RED Quad Charger + RedVolt XLs [Archive]

Dominick Pietrzak

03-13-2012, 08:37 AM

Hello all!

Received my Quad Charger and RedVolt XLs yesterday, and was able to use them on a shoot last night. Thanks Jarred!

The XLs are twice as wide as the regular RedVolts, so they will NOT fit in the side handle. They are also deeper, so they stick out from the Quad Battery Module a bit. Battery life is great though, I wasn't even thinking about it while shooting.

The Quad Charger worked great. Not sure how long it took to charge the XLs, but it was great charging two at the same time. By the time we went through one XL the other two were done charging... at least it seems like it. The build quality of the charger is excellent, as is expected from RED. The handle on top is a great addition when picking up and moving the charger. The regular RedVolts should charge pretty fast with it, but I haven't tried that yet.

UPDATE:

Total run time with 2 RedVolt XLs, no side handle battery, was almost 3 hours, 2:59:10 to be exact.

This was powering the 5" Touch LCD as well as the RedMote. Side handle was attached but with no battery installed.

You could probably get another 25-30 minutes with a battery in the side handle.

Charge time was approximately 1 hour and 42 minutes. This charged 2 XL batteries.

Dimensions:

Quad Charger:

Weight: about 4 lbs, 14 ounces.

Dimensions (LxWxH): 5 1/2" x 4" x 6 1/2" (with rubber feet)

RedVolt XL:

Weight: about 1 lb, 10 ounces.

Dimensions (LxWxH): 3 5/16" x 3 3/16" x 3 9/16"

Here are some pictures I snapped:

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Peter Strietmann

03-13-2012, 08:40 AM

Like real estate what is the duration, duration, duration?

Terry VerHaar

03-13-2012, 08:42 AM

What is the weight of an XL?

KETCH ROSSi

03-13-2012, 08:44 AM

Nice!!

Kwan Khan

03-13-2012, 08:49 AM

Congratulations.

Demetri Zuev

03-13-2012, 08:50 AM

Wow, both XLs and the charger are bigger than I expected. In fact I remember Jarred uploading an early photo of the quad and it was waaay smaller back then, closer to the Quad Battery module in size.

Well, anyway, just bring it to the store already, those Redvolts of mine are craving for fast energy)

Dominick Pietrzak

03-13-2012, 10:24 AM

Thanks!

I'll have more info regarding running time and weight later this week.

The Quad Charger is big because it's got a powerful power supply to be able to charge the batteries faster.

Mark Phelan

03-13-2012, 10:33 AM

When will these be available??????????

Sven Seynaeve

03-13-2012, 10:34 AM

can't wait to have some, great

Tim Whitcomb

03-13-2012, 10:36 AM

When will these be available??????????

First page of the MOTHER OF ALL BACKORDER updates by Jarred

Quad Battery Charger - 2nd week of May

Jon Carr

03-13-2012, 11:38 AM

So want this... How long do they last? And charging times?

Patrick Grossien

03-13-2012, 12:11 PM

hehe congrats on that! looks great. get the info out to the waiting horde ;) myself included ... hehehe

Danai Chutinaton

03-13-2012, 12:15 PM

That charger looks really nice! Also the fast charge times are very exciting!

Peter Plevritis

03-13-2012, 12:46 PM

So it will charge 4 regular RedVolts simultaneously?

dj ditt

03-13-2012, 12:53 PM

So it will charge 4 regular RedVolts simultaneously?

It is called the Quad Charger, isn't it:yes nod:?

Hey Dominick, where is the Instagram love...

Peter Plevritis

03-13-2012, 12:57 PM

Enough with the snark.

Please, an answer from someone who actually has one.

Dominick Pietrzak

03-13-2012, 03:51 PM

I will get the weight and charging time info later this week!

And yes, the charger will charge 4 RedVolts at the same time, or 2 RedVolt XLs at the same time.

More Instagram love coming soon! :thumbup1:

Tyler Bourns

03-13-2012, 05:41 PM

Awesome. It would be great to get the dimensions of the charger if possible. Could prepare my case for when they are available.

Thanks.

paulherrin

03-13-2012, 10:37 PM

I know I've read it, but I can't find or remember for the life of me, how much are the quad chargers slated to cost? Was it $400 or am I making that up?

Demetri Zuev

03-13-2012, 11:25 PM

I know I've read it, but I can't find or remember for the life of me, how much are the quad chargers slated to cost? Was it $400 or am I making that up?

I think it was $500 — four travel chargers' cost combined.

