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Jarred Land
04-16-2012, 01:03 AM
Alternative to the Module Adaptor that includes an additional RED monitor port plus an Auxiliary power out port.

Come see it in our booth. Shipping in the summer.

Tonaci Tran
04-16-2012, 01:04 AM
So awesome!!! =)

Charlie_Grinnell
04-16-2012, 01:05 AM
perfect!

Justin McAleece
04-16-2012, 01:05 AM
Great idea! Thanks Jarred.

Lawrence Daufenbach
04-16-2012, 01:05 AM
We were just talking about the possibility of something like this coming out, excited to see it tomorrow.

Steve Johnson
04-16-2012, 01:05 AM
GREAT Jarred. This one will be a huge winner. Thanks for this one...

:))

jacob.schwarz
04-16-2012, 01:05 AM
Nice :-) Thanks Jarred! Hope i have a chance to meet you tomorrow.

Mike Gifford
04-16-2012, 01:05 AM
Just what the doctor ordered - thanks Jarred!

Kevin Marshall
04-16-2012, 01:06 AM
And here some people have said that Red don't listen....I think this is a huge improvement to the module adaptor

Häakon
04-16-2012, 01:07 AM
Alternative to the Module Adaptor that includes an additional RED monitor port plus an Auxiliary power out port.

Come see it working in our booth. Shipping in the summer.



Holy crap, yes! It's still alive! Thank you for bringing this to fruition. Sign me up for one yesterday!

Curran Giddens
04-16-2012, 01:07 AM
Red listens to their customers...

Thank you!

Stephen Lovett
04-16-2012, 01:07 AM
For light weight setups this is going to be killer!

Brandon H
04-16-2012, 01:07 AM
Exactly what I need!

Jannard
04-16-2012, 01:07 AM
The people that say we don't listen... suck. :-)

Jim


And here some people have said that Red don't listen....I think this is a huge improvement to the module adaptor

Ketch Rossi
04-16-2012, 01:07 AM
Lots to see tomorrow!!

Sorry I missed you tonight at the REDUSER Party Jarred... see you tomorrow!!

Alex Boothby
04-16-2012, 01:09 AM
GREAT!!!

Brandon J.F.
04-16-2012, 01:09 AM
The beauty of DSMC...

Yannick Sadler
04-16-2012, 01:10 AM
Alternative to the Module Adaptor that includes an additional RED monitor port plus an Auxiliarypower out port.




+++++1

Will Keir
04-16-2012, 01:10 AM
Wasn't dual monitor already a possibility using the LCD port and the HDMI on the bottom?

Cüneyt Kaya
04-16-2012, 01:11 AM
where do i send the thank you gifts?

Tehben Dean
04-16-2012, 01:11 AM
One word. THANK YOU!


Alternative to the Module Adaptor that includes an additional RED monitor port plus an Auxiliary power out port.

Come see it in our booth. Shipping in the summer.

Jarred Land
04-16-2012, 01:11 AM
Wasn't dual monitor already a possibility using the LCD port and the HDMI on the bottom?

Yup.. but this gives you dual RED monitor ports.. single cable that sends both power and Video. So you can use an EVF plus LCD at the same time.. or 2x LCD.. etc. etc. etc.

Kevin Marshall
04-16-2012, 01:12 AM
The people that say we don't listen... suck. :-)

Jim
Yeah, pretty much. I think you guys just blew up the Internet tonight.....live stream, announcements times a billion....wish I could be in Vegas!

Jarred Land
04-16-2012, 01:12 AM
Nice :-) Thanks Jarred! Hope i have a chance to meet you tomorrow.

absolutely...

Tehben Dean
04-16-2012, 01:12 AM
We're talking 2 RED monitors bro!


Wasn't dual monitor already a possibility using the LCD port and the HDMI on the bottom?

EDIT Jarred beat me to it ;)

Rob Ruffo
04-16-2012, 01:18 AM
Price?

Dave Blackham
04-16-2012, 01:18 AM
Great, thats for this.

