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Michael Cioni
04-13-2012, 09:17 PM
• 8 Months in the making
•*Optimized for use in production and post
•*Designed by listening to what users want in a dailies review system
•*Priced so there are no excuses to avoid using it
Introducing the most powerful dailies review system on the market: Light Iron's TODAILIES
http://lightiron.com
Happy NAB;-)
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brett ogden
04-13-2012, 09:19 PM
It Look's so cool i want it and i don't have a need for It :)
Great Job Light Iron Team
Sam Winzar
04-13-2012, 09:34 PM
SOLD!
Chris McKechnie
04-13-2012, 10:20 PM
• 8 Months in the making
•*Optimized for use in production and post
•*Designed by listening to what users want in a dailies review system
•*Priced so there are no excuses to avoid using it
Introducing the most powerful dailies review system on the market: Light Iron's TODAILIES
http://lightiron.com
Happy NAB;-)
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Does TODAILIES actually download the h264 files to the iPad? If it does, that's going to fill up quickly.
Michael Cioni
04-13-2012, 10:26 PM
User controlled selectable sync directories
Terry VerHaar
04-13-2012, 10:55 PM
Michael - this may prove to be one of those "duh" questions once it's answered but here goes...
I am not sure I understand the difference between ToDailies and LivePlay. Can you explain? Thanks.
Michael Cioni
04-13-2012, 11:04 PM
Michael - this may prove to be one of those "duh" questions once it's answered but here goes...
I am not sure I understand the difference between ToDailies and LivePlay. Can you explain? Thanks.
No worries.
LiVE PLAY virtualizes clips so that they are streamed in an unlimited amount to ipads on a closed-circuit network.
Todailies takes rendered H.264 files and automatically synces them to an iPad so they can be viewed and manipulated without any network connection.
Think of LiVE PLAY as advanced video playback and Todailies as the replacement for DVDs.
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Terry VerHaar
04-13-2012, 11:19 PM
Thanks. Are the LightIron Server and the LivePlay Server complementary? The same? Can the two systems work in tandem? Does the Server compress the files to the h.264 automatically? Can the h.264 creation be hardware assisted? OK - I'll shut up now.
Michael Cioni
04-13-2012, 11:24 PM
Thanks. Are the LightIron Server and the LivePlay Server complementary? The same? Can the two systems work in tandem? Does the Server compress the files to the h.264 automatically? Can the h.264 creation be hardware assisted? OK - I'll shut up now.
LI Server can serve both LiVE PLAY and Todailies and yes, they can work in tandem. In fact, you can set metadata tags in LiVE PLAY on the set and then read them in Todailies when you take them home. H.264s need to be made by some other method, to which there are infinite possibilities. So hardware assistance for H.264 creation is a great way to do it, then the directory H.264s are served to are automatically to LiVE PLAY and then synced to Todailies. Using both these systems together or independently with the same LI Server makes it easy to integrate to any project and truly any budget.
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Terry VerHaar
04-13-2012, 11:41 PM
Very exciting. And very cool. Looking to wrap my head around the possibilities. More Qs on Sunday!!!
Marc Wielage
04-14-2012, 01:37 AM
Very nice user interface on TODAILIES -- well done. I can see where a lot of clients could adapt to this very easily.
Steve Johnson
04-14-2012, 02:06 AM
Great Michael.
Just downloaded the update to Server and TODAILIES. They work seamlessly together. Great tools to add to any production for the clients. Will be using this next week now on a production.
Thanks for making this available.
Steve
:))
Scott Crawley
04-14-2012, 06:22 AM
I like the new features that I have seen, but why two different apps? Can Toadailies do all of what Live Play does in addition to the new features?
Greg M
04-14-2012, 07:33 AM
Brilliant!!
Michael Cioni
04-14-2012, 07:35 AM
I like the new features that I have seen, but why two different apps? Can Toadailies do all of what Live Play does in addition to the new features?
2 different apps is necessary bc LiVE PLAY is designed for customized tagging of virtual files whereas Todailies is designed for take-home. Todailies can read all the metadata from LiVE PLAY, but because it doesn't require a cloud network like LiVE PLAY, it is ideal for replacing DVDs and makes iPad viewing much more conducive to user-defined review.
In other words, users use LiVE PLAY for more immediate virtual review and Todailies for take-home review.
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Scott Crawley
04-14-2012, 08:03 AM
Thanks Michael. If I may make my first feature request: Provide the ability for users to add their metadata tags via email, to be imported and integrated on the server side. Or can that be done now?
I presume the ipad synch happens throughout the day. Is it possible to prioritize the users for download access? I'm thinking about the mad dash to download the last reel of the day and getting the right people out the door first.
Before this announcement I was considering a VPN for remote access. This looks much easier and less expensive. The ability to compile selects and build rough cuts on the ipad, and then send that to editing to continue working looks brilliant. Thanks
Bing Bailey
04-14-2012, 08:30 AM
this is incredible and will be used on my next feature
Rosario Balistreri
04-14-2012, 03:01 PM
Just bought and played after few minutes on my new iPad.
