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david farland
03-02-2007, 07:29 AM
Couple of things….
I expect Red have been all over this area. Still, nice to know what solutions they’ll carry forward. Yes I know, wait till NAB or later! Still, I have some suggestions here.

During record, the camera writes to REDDRIVE using an esata interface.
I plug the REDDRIVE into my computer with an esata etc interface and copy the data into my computer presuming my computer can recognize the drive at the OS level and copy (not read) the data without REDCINE. I don’t need a REDCINE license to copy footage off REDDRIVE which would greatly assist in backup options. I’ll wait till NAB..

And that’s enough and that’d be nice!

I’d like to backup from my REDDRIVE to a non RED external drive with RED as the host as mentioned by getKen, thus eliminating any need for tape drives or backup PCs. This will affect traditional backup regimes.
RED is the host when writing to the REDDRIVE, just don’t know what hardware provisioning RED made to enable a copy from REDDRIVE to non-RED backup drives. Hoping this would be firmware only as I ‘assume’ there is one esata controller with 2 read/write channels, one for REDFLASH and one for REDDRIVE. Take out one of them and copy data from the other to a 3rd party drive. Nice…
Cheers,
DF

Jarred Land
03-02-2007, 07:34 AM
You will not require REDCINE to offload or copy the drives david :)

And REDCODE footage is all data... so it can goto any drive/datatape/bluray/ etc. storage device that you use in your workflow.

Ken Willinger
03-02-2007, 07:55 AM
I’d like to backup from my REDDRIVE to a non RED external drive with RED as the host
David, from what I read in the other thread, it does not appear at this point that RED will be a host for anything other than REDDRIVE. Is that correct Jarred?

david farland
03-02-2007, 04:20 PM
Thanks for the info Jarred.

I understand the second suggestion is entwined within RED's R&D development strategy.
Brought it up to illuminate the point that now RED is dealing in 4K/2K/4:4:4 world, backup devices are not cheap, but this solution was.

Now if everyone will just take their RED data pill and leave the old BLUE pill in the saucer, we can get on with our digitial future!

DF

Stuart English
03-03-2007, 06:58 AM
Once you leave traditional video infrastructures behind then backing up your data is already inexpensive, and getting more so every quarter.

Its pretty hard to be the cost effectiveness of cloning your data to a $350 1 TB hard disk drive or a $60 for 400GB data tape / $4K data drive.

Any cost penalty is really incurred when interfacing to the real time SDI / HD-SDI video world of broadcast stations. But as they themselves are evolving to IT infrastructures, once program makers can show them how to receive product at better quality and cheaper, they'll switch - it'll take time - but they'll switch.