Tehben Dean
04-16-2012, 01:20 AM
+1?


Price?

Adrian T.
04-16-2012, 01:25 AM
Sounds perfect! Thanks for listening!

Eirik Tyrihjel
04-16-2012, 01:26 AM
Fantastic news, very curious about it´s size/design.

Jarred Land
04-16-2012, 01:27 AM
Fantastic news, very curious about it´s size/design.

Same size as the current adapter module..

Asif Limbada
04-16-2012, 01:29 AM
this is cool

Brandon H
04-16-2012, 01:29 AM
Is there a "THE END" so we know when we can sleep? :)

Jarred Land
04-16-2012, 01:30 AM
you want me to stop? :)

Kevin Marshall
04-16-2012, 01:30 AM
you want me to stop? :)
Never. Some of us are nocturnal...

Brandon H
04-16-2012, 01:31 AM
you want me to stop? :)

No! :)

brett ogden
04-16-2012, 01:31 AM
you want me to stop? :)

HELL NO forget Sleep

Michael Dorn
04-16-2012, 01:31 AM
you want me to stop? :)

Hell no! But I have to agree, it's hard to keep up with you guys

Ketch Rossi
04-16-2012, 01:32 AM
you want me to stop? :)


NO!!

Can't sleep any ways,, I'm so jet legged, and so F@^$^@ing exited... ;)

brett ogden
04-16-2012, 01:32 AM
HELL NO forget Sleep

WE ALL May need some Red energy drink's tomorrow

Tehben Dean
04-16-2012, 01:42 AM
No Price yet?

Hans Magnus Kvåle
04-16-2012, 01:46 AM
All this information, my head will soon explode ;-)

Jannard
04-16-2012, 01:47 AM
Mine did 20 minutes ago...

Jim


All this information, my head will soon explode ;-)

N.D. Paolo
04-16-2012, 01:49 AM
Mine did 20 minutes ago...

Jim

"Red Eyes" , free to Reduser fans tomorrow morning...

Kevin Marshall
04-16-2012, 01:49 AM
All this information, my head will soon explode ;-)
Tell me about it! too many tabs for my browser window right now!

Erich Ocean
04-16-2012, 01:52 AM
I love to see RED able to deliver likes this now. It's clear Jim has had this vision for a loooong time, and now finally, it's here. I love seeing someone succeed like that, and so publicly. A life well lived. :-)

Jason Wingrove
04-16-2012, 01:55 AM
The people that say we don't listen... suck. :-)

Jim




Pure gold
jas

Keith Nealy
04-16-2012, 02:09 AM
If we haven't received our back ordered module adapters yet, can we upgrade to the +1 module adapter instead?

Tehben Dean
04-16-2012, 02:12 AM
If we haven't received our back ordered module adapters yet, can we upgrade to the +1 module adapter instead?

+1k on that!

Adrian T.
04-16-2012, 02:17 AM
If we haven't received our back ordered module adapters yet, can we upgrade to the +1 module adapter instead?

Yes please!

Patrick Grossien
04-16-2012, 02:47 AM
You guys not only listen, but you deliver! You rock! This is so damn exciting. Man gotta go teach, can't keep reading :(

Joe Pontecorvo
04-16-2012, 02:56 AM
Have to stay up to keep up! I can sleep when I'm dead right?

scott william
04-16-2012, 02:58 AM
hi guys,

great items you have announced! very excited. Good work!

Pawel Achtel
04-16-2012, 03:08 AM
Alternative to the Module Adaptor that includes an additional RED monitor port plus an Auxiliary power out port.

Come see it in our booth. Shipping in the summer.




Despite best intentions not everyone can come to NAB. Can we have a picture, please?

Martin Weiss
04-16-2012, 03:21 AM
Again, fantastico!

Now I'll be able to use both Bomb (which I can even upgrade) and LCD/touch in a compact solution, and don't have to use sort-of-ok-middle-solutions.

Thank you, RED!