Chris McKechnie

03-13-2012, 11:32 PM

It sucks they don't fit in the SH, but then they wouldn't be REDVOLT XL's now would they. That quad charger = I want one!!

Jason Wingrove

03-14-2012, 02:07 AM

Look great. Looking fwd to them hitting the store.
Any plans to be able to mount just one XL on the rear without a battery module, like an XL quick plate?
jas

KETCH ROSSi

03-14-2012, 02:50 AM

+1 on both counts Jason... ;)

Look great. Looking fwd to them hitting the store.
Any plans to be able to mount just one XL on the rear without a battery module, like an XL quick plate?
jas

Patrick Grossien

03-14-2012, 03:00 AM

Look great. Looking fwd to them hitting the store.
Any plans to be able to mount just one XL on the rear without a battery module, like an XL quick plate?
jas

I'm hoping that the dual will exactly look like that! though this will kinda be a module, won't it? Just an "end" module. Last piece in the chain.
I'm so much hoping for that, don't want to invest into more battery solutions...

Tom_Gaudet

03-14-2012, 03:37 AM

Same here, hoping for an "End module" or plate with cable and Lemo that takes 2 Redvolts or one XL. Surely would like to stick with one battery system.

Patrick Grossien

03-14-2012, 04:09 AM

Just wanted to photoshop the power back module for fun. And although pictures are difficult to use as a reliable source, it seems that the form factor wouldn't match.

Though I wouldn't mind too much for an end module, it seems the width of two redvolts plus the needed support and release buttons around them would be wider than
the standard module/brain width. Maybe they could move the release buttons to the side, but still at the moment this seems unlikely. Just try it.

Especially if you have a quad module, just turn it 90° and see for yourself and do report back. Maybe this isn't as much as I believe it would be.
Maybe this could be done if they are top loaded and not front or side loaded. Maybe all this doesn't matter, because if the last module on the cam would be a bit wider,
who would care? (except for us designers) ;)

I'd still want one ;)

Patrick Grossien

03-14-2012, 04:11 AM

I think it was $500 — four travel chargers' cost combined.

Yup, almost. Last announcement from Jarred was $490. (this was some time ago, so nothing to rely on)

Patrick Grossien

03-14-2012, 04:25 AM

I still find it really funny, that now that the quad modules are out, so many are selling it. If I could I'd grab one... :(

Of course I understand a lot of people had to invest in different battery solutions but the argument that it increases
the size too much I do find quite amusing... remember the red one? :) nobody complained about the form factor there... hehehe.
I know that the width of the REDVOLTs changed since the early renders, but still the EPIC + QUAD POWER + I/O Module should still be
about the same length as the red one without batteries ;)

Robert L. Mickles

03-14-2012, 01:37 PM

Very cool. Congrats!

Björn Benckert

03-14-2012, 03:59 PM

Just as we bought so many small batteries :(
Dimensions for the charger would be great to get before we start to cut foam again...
Also the size for the XL's but I guess we can figure them out by looking at the quad module and think about 1.5 volt thick.

The question is, when the quad charger hit shop I think there will be quite a few single battery chargers for sale... So then buying many of the single chargers used for low price and rack them up nicely in a case with one power input (for all) is probably giving the batteries a slower / more healthy charge and maybe for a lower price.

Like having a case with 12 volts and 8 single chargers would be quite nice.

Dominick Pietrzak

03-14-2012, 04:30 PM

I think the main reason people are complaining about the size of the extended modules are because they are spoiled by the small form factor of the camera. The great thing about the modular system is that you don't HAVE to have the quad battery module on there all the time. If you're running around take it off, throw on the Side Handle and an outrigger handle (which I love) and you're ready to go. When you're shooting longer outdoors things, or in the studio, put on your I/O module / battery module / focus module and you've got a pretty well equipped camera.

I don't like the idea of an "end" plate XL module because I like to have my RedMote on the back, but others may disagree. Actually when I think about it, it does seem kinda nice for run and gun.

I also just bought a bunch of extra regular RedVolts. I've got 10 RedVolts and 5 chargers. 8 RedVolts and 4 chargers with the Quad Module will get you through the day without a hitch. You can go all day long without turning off the camera. With the XLs, it's even better.

I will be shooting my short film for the next three weekends so I will have more info about charge times and run times then.

I'll also get dimensions and weight tomorrow for those of you interested.

