

On the question of which extension class is best to take, that's a tricky one, since they both will have significant value - after 3 days of production and post if you want more deep dive on post processes for many levels of the business and some very serious touch time on RedCineX Pro, then the post class is for you. If you want more hands on camera work emulating real studio production on EPIC and Scarlet and them moving that specific project through a quick turn post process and getting a cut onto the big screen, then that's the way to go.

On Steve's audio comment - we agree, for the past couple classes we've brought an audio specialist in to talk and show double system sound options, and Michael does cover the RCX syncing process in his post class. For Andrew - we'd love to have you whenever we can make the long journey over work!

+ Ted

[Josh Beadle]

Signed up for the full week including the Post Processing track with Michael. Looking forward to learning how to make some lean budget "home brew"!

Hey Ted, I would like to bring my own Epic/EF kit and perhaps be paired with other one-man-shooters with the appropriate instructor for a lean operation. Is that possible? Maybe like some others, I have no goal to produce a feature film, TV series or use real expensive post products.

[Daniel P Rudin]

Will the UK Reducation also get externsion classes?

[Andrew clemson]

On the question of which extension class is best to take, that's a tricky one, since they both will have significant value - after 3 days of production and post if you want more deep dive on post processes for many levels of the business and some very serious touch time on RedCineX Pro, then the post class is for you. If you want more hands on camera work emulating real studio production on EPIC and Scarlet and them moving that specific project through a quick turn post process and getting a cut onto the big screen, then that's the way to go.

On Steve's audio comment - we agree, for the past couple classes we've brought an audio specialist in to talk and show double system sound options, and Michael does cover the RCX syncing process in his post class. For Andrew - we'd love to have you whenever we can make the long journey over work!

+ Ted

Im at your service sir, never seen either New york or hollywood so maybe a holiday is in order! :)

Will you be at NAB this year if you guys dont make it over for cabsat? I must owe you a beer.

[TedRed]

Hi Josh, we can certainly connect you in a group that is interested in one man operation, and the best TA that has a lot of experience with that style of work. On bringing your own gear, I think we try and avoid that to keep all the camera packages without any concern for personal property during the class, but Brian can confirm that.

+ Ted

[Josh Beadle]

Thanks Ted, would love to use an Epic with Canon lens since it is a slightly different beast and would love to see the AF in action - I have no problem looking after me own stuff. I'll keep it simple - maybe 2 lenses. I have all the RED bits for the body.

[Andrew clemson]

Josh, I understand people wanting to use their own system as it is what they are used to.
However what I think Ted is getting at is that there is a LOT of gear at these events, and most (RED branded) is identical and gets easily confused with one another. If something goes missing or gets damaged during the course they cannot be held liable for it, so best to leave at home I would say.

Im sure there will be canon mounts available as part of the course inventory, everyone invariably gets a chance to play with everything at some point.

[Josh Beadle]

Josh, I understand people wanting to use their own system as it is what they are used to.
However what I think Ted is getting at is that there is a LOT of gear at these events, and most (RED branded) is identical and gets easily confused with one another. If something goes missing or gets damaged during the course they cannot be held liable for it, so best to leave at home I would say.

Im sure there will be canon mounts available as part of the course inventory, everyone invariably gets a chance to play with everything at some point.

Thanks Brian . . . what, wait . . .

Funny how there seems to be the need on this site to reword, explain or read into what RED staff members have clearly stated or what they might mean by the word "is". It's just funny

[Andrew clemson]

Thanks Brian . . . what, wait . . .

Funny how there seems to be the need on this site to reword, explain or read into what RED staff members have clearly stated or what they might mean by the word "is". It's just funny

I shant bother in the future Josh, only trying to help.

Just saying, there is absolutely no need to bring your own gear, thats all.

[Brian Henderson]

Josh,

Thanks for the offer and we may take you up on brining your own gear depending on the size of the class. We have a limit of six attendees per camera package and right now are all set for the February class size of 45. As Andrew stated we have learned it is best to use RED gear and the gear of our TAs to manage inventory.

Brian

[Josh Beadle]

Josh,

Thanks for the offer and we may take you up on brining your own gear depending on the size of the class. We have a limit of six attendees per camera package and right now are all set for the February class size of 45. As Andrew stated we have learned it is best to use RED gear and the gear of our TAs to manage inventory.

Brian

Fully understand. I would like assurance that there will be a Epic/Canon mount for me to use. This event is no small investment for me and I would like to know it will be what I need it to be.

[Brian Henderson]

Fully understand. I would like assurance that there will be a Epic/Canon mount for me to use. This event is no small investment for me and I would like to know it will be what I need it to be.

Josh,

We will have EPIC and SCARLET packages with Canon mounts at the event for you and other students to use. You will be able to select which package you would like to learn/work on.

Brian

[Josh Beadle]

Put me down for Epic/Canon please

[Michael Kromschroeder]

Hey Brian, I would volenteer as TA as well. I would be happy to come.

Best Michael

[Steve Johnson]

Hey Brian, I would volenteer as TA as well. I would be happy to come.

Best Michael

At this rate Michael, it will be a REDucation TA reunion!

:))

[Andrew clemson]

Hopefully michael Cioni can make it this time though, eh?

[Mike Gifford]

Hopefully michael Cioni can make it this time though, eh?

My biggest disappointment with REDucation UK 2011 was the no-show of Michael Cioni - main reason I signed up
If RED was to offer a Michael Cioni-led Post class at REDucation UK 2012 I'd be back like a shot!
and thank you Andrew for being an awesome TA last year

[Josh Beadle]

I would volunteer my T&A for free tuition

[Andrew clemson]

My biggest disappointment with REDucation UK 2011 was the no-show of Michael Cioni - main reason I signed up
If RED was to offer a Michael Cioni-led Post class at REDucation UK 2012 I'd be back like a shot!
and thank you Andrew for being an awesome TA last year

Not a problem, glad to hear I was useful!

Was a great class, but I too was disappointed by Michael not being there..... he is like a walking encyclopedia of all things post!

[Fred Beahm]

What's registration looking like? Are there a limited number of seats? I'm interested in the REDucation course Feb. 27th through 29th and the Post course on the 1st and 2nd of March.

[Brian Henderson]

What's registration looking like? Are there a limited number of seats? I'm interested in the REDucation course Feb. 27th through 29th and the Post course on the 1st and 2nd of March.

Fred,

The class does have limited seats, we have a limit of 5/6 attendees per camera package so it will fill up quickly. We will most likely be sold out of REDucation and the Post Course in the next two weeks as people put their travel and work plans in place.

Brian

[Fred Beahm]

Brian, thank you for replying. I appreciate it. Is there anywhere to check on availability? I'm trying to pull the trigger in the next week or two. Hopefully I can make it. I'm very interested in the post course. Thanks again for taking the time to answer my question.

[Brian Henderson]

Brian, thank you for replying. I appreciate it. Is there anywhere to check on availability? I'm trying to pull the trigger in the next week or two. Hopefully I can make it. I'm very interested in the post course. Thanks again for taking the time to answer my question.

Fred, unfortunately the system doesn't give availability - the only update will be when it is sold out. I will post here when it is getting close to being full.

Brian

[Josh Beadle]

Hello Ted/Brian,
When talking to a RED user yesterday he stated that I can bring up all the Cine-X like controls in Premiere Pro (less the Alchemy component). If that's true, what post track would be best for a home brew guy like me who would like to have an extremely fast and lean workflow - like Epic-PP-Delivered? I shoot a bunch of stock where I am trying to have the very best acquistion format, quick color grading and ProRes output formatting - I am not trying to grade a feature (overall "look" and scene matching). Should I just concentrate on learning PP in this situation? I currently use FCP so am trying to figure out where to invest my resources going forward. The first 3 days of RE seems like essential Epic training - just trying to understand what post processing training would suit my needs best.

Thank you in advance!

[Brian Henderson]

Hello Ted/Brian,
When talking to a RED user yesterday he stated that I can bring up all the Cine-X like controls in Premiere Pro (less the Alchemy component). If that's true, what post track would be best for a home brew guy like me who would like to have an extremely fast and lean workflow - like Epic-PP-Delivered? I shoot a bunch of stock where I am trying to have the very best acquistion format, quick color grading and ProRes output formatting - I am not trying to grade a feature (overall "look" and scene matching). Should I just concentrate on learning PP in this situation? I currently use FCP so am trying to figure out where to invest my resources going forward. The first 3 days of RE seems like essential Epic training - just trying to understand what post processing training would suit my needs best.

Thank you in advance!

Josh,

I would stay with your current registration for the Post class with Michael. I will make sure you get the materials for the other workshop as well and you are welcome to change once the week begins.

Brian

[Fred Beahm]

Thanks Brian. Do you have an "estimate" of what the availability is looking like at the moment? I'll know on my finances more this week to be able to "pull the trigger" I'm extremely excited to visit RED Studios and learn from the masters. :-)

[Matt Gottshalk]

Any updates on the NYC Classes?

[Brian Henderson]

Any updates on the NYC Classes?

Matt,

Should have the May NY dates finalized by the end of January. I will post here as soon as the registration is up.

Fred - the three day class will be sold out by the end of next week, I believe, hope that gives you a good estimate.

Brian

[Nick Shaw]

I would be very happy to help out again at the next UK REDucation

[Andrew clemson]

I would be very happy to help out again at the next UK REDucation

+1 for Nick to teach again. In fact +1 for Both Nicks that Ta'd last time!

[Steve Johnson]

I would be very happy to help out again at the next UK REDucation

You'll have to book some time for some eats at night and a few beers this time Nick! (both Nicks!!!)


+1 for Nick to teach again. In fact +1 for Both Nicks that Ta'd last time!

Could be another great REDucation UK, if the same TA crew is back!

:))

[Andrew clemson]

Hopeully Nick Allsop has finished flooring his kitchen by september.

[Eric Harnden]

There's a "Page not found" for the sign up link. Is it "all full up" already?

[Brian Henderson]

There's a "Page not found" for the sign up link. Is it "all full up" already?

Nice to hear from you, Eric. The links seem to be working for me but please send me an email at Brian dot Henderson at red dot com with the link should it fail again.

[Iain Philpott]

Marcos and Iain,

We need to finalize our location in NY before we open registration - UK registration will open in a week or so.

Brian

Hi Brian,

Just checking in. The UK course seems to have disappeared from the web-link with no sign of registration? I would like to sign up for the UK three day + two day extension. I would hate to miss out a second time around and fear that I may be shooting somewhere where I have no internet access and miss out two years in a row!

Just got back from Cape Town shooting Epic, I want to buy and need a course! Helpppppp! Many thanks Iain

[Iain Philpott]

Sorry I forgot to say. Could you not do two courses in the UK. I am positive you would fill both back to back over two weeks?

[Brian Henderson]

Sorry I forgot to say. Could you not do two courses in the UK. I am positive you would fill both back to back over two weeks?


Iain - looking into the link but we are set for the 3rd to 5th of September. We are open to adding another course should it fill up but last year one seemed to work quite well. I hope the dates work for you!

Brian

[Tom Greenberg]

Very excited to be attending the Feb. 27 REDucation class and Michael's Post class at RED Studios! Can't wait to dive into the deep end of the pool of all that RED knowledge...

[Brian Henderson]

You'll have to book some time for some eats at night and a few beers this time Nick! (both Nicks!!!)



Could be another great REDucation UK, if the same TA crew is back!

:))

I'm certainly not assembling all of that equipment myself, Steve! We had such an amazing team last year I hope everyone can make it back. We are just finalizing the location and then will have it up on the site.

[Steve Johnson]

I'm certainly not assembling all of that equipment myself, Steve! We had such an amazing team last year I hope everyone can make it back. We are just finalizing the location and then will have it up on the site.

Why not Brian!!!!

There wasn't that much equipment ;)

Happy to do that again my friend. It was fun and I think this year, we'll have a better idea what we're doing, so it will be even quicker!!!!!!

:))

PS - Any chance of a smaller 4K projector this time ;))

[Brian Henderson]

Brian, thank you for replying. I appreciate it. Is there anywhere to check on availability? I'm trying to pull the trigger in the next week or two. Hopefully I can make it. I'm very interested in the post course. Thanks again for taking the time to answer my question.

For Fred and others considering the course - it is very close to selling out, just a handful of openings left.

Brian

[Fred Beahm]

is that BOTH the 3day and the POST? Or just the 3day that's close to selling out?

[Brian Henderson]

is that BOTH the 3day and the POST? Or just the 3day that's close to selling out?

All three courses are almost sold out -

[Fred Beahm]

Looks like I have to pull the trigger tonight then.

[Steve Johnson]

Looks like I have to pull the trigger tonight then.

Fred - I would!

REDucation is soooo valuable and will cement your learning of the process from camera to post.

It should be a perquisite for owning a RED to be honest ;))

[Andrew clemson]

REDucation is a great laugh. Learning aside, its a fantastic chance to meet and socialise with other RED owners and users.

Ive made some great friends from both taking the course and teaching at it.

[Fred Beahm]

I'll see you guys in the post course. Order placed.

[Chris Parker]

I can't recommend REDucation enough to those of you who are looking for a total immersive experience. Its a place where 99% of your RED questions will be answered by a team of professionals that use RED everyday. If you want to understand RED operations, workflow, techniques, equipment, how too, case studies, etc there is nothing better.

Just my thoughts - its benefited me, and I'm still learning as things adapt.

:))


Couldn't agree more. And the best part is....you get to spend a week meeting some really cool people. The best part about the REDucation I was at was meeting people like Steve here.....

[Steve Johnson]

Couldn't agree more. And the best part is....you get to spend a week meeting some really cool people. The best part about the REDucation I was at was meeting people like Steve here.....

Awwwww Shucks!!!!!!!!

Back at you my friend!

:))

[Fred Beahm]

Just curious, when it's officially "sold out", approximately how many people are going?

[Steve Johnson]

Just curious, when it's officially "sold out", approximately how many people are going?