(Is the module adapter upgradeable? Just asking, not expecting.)

Patrick Tong
04-16-2012, 03:24 AM
GREAT!!!

Mikael Lubtchansky
04-16-2012, 03:55 AM
The people that say we don't listen... suck. :-)

Jim

Thanks for listening, this is exactly what I dreamed of a few months ago :

http://reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?64624-EPIC-QUAD-BATTERY-MODULE&p=840928&viewfull=1#post840928

Nils Ruinet
04-16-2012, 07:04 AM
Yey ! Can't wait for that one ! Thanks for listening :)

Hans von Sonntag
04-16-2012, 07:12 AM
Very good news. Thanks!

Hans

Andreas Mendritzki
04-16-2012, 07:24 AM
Great news!

Jon MIchael Puntervold
04-16-2012, 07:30 AM
Cool!

Shawn Nelson
04-16-2012, 11:51 AM
Price?

Mark Britton
04-16-2012, 12:00 PM
This optional accessory is excellent, turns the module adapter into something merely necessary to gain additional functionality into a unit that is almost indispensible in and of itself.

How do the additional ports interact with other modules attached that have LCD/EVF ports and aux power ports? Which LCD/EVF port(s) would be active if a PRO IO module were attached to this module adapter, for example?

Dennis Guskov
04-16-2012, 12:10 PM
Is there an upgrade path for current Module Adapter owners?
:)

a D-Tap on there would also be greatly appreciated :)

Ben Jackson
04-16-2012, 12:51 PM
So, where's this on the store? This is exactly what I need! Is this in stock at the Hollywood store any time soon (ie. this week, I'm leaving next MOnday). Would need to get some more accessories to allow LCD and EVF to be mounted together as well.

And how much?

GREAT solution - thank you so much :)

Oskari Sipola
04-16-2012, 01:38 PM
I'd also very much like to know if you can exchange the backordered module adaptor in Stage 3 packages for this, paying the difference of course?

Kenneth Williams
04-16-2012, 01:45 PM
+1 ... and swap quad battery mod. for dual battery mo.

Dennis Guskov
04-16-2012, 02:02 PM
Price?
$300+1? :)

+1 ... and swap quad battery mod. for dual battery mo.
I've been barking up that tree too long... I don't think that's gonna happen, sorry

Michael Lindsay
04-16-2012, 02:07 PM
I'd also very much like to know if you can exchange the backordered module adaptor in Stage 3 packages for this, paying the difference of course?

I think this unlikely... those who took stage 3 benefited massively with a very genourous subsidy. What may be sliglty more likely is if Red offered to upgrade for a 'good for both parties' price

regards

Michael L

Zach Gray
04-16-2012, 02:07 PM
+1 ... and swap quad battery mod. for dual battery mo.

This would be very good for us too, and willing to wait, and pay whatever additional premium for that module. We've had a bomb EVF since delivery that we've never used since we are missing the redmote.

We're planning to get the proIO eventually, but this would really help the small config in the short term.

Oskari Sipola
04-16-2012, 02:24 PM
Of course the difference can be more than the difference in Red's sales prices, but I don't see how they would benefit from sending us a piece of gear we don't need and will never use, when instead they could sell the gear to someone who wants it, and sell us a different piece for more money. Since the Stage 3 payments are done and nothing will be deducted from them, I can only see an upside for all if we'll be able to change backordered items for additional payment.

Kevin Marshall
04-16-2012, 02:25 PM
Redmote can dock on the back of this?
I don't see why not...it's the same as the other module adaptor (and the back is the same as all of the other modules)

pic (via tonaci): http://via.me/-pkfuua

Robert Hofmeyr
04-16-2012, 02:33 PM
Perhaps those still waiting on the Quad and Module Adapter can opt to receive the Dual and +1 instead?

Jeremy Forni
04-16-2012, 04:42 PM
great idea..

Gunleik Groven
04-16-2012, 04:44 PM
Good! Simple as that...

Michael Lindsay
04-16-2012, 04:52 PM
what about those earlier adopters who have already recived their adapter and quad battery module?

Tom Gleeson
04-16-2012, 08:08 PM
If we haven't received our back ordered module adapters yet, can we upgrade to the +1 module adapter instead?

That would be freakin' awesome! Happy to pay the difference but the standard module adaptor is worthless compared to this baby.

Rob Castiglione
04-16-2012, 08:09 PM
I have yet to receive my module adapter/quad and I hope that Red can make an upgrade path to the new adapter work. it would be so silly to have to order a new one as well and never use the old one.

Brook Willard
04-16-2012, 08:15 PM
I am so excited about this puppy...

Paul Nordin
04-16-2012, 08:17 PM
I am so excited about this puppy...

Yep, this is going to fit the sweet spot for a lot of people who only need a little more I/O (in this case, O)

Häakon
04-16-2012, 09:03 PM
Here's a photo of the module for those wanting an idea of the layout. The power tap is a small lemo connection... very appreciated. This will be an exceptionally handy module. Sorry for the shitty quality; it was under glass at a weird angle and the only camera I had on me was my iPhone.

Jarred Land
04-16-2012, 09:04 PM
I have yet to receive my module adapter/quad and I hope that Red can make an upgrade path to the new adapter work. it would be so silly to have to order a new one as well and never use the old one.

No swapping out adapters :)

Oskari Sipola
04-16-2012, 09:12 PM
Not even for additional payment? I'm sorry, but I don't understand how it benefits anyone.

nick allsop
04-16-2012, 09:15 PM
Could we pay to have them upgraded like the bomb EVF upgrade?

Tim Whitcomb
04-16-2012, 09:28 PM
Guys I am at NAB - they are completey different module adapters and would be
Probably stupid expensive and a PIA to upgrade. The quad module X package was
part of X and not changeable . Jarred added a smile but this shit annoys him
Stop pushing a very generous company. THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION
sell the old one and buy the new one. :)

nick allsop
04-16-2012, 09:34 PM
Thanks Tim i just needed to make double sure before i ordered one. This is a must have item.

Kevin Wild
04-16-2012, 09:48 PM
I agree with Tim. RED is extremely generous about this stuff, so let's pick our battles. This new module adaptor is awesome. Let's keep in mind they created it because of user feedback. They shouldn't in turn be criticized for upgrading it without an upgrade.

I will put the old one with my CF Card reader and many other things I don't use any more. ;-)

Kevin

Rob Castiglione
04-16-2012, 09:55 PM
Ok. Well, had to give it a go. I am actually thrilled at the new adapter.

Daniel Reed
04-16-2012, 10:13 PM
The people that say we don't listen... suck. :-)

Jim

+11

Rob Ruffo
04-16-2012, 10:28 PM
Guys I am at NAB - they are completey different module adapters and would be
Probably stupid expensive and a PIA to upgrade. The quad module X package was
part of X and not changeable . Jarred added a smile but this shit annoys him
Stop pushing a very generous company. THERE IS A SIMPLE SOLUTION
sell the old one and buy the new one. :)

Plus +1/ It P----s me off to see how greedy and ungrateful some people are here sometimes. It really does. And I am no knee-jerk fanboy of anything or anyone. I am brutally honest and not out to win any popularity contests as any of you who read my posts know. But Red treats their customers with old-school gentlemen's respect in a way that I thought no longer even existed in my time. That respect should be mutual.

Patrick Grossien
04-17-2012, 02:14 AM
If you just bought one and don't want the simple one anymore: just put up your old adapters for sale. And do it cheap!
I would guess there are a couple of people - especially scarlet owners - who would like to have one at a super small price.

You don't have to let the dust settle on these and get at least some of the money back which isn't the worst thing in the world. hehe

If you were one of the lucky ones to get it with an EPIC X stage: shut up ! ;)
These stages were so damn generous I don't even know where to start! Look at what an EPIC X costs now, and rethink the comments ;)

Patrick Grossien
04-17-2012, 02:17 AM
Oh BTW, can I please upgrade my 64GB cards ? I heard they have 512 ones coming out! :D hehehe!
sorry, couldn't resist

Patrick Grossien
04-17-2012, 02:19 AM
Ok. Well, had to give it a go. I am actually thrilled at the new adapter.