Gavin Greenwalt

03-14-2012, 04:56 PM

I think the main reason people are complaining about the size of the extended modules are because they are spoiled by the small form factor of the camera. The great thing about the modular system is that you don't HAVE to have the quad battery module on there all the time. If you're running around take it off, throw on the Side Handle and an outrigger handle (which I love) and you're ready to go. When you're shooting longer outdoors things, or in the studio, put on your I/O module / battery module / focus module and you've got a pretty well equipped camera.

The reason I complain about the size is because it's stupidly huge. A v-mount adaptor and brick weigh less and are half the size and run longer. They lose on every account except for hotswap (which is accomplished with a side-handle. We are definitely spoiled :) but V-Mounts just make more sense to me.

Dominick Pietrzak

03-14-2012, 05:02 PM

Yes I agree that it is a bit big, and the module adapter adds to that. Compared to other cameras in this range though, it is still fairly small. V-Mount is definitely a great option, with proper power outs and longer run times. But perhaps RED will soon release a power out module. I decided to go the RED way since I didn't have any previous AB/V Mount power solutions. So far I'm happy with it :) I guess everyone has different needs and that is what is great about these cameras, everyone can conform them to their needs.

Jarred Land

03-14-2012, 09:45 PM

Everyone has an opinion... and if u like something one way or another.. at least we give you the option :)

Dominick Pietrzak

03-14-2012, 10:03 PM

Everyone has an opinion... and if like something one way or another.. at least we give you the option :)

That is one of my favorite things about these cameras.

Nick Mercer

03-14-2012, 10:19 PM

Any note on how much the XL's will cost or when they will come out? I have seen the update list, and these did not appear to be listed. When was the XL REDvolt and quad charger announced? On the Recon thread? I guess I've missed all these new modules...

Nick Mercer

03-14-2012, 10:32 PM

Omar Al-Masab

03-14-2012, 10:53 PM

Look great. Looking fwd to them hitting the store.
Any plans to be able to mount just one XL on the rear without a battery module, like an XL quick plate?
jas

+2 would be amazing

Alex Kiritz

03-14-2012, 11:45 PM

Also, let me get this straight... Assume I already have a side handle, then I purchase the quad module ($2000 with adapter), now $200 a REDvolt (5 x $200 = $1000). This setup would get me around 2 1/2 hours? Vs. Cinema Oxide backplate and battery plate for $500 and a battery @ $200-300 which would get me more than 3 hours of shooting and is smaller than the quad module? This is right? If so, what is the reasoning for the quad module?

It lets you still charge the redmote and use other modules. It's the most ideal solution and pros who buy it help subsidize things like scarlet. If you want the absolute best you can buy red accessories. Otherwise you can get accessories that work almost as well much more cheaply. It's a money/time tradeoff.

Nick Mercer

03-15-2012, 12:43 AM

Thanks Alex. I personally just don't see it. $3000 vs $600-700... Couldn't you just keep the battery in the side handle for charging the REDmote? If you stuck a battery mount on rods rather than the battery plate, you could use the other modules as well... like the red one quick plate or red cradle.

Claus Mueller

03-15-2012, 01:14 AM

Quad Charger is nice. But what is the advantage of 2 Redvolt XL's instead of 4 Redvolts? Is it much more duration?

Nick Mercer

03-15-2012, 01:27 AM

They noted that the XL's are slightly deeper in size. Which is just barely over 2x the capacity supposedly...

Dominick Pietrzak

03-15-2012, 06:08 AM

The XLs are about 3x the capacity of a regular RedVolt.

Sven Seynaeve

03-15-2012, 06:17 AM

x1.5 seems pretty good to me

Nick Mercer

03-15-2012, 07:52 AM

The XLs are about 3x the capacity of a regular RedVolt.

Okay. That makes more sense now...

Bob Gundu

03-15-2012, 08:11 AM

I bet you will get 90 minutes out of 1 XL battery.

JamminJG

03-15-2012, 08:17 AM

nice!

Dominick Pietrzak

03-15-2012, 02:57 PM

I bet you will get 90 minutes out of 1 XL battery.

Yeah I'm guessing around 90 minutes, we'll see.

Dominick Pietrzak

03-15-2012, 03:05 PM

Quad Charger:

Weight: about 4 lbs, 14 ounces.

Dimensions (LxWxH): 5 1/2" x 4" x 6 1/2" (with rubber feet)

RedVolt XL:

Weight: about 1 lb, 10 ounces.