Fred

I think the quota is about 50 max. Although it depends on location, number if TAs, equipment, etc. but it's normally about 50

:)

[Fred Beahm]

Awesome. I didn't realize it was that limited I guess. Thanks for the info, Steve. I'm very excited. See you guys at the end of the month.

[Steve Johnson]

It's one of the great thing about REDucation. You get to network with people from all over the works who you'll keep in touch with long after the course :))

[Tucker Spofford]

Brian,

I just found this thread after finding out that REDucation is soldout!

I pulled a lot of strings at work to be able to send two of us to REDucation, we just bought a Scarlet, we had already paid for air transportation and lodging when I found out the class was full. I didn't know it would/could sell out. Is there any hope for us. I'm in really bad spot if we have to eat the cost of airfare and the deposit on lodging because I didn't register quickly enough.

-Tucker

[Brian Henderson]

We have opened the registration for the next two REDucation courses in New York, May 21st-25th and Lodnon, September 3rd-5th. The New York location is still TBD but the dates are set, the London course will return to Pinewood Studios right before IBC. Links to the registration are below. New York will have the three day main course plus advanced post production and shooting 3D with RED. For now the London REDucation will be the three day main course only.

http://reducationnewyork.eventbrite.com/

http://reducationuk2012.eventbrite.com/

[Ian McGrew]

Hey Brian... Any idea how many spots are available in this class in NY? I just want to somewhat get an idea of how long I have to sign up..?

[Brian Henderson]

Hey Brian... Any idea how many spots are available in this class in NY? I just want to somewhat get an idea of how long I have to sign up..?

Ian,

We have 50-60 spots depending on response and camera availability. We do not have more than seven attendees per camera so that is main factor.

Brian

[Ian McGrew]

Cool! Decided not to wait... Signed up last night. Excited to take this class!!

[Nikhil Kamkolkar]

Signed up for the NY class. EPIX X on its way. Damn. Happy Valentines day to me. ;)

[Brian Henderson]

We will see you in a few months, have been planning the NY debut of REDucation for a while now.

Enjoy your EPIC and bring some footage to show at REDucation!

Brian

[Webster Miller]

Brian,

Any idea when the location will be set for the NY class? I have signed up and am looking forward to this.

Webster

[Brian Henderson]

We are getting close to a location, right now it is looking like we will be in Williamsburg -

[Paul Ellington]

We are getting close to a location, right now it is looking like we will be in Williamsburg -

Standing by.

[Stivan Widick]

I took the 3-day REDucation last year, so signed up for the post track this time around. See some of you in NYC in May!

[John Reinert]

We had a great setup today. After hearing the course lineup for the week this is going to be a killer REDucation. I'm really excited for the Shoot, Post, Present 2-day class. Of course it's hard to compete with Michael Cioni's Post 2-day class but get this.. Red is brining in actors, make-up artists, directors with multiple shooting projects along with experts from Adobe to walk everyone through the post process with Adobe products. And this is only a 2-day class! There should be a week dedicated just for this class. For everyone that signed up for any of the classes. Be sure to ask lots of questions, the direction the class takes is really driven by what you want to hear. If you are a little intimidated, don't be... Everyone is here to help you no matter what level of productions you work on.

[Michael Moreno]

Thanks John
See you there
I hope the Adobe experts are available to all :smiley:

[Casey Green]

Ted, Michael, and the Team doing their thing at REDucation 2/27 at RED Studios Hollywood...

http://www.caseygreen.tv/images/DigitalPix/REDucationClassWideAngle.png

[Shapour Daneshmand]

Casey,
Youre doing an amazing job as an instrctor.
thank you
shapour (Reducation attendee)

[jason dewey]

Casey, thanks again for all your hard work at REDucation, great job!
I really enjoyed working with you on "opera" ....

[Marcos Montenegro]

Where's the NY Reducation going to be held at?? I need to know PRIOR to booking it.

Thanks!

[Glen Powell]

We are getting close to a location, right now it is looking like we will be in Williamsburg -


Silvercup or the BNYS maybe?

Booked in for the classes just waiting to book hotel… I know it's still almost 3 months away.

[Tom Greenberg]

Just want to give a huge shout out to all the instructors and RED Team members that worked so hard to make the February REDucation event a huge success! Thank you for all your efforts...very much appreciated...had the time of my life, made a ton of new friends and learned so much!

[Casey Green]

Casey,
Youre doing an amazing job as an instrctor.
thank you
shapour (Reducation attendee)


Casey, thanks again for all your hard work at REDucation, great job!
I really enjoyed working with you on "opera" ....


Just want to give a huge shout out to all the instructors and RED Team members that worked so hard to make the February REDucation event a huge success! Thank you for all your efforts...very much appreciated...had the time of my life, made a ton of new friends and learned so much!