Though I do understand, that asking doesn't normally hurt!

Mike Halper
04-17-2012, 02:40 AM
This may be a bizarre question... can two +1 Adapters be used together? For example, if I removed the Side SSD Module and installed a Rear SSD Module, could I use 2 +1's to use LCD and EVF at the same time? Also, is it possible to have and EVF and 2 LCD's working such as with the Side SSD Module LCD/EVF out, +1 Adapter LCD/EVF out, and Pro IO LCD/EVF out? Thanks for answering all the questions.

Antoine Baumann
04-17-2012, 03:57 AM
Has price been published yet?

Häakon
04-17-2012, 06:33 AM
Has price been published yet?
No.

Jarred Land
04-17-2012, 10:49 AM
Has price been published yet?

It likely will land around the price of the rear SSD module.. waiting for 2 more bits of info.

Nook Kim
04-17-2012, 12:09 PM
Can i use two of these at the same time?

Oskari Sipola
04-17-2012, 01:27 PM
Oh BTW, can I please upgrade my 64GB cards ? I heard they have 512 ones coming out! :D hehehe!
sorry, couldn't resist

You do understand that we are not talking about gear that has been delivered? All these items have been backordered for months.

I just don't understand why Red wants to send its customers gear that they don't want or need, especially when nobody is asking for their money back. But that's just me.

Ben Jackson
04-17-2012, 01:35 PM
I ordered a Scarlet back in November, then when they released Epic-X in December, I ordered that instead, and my bomb squad rep cancelled my BACKORDERED Scarlet order at my request.

Why wouldn't it be the same here? I don't understand why it wouldn't be. Shouldn't you be able to just cancel your order for anything you don't want that hasn't been delivered yet?

Patrick Grossien
04-17-2012, 01:48 PM
You do understand that we are not talking about gear that has been delivered? All these items have been backordered for months.

I just don't understand why Red wants to send its customers gear that they don't want or need, especially when nobody is asking for their money back. But that's just me.

That's a totally different story!
I was referring to sending back the adaptor to get a refund for the +1.

Just not having it delivered, sounds like it should be manageable.

Ben Jackson
04-17-2012, 01:49 PM
I think it's unfair on RED for us to expect refunds/exchanges for items delivered. But yeah, cancelling a backordered item, should be a different story...surely???? I don't have the module I'm just chiming in. Can't wait for the +1 though, this is my #1 favourite new product released! Can't wait for more details.

Häakon
04-17-2012, 08:30 PM
only one +1 adapter per camera, remember it hijacks the HDMI port.
I hadn't caught this posted before... when you say it 'hijacks' the HDMI port, does it actually connect into it or just disable it? Since the camera doesn't allow for HD-SDI and HDMI at the same time, and the HDMI port is now "in use," does it also disable the HD-SDI port?

Greg M
04-17-2012, 08:39 PM
You do understand that we are not talking about gear that has been delivered? All these items have been backordered for months.

I just don't understand why Red wants to send its customers gear that they don't want or need, especially when nobody is asking for their money back. But that's just me.

You bought a bundled package...kinda late to say you dont want it. You shouldn't have ordered it if you didn't want it.
You basically received these parts for free...so expecting a store credit is not reasonable. In essence Your telling Red, thanks for the free gift but no thanks...I want a better gift.

Think about what this would mean to Red...they manufacture X number of parts that have all been pre-ordered by customers. Now you dont want your pre-ordered part. So Red would be stuck with all these parts and to add insult to injury, they now have to give you parts that are in demand and could generate additional sales. Its a pretty crappy request. You bought it, suck it up and resell it if you dont want it.