Dimensions (LxWxH): 3 5/16" x 3 3/16" x 3 9/16"

Hope that helps those of you who needed dimensions :thumbup1:

Tyler Bourns

03-15-2012, 03:20 PM

Paul Hazlett

03-15-2012, 04:03 PM

Thanks for the info, Have you noted how long it is to charge one and is it a simultaneous charger or series?

Dominick Pietrzak

03-15-2012, 04:08 PM

No problem!

I am going to see how long it takes to charge and how long they run this weekend.

The batteries charge simultaneously!

Nate Clapp

03-17-2012, 06:01 AM

Dominick Pietrzak

03-17-2012, 07:24 PM

Hey, now that I have a quad battery mount of my own, I see a potential design flaw. If you have XL batteries in, does that interfere with pulling out the SSD? That is does the XL battery stick out just enough to prevent a clean path to put in or pull SSD out?

Yeah I noticed this as well. I guess you would have the Pro I/O Module in between, or you could have regular RedVolts on one side and the XLs on the other.

Bob Gundu

03-17-2012, 07:28 PM

Good grief! Looks like the size of the XL batteries changed significantly since the original design. I'll stick with getting the dual battery module instead.

Yeah I noticed this as well. I guess you would have the Pro I/O Module in between, or you could have regular RedVolts on one side and the XLs on the other.

Adam Bricker

03-18-2012, 08:36 AM

Have the dimensions of the dual REDVolt module been posted?

Hoping to get a head start on a custom case for REDVolts + Quad Charger + Dual Module.

Jason Osterday

03-22-2012, 07:17 AM

What is the actual wattage of these? It seems this setup is about the equivalent of a RED Brick with a battery plate off the back? It would be great if someone created a "backpack" plate for the XL batteries so that you can have the option of using just one.

Dominick Pietrzak

03-24-2012, 08:15 PM

Hey everyone! Really sorry for not being able to post sooner. Have been shooting and slowly putting my short film together so it has been a bit hectic.

Used the XLs on set again today and all went smoothly. Not the best place to try and record charge and run times though, haha.

Tomorrow I will set up the camera, and have it run with 2 freshly charged XLs. I'll record charge times and run times. I hope that'll help you all with your decision on whether or not to get them :)

Again I do apologize for the long wait, I hope you can all forgive me!

Dominick Pietrzak

03-25-2012, 11:32 AM

Total run time with 2 RedVolt XLs, no side handle battery, was almost 3 hours, 2:59:10 to be exact.

This was powering the 5" Touch LCD as well as the RedMote. Side handle was attached but with no battery installed.

You could probably get another 25-30 minutes with a battery in the side handle.

needs to be made clear that the time you get out of the REDVOLT battery does indeed varies by what elements you have connected to the EPIC and what resolution/frame rate one is shooting at, as well as the speed of the fan, and of course also weather conditions, as in my travels and great exchange of HOT and COLD have also made a difference.

Will now time the charge time!

Patrick Grossien

03-25-2012, 11:44 AM

Thx dominick!
Runtime of 3hrs is for 2 XL revolts, right?

Dominick Pietrzak

03-25-2012, 11:46 AM

Forgot to write that, added it in now!

Thx dominick!
Runtime of 3hrs is for 2 XL revolts, right?

Justin Marx

03-25-2012, 11:51 AM

Is that RUN TIME recording or just ON?

Dominick Pietrzak

03-25-2012, 11:54 AM

The run time is just the camera running, not recording. It has been stated a couple of times that there is no power management implemented in the firmware so there should be no difference whether the camera is recording or just standing by.

Dominick Pietrzak

03-25-2012, 01:16 PM

Charge time was approximately 1 hour and 42 minutes. This charged 2 XL batteries.

Patrick Grossien

03-25-2012, 02:39 PM

Dominick, for the new ones here, you might want to add the runtime and charging info to your first, original post. Helps a lot, not having to search for these two sentences ;)

Patrick Grossien

03-25-2012, 02:41 PM

And thanks a lot for the much needed info!

Dominick Pietrzak

03-25-2012, 02:54 PM

No problem! And just added it now :)

Hans Magnus Kvåle

03-25-2012, 03:03 PM

Thank you. This was really helpfull, I'm super exited to see if it will fit our new case innlay.

Quad Charger:

Weight: about 4 lbs, 14 ounces.

Dimensions (LxWxH): 5 1/2" x 4" x 6 1/2" (with rubber feet)

RedVolt XL:

Weight: about 1 lb, 10 ounces.

Dimensions (LxWxH): 3 5/16" x 3 3/16" x 3 9/16"

Hope that helps those of you who needed dimensions :thumbup1: