"Slow" CF cards good enough for 2K?

[Tony Lorentzen]

Subject says it all, really. Are the CF cards that are not quite fast enough for 4K good enough for 2K recording? If I was going to shoot documentary stuff in 2K I'd much rather have more storage space at a lower price? Maybe RED should certify CF cards for recording 2K and 4K separately?

[fightordie]

a great idea. Funny how we finally get a non proprietary recording format that makes us drool at the idea of affordable, easy to access stock, yet there's only one card thats certified to work.

[Michael Morlan]

a great idea. Funny how we finally get a non proprietary recording format that makes us drool at the idea of affordable, easy to access stock, yet there's only one card thats certified to work.

At the risk of sounding like a fan-boy (which I endeavor valiantly to avoid):

The beauty of a non-proprietary recording format is that you are paying $200 instead of >$1000 for an 8GB card as Panasonic forced buyers of the HVX-200 to do when it was first released.

As RED DCC has gone through the process of developing this camera over the last two years, their original vision has collided with reality many times, limiting what they hoped to deliver, but they have still managed to come up with a viable CF card recording option. Be glad you have even one CF card that works.

[Lexicon]

Subject says it all, really. Are the CF cards that are not quite fast enough for 4K good enough for 2K recording? If I was going to shoot documentary stuff in 2K I'd much rather have more storage space at a lower price? Maybe RED should certify CF cards for recording 2K and 4K separately?

That would be nice. I believe someone from RED said they had found one or two cards that they tested for 4K that didn't pan out but worked well enough for 2K.

[Anders Holck]

Customer support hell?

[fightordie]

At the risk of sounding like a fan-boy (which I endeavor valiantly to avoid):

The beauty of a non-proprietary recording format is that you are paying $200 instead of >$1000 for an 8GB card as Panasonic forced buyers of the HVX-200 to do when it was first released.

As RED DCC has gone through the process of developing this camera over the last two years, their original vision has collided with reality many times, limiting what they hoped to deliver, but they have still managed to come up with a viable CF card recording option. Be glad you have even one CF card that works.

What makes you think I'm not glad?
You make it sound like I was directing this at RED and not the CF manufacturers.
Why do you assume I haven't read the MANY threads on here about cf cards, for over a year now, where RED has been testing every card that comes out as quick as they can get them only to find the write speeds by the card manufacturers never live up to what the manufacturers state.
Theres even a couple of threads just below this one.

Next time I'll make sure to be more clear so defensive, quick on the trigger high horse sitting Texans that like to lecture know where I'm coming from.

Now back to the original point of this thread. It would be nice to know if there are other cards that can be used for 2k shooting for those of us who like the idea of shooting in 2K especially for slow motion.

[sparkhope]

That would be nice. I believe someone from RED said they had found one or two cards that they tested for 4K that didn't pan out but worked well enough for 2K.

of course those cards probably won't allow higher frame rates in 2k.

- slight change in question. Is there any info on how many K's we're actually getting from the 4K sensor? I imagine with imperfect focus we can expect a drop in resolution. Since the RED lenses are a good compromise between cost and function, I wonder if they're able to deliver 4K. Any one know one way or another?

thanks

[Gunleik Groven]

Gibby has stated many times that the Red lenses resolves well

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[Eric MacIver]

The Hoodman 16gb Cards worked well enough for 2k for us... Not sure what frame rate they got up to though.

[Jarred Land]

We prefer if you used Red cards but we if you want to use another card thats ok, (as long as you dont blame us for all the errors you might get) remember though, When 2k goes faster in frame rates they will be just as demanding in performance as 4k 16:9.

Keep in mind that the RED cards have a custom firmware to match the protocol and block size of Transfers.

[fightordie]

We prefer if you used Red cards but we if you want to use another card thats ok, (as long as you dont blame us for all the errors you might get) remember though, When 2k goes faster in frame rates they will be just as demanding in performance as 4k 16:9.

Keep in mind that the RED cards have a custom firmware to match the protocol and block size of Transfers.

I know its important for RED to keep a tight rein on this right now because you don't need people using non certified cards then complaining all over the internet how they got corrupted footage. But it would be nice to know if in a shooting panic that a quick walk over to a computer/photo store, for those of us willing to take a chance, might help us out to keep shooting.
Any plans in the future of having the firmware be upload-able (with full disclaimer of course)?