Reds mistake was not charging us the full sale price when they shipped the camera. Instead, they did us a favor and broke down the costs and charged as shipped...but the reality is the module was a gift, so there is no store credit to give us. It just looks that way because we still owe a balance of $1500.

Jeremy Forni
04-18-2012, 01:39 PM
@ Greg

Sorry but i totally disagree with you if we don't reveived our old module adaptor..is in backorder since 6 month. ..Why we have to pay it if we won't use it. This new option that " THE " solution that missing is our configuration...I want use our Old LCD of RED MX on my new EPIC X. that the for QUAT ADAPTOR we can't wait anymore for powered our EPIC we just bougth a V-MOUNT by VIEWFACTOR

I'm totaly agree with Ben jackson

Stephen Williams
04-18-2012, 01:47 PM
I ordered a Scarlet back in November, then when they released Epic-X in December, I ordered that instead, and my bomb squad rep cancelled my BACKORDERED Scarlet order at my request.

Why wouldn't it be the same here? I don't understand why it wouldn't be. Shouldn't you be able to just cancel your order for anything you don't want that hasn't been delivered yet?

Sure you were paying the full price, so you can get a refund, the people moaning got an Epic X plus accessories for 10,000 plus a 3 year old camera as trade in.
Those same people are dissapointed they find it difficult to sell their new camera for 44k, they paid 27,500 & early adopters got a 2500 accesory discount. They have also used their cameras for upto 4 years. Reality check is needed here.

Michael Lindsay
04-18-2012, 02:33 PM
This module really looks great for the lghtweight MOS shoots that need all the monitoring options... It also makes the Redvolt battery modules much more attractive.

Quick question:

Is the power output regulated?
how much can we pull out of it?
Will it work only when Red volts and Redbricks are used or will it be ok with 3rd party.... (we have Redvolts, Redbricks and for traveling 3rd party V-locks)

thank you

Michael L

Michael Lindsay
04-18-2012, 02:35 PM
I just looked up the price of the vanila module adapter!!! it is only $300 ? I can't believe anyone is expecting this to be upgradeable...

Stephen Williams
04-18-2012, 03:16 PM
I just looked up the price of the vanila module adapter!!! it is only $300 ? I can't believe anyone is expecting this to be upgradeable...


It's not as if they even paid $300 , it was basically a gift!

Michael Hastings
04-18-2012, 03:25 PM
It's not as if they even paid $300 , it was basically a gift!

It wasn't a gift, it was a part of a package that has turned out to be a really good deal - but we did pay substantial dollars to get in the game and wait a long time - so it wasn't free. However, specific to the discussion, I think people need to realize that even though they may be backordered they are in production and were part of the resource allocation so to back out and stick Red with that effort and inventory isn't fair to RED either - and not necessarily good for us either because it would inhibit them in the future on responding to added features that are requested - they would just wait until all the old model are delivered and then announce a new version. This way we get a shot at it as soon as possible.

For those that feel a little burned, I suggest that there will still be a significant used market selling to people that are buying scarlet or epic base packages and want to add modules but don't need the power tap yet. I didn't really want a PL mount with my epic since I virtually never use PL lenses - but it worked out in that I sold it for $1750 - which basically paid for my Optitek Nikon mount and my new Red Nikon mount. In other words, this stuff tends to work out okay.

Michael Lindsay
04-18-2012, 03:26 PM
It's not as if they even paid $300 , it was basically a gift!

music, films and computer software is free.... why not cameras?

;-)

Matt Gottshalk
04-18-2012, 04:10 PM
So awesome.

Häakon
04-18-2012, 05:35 PM
The way I see it, the current module adapter isn't doing anything for the customer except adding length to our cameras. Originally, I thought a power tap solution would have to be an additional module on top of needing the module adapter. Now we have a solution that replaces the "dummy" module entirely AND we get a bonus viewing port as well. I'm beyond thrilled. Don't buy it if you don't want it, but RED did listen to us and deliver a power tap solution outside of the Meizler module and for that I am extremely grateful.