Thanks so much to everyone for all of the kind words. It was another great week. I had so much fun not only teaching all things RED, but learning from all of you as well. This is a very special program, and it is an honor to be a part of it.

Also, thanks to the group that shot "Opera"... it was an absolute pleasure working with you and I can't wait to see our finished project. We really pulled off a nice short in just a few hours!

http://www.caseygreen.tv/images/DigitalPix/REDucationOperaShortGroupB.png

[Kingslea Bueltel]

Casey Green is my hero. If (when) I end up being a crazy old cat lady I plan on naming 3 tabbies after him. ;)

I had the best time being a part of this class. I'm so proud of what everyone accomplished and I can't wait to see all of the shorts from Shoot/Post/Present!

[Sulekh Suman]

Big Thank You to Ted, Michael Cioni, Brian and the entire reducation team for a fabulous week of learning. Thank you Tonaci for patiently leading our group through the exercises.
I look forward to staying connected with all the fellow redusers who were a part of reducation 2012. It's an investment with truly lasting values much like Red itself. Highly
recommended to anyone who is considering it.

[jason dewey]

Casey - when you say "can't wait to see our finished project" - does that mean that someone is going to FINISH the edit? Christine in all her spare time??? :)

I also wanted to thank Christine and Siobhan for their help - those girls ROCK. I think we all felt really fortunate to have them with us on this project!

[brett ogden]

What IS reducationX

[J.D. Frey]

Where is the NYC Reduction (or at least nearby hotel locations)?
Also are there still slots available?
Also- should I bring my camera, or would there be an issue with that?

Looks like an amazing set of classes for a very low price.

[Brian Henderson]

JD - we are still finalizing a spot in NYC, we will have it by mid next week. There are still slots available and you do not need to bring your own camera but you are certainly welcome to!

Brian

[Umar Agha]

Brian,

Is the New York course going to be using the same set up (i.e. HP workstations + Rocket)? Is it possible to also have a workflow for the "very little guy" without a Rocket? This would give us a chance to see what Premier's Mercury Playback Engine can do with a NVIDIA Quadro-type graphics card... perhaps being able to mess around with debayer quality and playback resolution to see what a viable non-Rocket workflow is (I know it's not ideal, but may be needed in certain situations where one doesn't have access to a Rocket). Any chance of something like this in addition to the regular HP w/ Rocket set up?

Really excited! Traveling for 16 hours all the way from Pakistan to attend the NYC class! See you all there!

[charles lim yi yong]

nice one RED!

[J.D. Frey]

Ok- thanks for the info. I'll see if the boss will let me book now before the location is announced. I don't think I can pass up a chance to take the camera with me to NY!


Brian,

Is the New York course going to be using the same set up (i.e. HP workstations + Rocket)? Is it possible to also have a workflow for the "very little guy"

Hey Umar, are you posting with Red One footage now? I've been posting since 07 without the rocket, just FC RAID on an 07 mac pro with a decent video card. You can't do serious animation or rendering, but you can edit and render lower resolution pretty fast. Even posted on a newer iMac. My guess is that if you plan your workflow you can do it with Epic. In fact I'm betting on it.

[William Eriksen]

Wow, I didn't think REDucation could get any better but then you offer a shoot,post,present and suddenly ..... mind blown

Have a sip of RED cool aid.

[Brian Henderson]

Thanks, Doc - great to see you again! The shoot, post, present class was a great experience and next time we will have an even stronger iteration -

Brian

[Casey Green]

Casey Green is my hero. If (when) I end up being a crazy old cat lady I plan on naming 3 tabbies after him. ;)

I had the best time being a part of this class. I'm so proud of what everyone accomplished and I can't wait to see all of the shorts from Shoot/Post/Present!

Awww shucks...

But seriously, thank you for the sentiment. We were all very fortunate to have such an experienced and passionate group. REDucation is a work in progress and it has come a long way since class #001 held at L.A. Center Studios way back when.

All the staff and teachers have a lot to be proud of, but we also thank the students for everything they bring to the class. I always learn so much from all of you!

Looking forward to the next one... and meeting your tabbies.

[Casey Green]

Casey - when you say "can't wait to see our finished project" - does that mean that someone is going to FINISH the edit? Christine in all her spare time??? :)

I also wanted to thank Christine and Siobhan for their help - those girls ROCK. I think we all felt really fortunate to have them with us on this project!

Jason,

Yes, I am going to work on it in the coming days/weeks. Christine was a huge help, but she is too busy right now to stay involved. With a few tweaks, color grading, and sound sweetening, it should be in good shape. I'll let you know when it is ready.

[TedRed]

Heading to SXSW next week - put a new forum thread up about it here:

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?74391-RED-at-SXSW&p=960539#post960539

[J.D. Frey]

What's the scoop? I'm signed up but have not seen any info on location.

Thanks,
J.D.

[Brian Henderson]

J.D,

We are still working on the details, have a couple of locations to choose from and are scouting them now. I will post as soon as it is final.

Brian

[Brian Henderson]

Looks like we are headed to Steiner Studios at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - http://www.steinerstudios.com/

Hotel information will be posted shortly

[J.D. Frey]

Awesome! thanks for the info. going to start researching some places to stay, and some paces to shoot.

[Webster Miller]

Brian,

I'm stoked, that looks like a great place for Reducation.

[J.D. Frey]

Looks like we are headed to Steiner Studios at the Brooklyn Navy Yard - http://www.steinerstudios.com/

Hotel information will be posted shortly

I'm flying in few days earlier. Does the studio offer public tours? I was thinking of taking a look around before classes start.

[TedRed]

I wanted to give a mention to my friend Jay Kelley, that has been in the RED world since the earliest days of our company - He's just come out with his 2nd series of video tutorials on his website, some are free and some he charges for. I just watched his EPIC Bushing installation tutorial, and his EPIC vs. Scarlet comparison, which I think he did a great job on, really thorough, a great visual step by step guide on the bushing install, and very clear comparison of the differences between EPIC and Scarlet. Jay knows a lot about many aspects of the RED ONE, EPIC and Scarlet and is a great resource for this kind of valuable information.

Our community of users has really taken up the torch of education and assistance to those that want to learn more about the many facets of RED. Jay is really natural and disarming in his style of teaching and makes a great addition to what we do in our hands on REDucation classes. For those that can't make it out in person to hang with us and learn at a REDucation, this is a really smart option.

Here's the link:

http://infotech.dreamwelder.com/


+ Ted

[J.D. Frey]

I

Here's the link:

http://infotech.dreamwelder.com/


+ Ted

Awesome- thanks for the link. I'll take a look now.

[Jay A. Kelley]

I wanted to give a mention to my friend Jay Kelley, that has been in the RED world since the earliest days of our company - He's just come out with his 2nd series of video tutorials on his website, some are free and some he charges for. I just watched his EPIC Bushing installation tutorial, and his EPIC vs. Scarlet comparison, which I think he did a great job on, really thorough, a great visual step by step guide on the bushing install, and very clear comparison of the differences between EPIC and Scarlet. Jay knows a lot about many aspects of the RED ONE, EPIC and Scarlet and is a great resource for this kind of valuable information.

Our community of users has really taken up the torch of education and assistance to those that want to learn more about the many facets of RED. Jay is really natural and disarming in his style of teaching and makes a great addition to what we do in our hands on REDucation classes. For those that can't make it out in person to hang with us and learn at a REDucation, this is a really smart option.

Here's the link:

http://infotech.dreamwelder.com/


+ Ted

praised indeed sir. Don't forget to wear your Hunger Games suit.

:)

[Jon Nash]

I wanted to give a mention to my friend Jay Kelley, that has been in the RED world since the earliest days of our company - He's just come out with his 2nd series of video tutorials on his website, some are free and some he charges for. I just watched his EPIC Bushing installation tutorial, and his EPIC vs. Scarlet comparison, which I think he did a great job on, really thorough, a great visual step by step guide on the bushing install, and very clear comparison of the differences between EPIC and Scarlet. Jay knows a lot about many aspects of the RED ONE, EPIC and Scarlet and is a great resource for this kind of valuable information.

Our community of users has really taken up the torch of education and assistance to those that want to learn more about the many facets of RED. Jay is really natural and disarming in his style of teaching and makes a great addition to what we do in our hands on REDucation classes. For those that can't make it out in person to hang with us and learn at a REDucation, this is a really smart option.

Here's the link:

http://infotech.dreamwelder.com/


+ Ted

+1 here. I owe a lot to to Jay. He introduced me to RED he is the reason I now own 2 Epics. I found his tutorials in the early days really useful and now that iv'e been shooting with RED for almost 3 years Its refreshing to see that he still produces nuggets of info that I can still learn from. I am proud to know Jay and endorse his info tech tutorials. Look out for him at NAB I hear he's got some cool give aways that he's handing out.

[Brian Henderson]

Just posted the Open House information for NY during REDucation in May, the 23rd- Hope you can join us there!

http://www.red.com/learn/reducation

We will have some transportation info soon and will email it to registrants, I am heading out to Steiner Studios next week to finalize.

Brian

[Glen Powell]

Completely totally bummed that my work schedule got in the way and I had to bail (got a refund since I was already enrolled) on REDucation… Going to miss it, but maybe next time?

[Kwan Khan]

Registered

[Iain Philpott]

Iain / Daniel

Hope to see you at Pinewood in September. If last years course was anything to go by, this years course will be... EPIC (Oh I had to say it!!!).

:))

Just registered. Really looking forward to meeting you. Who else has registered for London? Also what is the possibility of the extended course on post?

[Brian Henderson]

Toured the site for REDuation NY today - Steiner Studios in Brooklyn - we will have two stages for the class, one for instruction and one we will convert into a 4K theater to review student footage and some other 4K material we will bring with us. We also organized some transportation options for students and for the open house which we will send along to the registrants shortly- more info at http://www.red.com/learn/reducation/reducation-may-2012

Having a short notice meetup tonight in Brooklyn at the Tap House if anyone is in the area - should be there around 7pm.

[Steve Johnson]

Just registered. Really looking forward to meeting you. Who else has registered for London? Also what is the possibility of the extended course on post?

That's cool Iain. Great we're finally get to meet.

I think the extended courses have just been out of the LA courses due to the post houses (e.g. Lightiron) involvement. I see that NY course has a 2-day post course after that. I for one would hope that we could get the post-course at some point here in the UK.

:))

[Andrew clemson]

Lets see if they let michael into the country this time, steve. ;)

[Vincent Noinville]

Hi All,
New to this forum and to RED, I have registered for the London REDucation in September. Coming from the stills world, I am discovering the Motion side of things and am looking forward to learning a lot during those 3 days. Don't own a RED camera yet, I make do with my 5D mkII, got a BMD camera on order for July and will likely buy a Scarlet-X in June. Not a professional as all guys here but hopeful that I will nonetheless be accepted in the community and have the opportunity to share my enthusiasm and passion for beautiful images.
Cheers

[John Reinert]

Vincent, you should have a great time at REDucation. This is be a great opportunity to get your hands on the different models of RED cameras and experiment. From my experience the classes are very much driven by the students. The more questions you ask, the more you and everyone else will get out of the class. The other benefit is the opportunity to network with members of the RED User community. I hope I get the chance to meet you in September!

[Vincent Noinville]

Thanks for the kind words John! I am thrilled to join the RED users community and finally put my hands and experiment with these fantastic cameras.

[Brian Merlen]

Hey Brian, what times are the 3D courses being taught (I looked all over your links and even called the studio)? I took the reducation course last year and got a nice gig as a DIT going from it, now I want to learn the 3D stuff too. But I also have to get the doctor that day so I really need to know the times for the 3D classes, and if me taking last years NYC class means I met my prereq or not. Thanks so much, hoping to be there! You guys got me from being a broke college student, to out of debt and making the best money of my life, red brings home the proverbial bacon for me and im glad i happen to have the 24th and 25th off from shooting to try and make it in if you guys let me! Thanks

[Brian Henderson]

Brian,

Great that you have been working with what you learned last year, that is what REDucation is all about. The NY 3D will be from 9-6pm the 24th and 25th and will be taught at OffHollywood in Manhattan. Hopefully you can also join us for the open house on the 23rd in Brooklyn!

Brian

[Matthew D. Tierney]

Hiya! Just signed up the LA class... awesome! Doing a whirlwind trip of the US doing all sorts of creative stuff... just managed to squeeze REDucation in! Stoked!

Have had very minimal experience with these cameras so looking forward to learning all about them and getting behind the wheel!

Cheers!

[TedRed]

Prepping for NYC. This class should be a lot a fun for everyone. The Studio Space we have in Brooklyn is going to be great. Big enough to set up our 4k projector for the students to see their work in 4k, and plenty of room to shoot on their studio back lot and in the stages.

As those know that have taken REDucation in the past, you know we are always tweaking the class for the maximum learning value and hands on time.

This time around I've changed up most of the 3rd day of the class to make it into a real world shoot and prep files on set for viewing and post production. Each team of Students will be shooting and using various Red Rocket PC and Mac Configs to load the 5k and 4k RED Raw Files, and drive them just as would be happening on real world shoots.

We have about 7 slots left open for the class, so if you want to register this week, we can still take a few more students.

+ Ted

[Matthew D. Tierney]

One thing I'm wondering about the LA event..., is it ok to take photos? Would love to do little photoblogging here and there (i read somewhere you had to ask permission).


Also, kinda off-topic but the film Prometheus which was shot on Red is released a few days before... It would be awesome to see if some people form the group would be keen to go along to check it out...


Can anyone recommend any good cinemas in the area? Otherwise this might be a sweet night activity for people to get involved in.




Cheers,


Matt T

[Wes Howell]

Hello,

I'll be there as an Adobe employee helping with Adobe / CS6 workflow on day 3. Looking forward to it.

I've been toying with the idea of brining my Epic set up for Run N Gun and maybe grabbing some footage while in NY maybe in the evening hours one of the nights...

[Brian Henderson]

Wes,

Would love some BTS from you during the event on Wednesday night http://reducationnewyorkopenhouse.eventbrite.com/

You can then edit it live on the big screen!

Brian

[Wes Howell]

I'm in.

[Brian Henderson]

We keep the signups open until the day of the class so you can still sign up for 3D - http://reducationnewyork.eventbrite.com/

[Brian Merlen]

Great, I am signing up this evening, very excited!

[Christian Simpson]

I was just curious if the 3 day portion wad mandatory to take the 3d class? I've been shooting red for about 3 years. Also will 3d be offered in LA in June? If not does anyone know when the next 3d class will be offered?

[Brian Henderson]

It is not mandatory just recommended for those who do not have RED experience. We will have the 3D course again in LA in December - and in NY next week but in June we will be running two different extension courses.

[PatC]

REDUCATION NY BEGINS! oh yeaaaaa

[Christian Simpson]

Can we still purchase just the 3D class for this Thursday and Fri? I see that its ended on the eventbrite deal but is there another way?

[Brian Henderson]

Christian,

I reopened registration for 3D - it will be at Off Hollywood starting at 9am on Thursday.

Brian

[Brian Merlen]

Any chance I could bring a audio field recorder to help me with my notations from the course? I am new to stereography and I don't want to miss anything, but I figured I'd ask ahead of time rather then lug it in for no reason should you guys say its a no go...Thanks!

[Christian Simpson]

Thanks Brian

[Christian Simpson]

Thats a good question. I'm paranoid about retaining the information. Are there any materials that we are given or are we allowed to document what is taught?

[Gabriele Turchi]

any more details about what i could see at the Open house ?

it mention 4K screenings : it will be on projector ?a 4K projector ? the Red Projector ?

thanks

g

[J.D. Frey]

Reducation in NYC was great.

Day one was like drinking from a fire hose. We went into over-time by an hour, and I went back to my room and immediately crashed, dreaming of camera builds. By the end of day two my confidence with the Epic had increased an order of magnitude- even though I've had the camera for several months, and the Red One for several years. Day three was still like drinking from a fire hose, but I am now capable of absorbing fire-hose levels of Red info. :)

Here is the down and dirty for those thinking about the next class (This does not include post production, but I imagine that the same rules apply):

1. Class format:
a. There is a set agenda that covers the really basic to the really advanced from day one to three- it is all great info.
b. It is ok to bring audio recorders, and the notes and tutorials are available as downloads
c. The day is basically broken into lecture, application- hands on, and review on a 4k projector
d. The application time is a great way to try out accessories you are not familiar with
e. If there is a specific feature you want to cover (like canon mount rack focus) then make sure you ask your TA about it and set it up for one of your shots

2. Resources:
a. If you want to focus on the advanced stuff, then find a TA and do a breakout session or skip some of the lecture to cover what you want
b. If you decide to skip some lecture, make sure it is something you already know well before you decide to skip
c. The class is designed so that you can cover what you want, just make sure you speak up and let someone know what you want
d. There are tons of TAs available- all skilled industry people- if they don't know the answer, someone will
e. The students are a great resource as well, many people there will have a ton of knowledge
f. prepare to have to think and figure things out with help- this is hands-on, but no one can do the work for you

3. 4k projector
a. Watching your footage in 4k is invaluable for this camera and workflow
b. I can't stress this enough
c. I've been working with these cameras and footage for almost five years and had not seen 4k content until this week- it changes everything
d. Basically until you see your content in 4k you just don't understand- this alone is worth the price of the class
e. Make sure you use the application time to get familiar with the camera and shoot as much as possible
f. Make sure your content gets in the reel for review- you can do this by working with your TA when you decide on shots

4. Ted Schilowitz
a. I wasn't sure how much "Ted time" would be included in the class- rest assured Ted is in there with you every step of the way
b. This guy knows red technology and how to hit these cameras right in the sweet spot, as well as RED's design intent which is subtle but important info
c. Ask Ted questions- I asked a ton, and Ted was there with a smile on his face answering every one
d. Seriously- I was the extremely annoying question guy (not on purpose- I'm just naturally annoying) and Ted smiled, and answered my questions every time

[Alexander Thomson]

I noticed registration for both LA Reducation next week and the LA Reducation open house is still open. Are there still spots available for both events?

[Brian Henderson]

We still have a few spots open for REDucation and the open house registration will be open until the 13th.

Brian

[kevin holmgren]

Reducation carpool?
I am driving to reducation this week and would prefer to carpool to RSH. Not just gas, but access to carpool lane!

Any others want to carpool? Could even be meet halfway. If anyone replies I will put at the top to make it easier to find.

1. Mission Viejo: Kevin 949-929-9669



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