Wonderful!
I played with it and with the Server few hours and I've some questions and suggestions.
Since it stores all the videos on the iPad, it's just limited to the iPad capacity?
It supports all the 64GB on the biggest model?
If I want to remove some videos, I've only to slide on the label and click delete... Right? But what If I want it back on my iPad?
I have also few suggestions that, If possible I want to tell directly to the developers, in a way that I can collaborate closely to improve your awesome application.
I'm planning to use it next week on a 1 week and half short, but I want to use it on each future project and I think that we can improve it a lot and make it more flexible to every user.
Waiting for a Private Message from someone at lighiron, or an email at ros.balistreri@gmail.com
Best regards!
Patrick Grossien
04-14-2012, 03:50 PM
Awesome stuff Michael! And at a great price, too!
Do see if you can get the spelling of the title corrected, though. The i switched places with the a to "todialies".
P.s. of the app, not this thread.
Laco Zamba
04-15-2012, 05:20 AM
Is Server working with RED R3D files?
I tried it and nothing happed when I dropped R3D to Root Asset Folder.
In Mac OS Console I found message that R3D is not a movie file. Shot was made with Epic camera.
Rosario Balistreri
04-15-2012, 05:23 AM
Is Server working with RED R3D files?
I tried it and nothing happed when I dropped R3D to Root Asset Folder.
In Mac OS Console I found message that R3D is not a movie file. Shot was made with Epic camera.
You should transcode in H264 ;)
Laco Zamba
04-15-2012, 05:31 AM
You should transcode in H264 ;)
Hopefuly future versions of Server will call RedLine and do it automaticly :-)
Scott Crawley
04-15-2012, 05:39 AM
Hopefuly future versions of Server will call RedLine and do it automaticly :-)
If both your encoder and the Light Iron server are watching your media folder the process can already be automatic.
Gabriele Turchi
04-15-2012, 06:57 AM
so basically the all system works storing the encoded H264 on light irons servers ?
i don't need to store the H264 dailies on ""our""servers ?
thanks
g
Scott Crawley
04-15-2012, 07:03 AM
so basically the all system works storing the encoded H264 on light irons servers ?
i don't need to store the H264 dailies on ""our""servers ?
thanks
g
No, you still keep the files on your own server. The difference is that end users download the footage to their iPads and can then leave the network with a copy of the footy. With Live Play the footage is streamed only.
Gabriele Turchi
04-15-2012, 07:06 AM
thanks
and now the dump question : can the server be my computer connected to internet and so i provide address to todailies ?
or have to be a web FTP storage space ?
thanks
g
Greg M
04-15-2012, 07:12 AM
The server is your computer, as long as they are on same network they will find each other.
Matthias Stöckl
04-18-2012, 02:25 AM
H.264s need to be made by some other method, to which there are infinite possibilities. So hardware assistance for H.264 creation is a great way to do it, then the directory H.264s are served to are automatically to LiVE PLAY and then synced to Todailies. m
I'm totally into LivePlay from the very beginning. But as far as I see it's pretty dependent on the Cube or any encoder that can interprete the record flag in the SDI stream.
I'm now planning a setup where there is no record flag because the camera signal gets pushed through a vision mixer for live keying.
So I assume there is no other way than manually triggering the Cube, which works fairly poor on the browser interface because you don't get any signal if recording/encoding or not.
Are there any alternatives to Teradek's Cube for the proxy recording on the fly?
Brian Merlen
04-26-2012, 06:36 AM
some questions
Does todailies support other formats then h.264? say dnxhd in some flavor? or perhaps one day even r3ds? any plans for this? even if not in this version?
where can i find tech specs and more info about liveplay and todailies? i was at may 2011 reducation remote in nyc so i am familiar with your products, but not a user of them and i just want to find out more info now that i am a scarlet DIT, and not a hobbyist any more...thanks!
Michael Cioni
04-27-2012, 08:13 AM
some questions
Does todailies support other formats then h.264? say dnxhd in some flavor? or perhaps one day even r3ds? any plans for this? even if not in this version?
where can i find tech specs and more info about liveplay and todailies? i was at may 2011 reducation remote in nyc so i am familiar with your products, but not a user of them and i just want to find out more info now that i am a scarlet DIT, and not a hobbyist any more...thanks!
Hi Brian-
As of now, Todailies only supports H.264. One of the reasons is because the iPad is designed as a wireless device, it is not optimized at all to stream files other than the flavors in the H.264 family. For example, the smallest format of DNxHD (36Mbs) would barely be streamable in real-time to a single iPad. The average R3D would be 650Mbs. Impossible to currently stream in real-time to a single iPad. So with current Wifi technology, the issue isn't flavor support, it's file type efficiency. If you can't play an R3D in real-time across the internet, it's going to be difficult to do the same to an iPad, even on a closed network.
You can learn about the system on the lightiron.com website. Check back often as we will be launching a few training videos. In my opinion, some of the best learning is learning that can be done on one's own. This is one of the reasons LiVE PLAY and Todailies are priced at $9.99.
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