Rob Castiglione
04-18-2012, 05:38 PM
+1 Haakon

Jordi Figueras
04-18-2012, 05:40 PM
The way I see it, the current module adapter isn't doing anything for the customer except adding length to our cameras. Originally, I thought a power tap solution would have to be an additional module on top of needing the module adapter. Now we have a solution that replaces the "dummy" module entirely AND we get a bonus viewing port as well. I'm beyond thrilled. Don't buy it if you don't want it, but RED did listen to us and deliver a power tap solution outside of the Meizler module and for that I am extremely grateful.

+1.000

Oskari Sipola
04-18-2012, 06:59 PM
You bought a bundled package...kinda late to say you dont want it. You shouldn't have ordered it if you didn't want it.
You basically received these parts for free...so expecting a store credit is not reasonable. In essence Your telling Red, thanks for the free gift but no thanks...I want a better gift.

Think about what this would mean to Red...they manufacture X number of parts that have all been pre-ordered by customers. Now you dont want your pre-ordered part. So Red would be stuck with all these parts and to add insult to injury, they now have to give you parts that are in demand and could generate additional sales. Its a pretty crappy request. You bought it, suck it up and resell it if you dont want it.

They should stop making them if they can't sell them. And I would think they will, since there will be so many second hand units for sale at ridiculous prices. Thus the suggestion (not a request) is not crappy, nor is it unreasonable, the logic behind it is sound and people here get overheated for absolutely no reason. The tone of your post comes very close to insulting, so I would ask you to consider what you write.

Oskari Sipola
04-18-2012, 07:03 PM
The way I see it, the current module adapter isn't doing anything for the customer except adding length to our cameras. Originally, I thought a power tap solution would have to be an additional module on top of needing the module adapter. Now we have a solution that replaces the "dummy" module entirely AND we get a bonus viewing port as well. I'm beyond thrilled. Don't buy it if you don't want it, but RED did listen to us and deliver a power tap solution outside of the Meizler module and for that I am extremely grateful.

I agree; the new unit is infinitely more useful than the old one, a great innovation. Worth the price, whatever it will be.

Evin Grant
04-18-2012, 07:46 PM
Jarred, can the +1 module adapter and wireless transmitter module be used together? I know the +1 hijacks the HDMI output I'm wondering if that effects the transmitter since the proto I saw in the case seemed to be hooked up to the HDMI port.

Casey Green
04-18-2012, 07:53 PM
RED announces:

+1 Module
PRO IO Module
Meizler Module
Wireless Video Module
Dual Battery Module
Rear SSD Module
Upgraded Bomb EVF
9" Touch Screen
Leica M Mount
Shipping Al Canon Mount
Nikon Mounts Al and Ti
REDMote V-Mount
Wheel Side Handle
MatteBox Triple Stage adapter and new 95mm and 104mm adapter rings
New 512GB Turbo and 32GB optimized/priced for EPIC/Scarlet specs and price points
Camera Firmware Update: Including new Auto Focus Algorithm Updates
REDCine-X Build 13: Including RED Player Software & Photoshop Plugin
AJA / BlackMagic support coming soon for REDCine-X
6K Dragon Sensor upgrade (15+ stops, 120fps@Full 5K)
Free EPIC-M to EPIC-X upgrade program
RED Ray 4K/120fps/Tablet Controlled player
4K / 2K-3D Laser Projector
... and a Screening of a 3D short by Ridley Scott and Luke Scott.

And people are complaining about what?

Thank you RED for listening and developing these incredible additions to this Camera program. We look forward to making the best of what you have in store!

James McLellan
04-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Jarred, can the +1 module adapter and wireless transmitter module be used together? I know the +1 hijacks the HDMI output I'm wondering if that effects the transmitter since the proto I saw in the case seemed to be hooked up to the HDMI port.

+1

The video I saw looked like it was hooked up to the HD/SDI. Although I seem to recall you can only do one or the other.

Häakon
04-18-2012, 08:36 PM
+1

The video I saw looked like it was hooked up to the HD/SDI. Although I seem to recall you can only do one or the other.
The wireless receiver was connected to the monitor via HDMI. I spoke at length with Bob, the head designer of the wireless system, and he said an HD-SDI version will likely follow in the future (along with some other enhancements). Note that you don't connect the camera's HDMI port to the wireless module or anything... the brain passes along a video signal through the modules and it gets transmitted to the receiver that way.

Brigham Edgar
04-18-2012, 08:58 PM
Was there any indication when this is going to hit the store for pre-order or is it a 'it's in the store and available now'? And price...did i read something around the same as the rear SSD module...$1200 was it?

Daniel Stilling
04-19-2012, 08:24 AM
Note that you don't connect the camera's HDMI port to the wireless module or anything... the brain passes along a video signal through the modules and it gets transmitted to the receiver that way.

This needs clarification, as I was talking to (I believe it was) Bob, and he told me that the transmitter got signal from the HDMI port as the hot contacts on the brain do not pass video. I hope I got wrong info...

Nick Wernham
04-19-2012, 10:13 AM
I hadn't caught this posted before... when you say it 'hijacks' the HDMI port, does it actually connect into it or just disable it? Since the camera doesn't allow for HD-SDI and HDMI at the same time, and the HDMI port is now "in use," does it also disable the HD-SDI port?
I'm really interested to learn more about this too. I'd like to be able to use the touchscreen, EVF and my Small HD DP6-SDI at the same time. Is this possible?

[EDIT]Alternatively, does the Pro I/O module "hijack" the HDMI or HD-SDI ports?

Gunleik Groven
04-19-2012, 10:28 AM
The people that say we don't listen... suck. :-)

Jim

One for the quotes, Martin?

Bob Gundu
04-19-2012, 01:32 PM
Word is all ports will be working all the time eventually. Be patient :)

ORMARO
04-20-2012, 01:24 AM
Thats really cool, i can't wait to have it in my hand, thx a lot

orlando

Patrick Grossien
04-20-2012, 01:31 AM
The wireless receiver was connected to the monitor via HDMI. I spoke at length with Bob, the head designer of the wireless system, and he said an HD-SDI version will likely follow in the future (along with some other enhancements). Note that you don't connect the camera's HDMI port to the wireless module or anything... the brain passes along a video signal through the modules and it gets transmitted to the receiver that way.

Häakon, thats great! Thanks for the info. So that means there will be an HD-SDI receiver for the same wireless module?
So you won't have to exchange the whole thing, just exchange the receiver, correct? I like that modular concept ;)

Chosei Funahara
04-20-2012, 09:09 AM
Must have item, my DP and director will be sooooo happy, and I am happy too, my early retirement got postponed, back to work, back to spend $ again!

Mark Pedersen
04-20-2012, 09:53 PM
RED announces:

+1 Module
PRO IO Module
Meizler Module
Wireless Video Module
Dual Battery Module
Rear SSD Module
Upgraded Bomb EVF
9" Touch Screen
Leica M Mount
Shipping Al Canon Mount
Nikon Mounts Al and Ti
REDMote V-Mount
Wheel Side Handle
MatteBox Triple Stage adapter and new 95mm and 104mm adapter rings
New 512GB Turbo and 32GB optimized/priced for EPIC/Scarlet specs and price points
Camera Firmware Update: Including new Auto Focus Algorithm Updates
REDCine-X Build 13: Including RED Player Software & Photoshop Plugin
AJA / BlackMagic support coming soon for REDCine-X
6K Dragon Sensor upgrade (15+ stops, 120fps@Full 5K)
Free EPIC-M to EPIC-X upgrade program
RED Ray 4K/120fps/Tablet Controlled player
4K / 2K-3D Laser Projector
... and a Screening of a 3D short by Ridley Scott and Luke Scott.

And people are complaining about what?

Thank you RED for listening and developing these incredible additions to this Camera program. We look forward to making the best of what you have in store!

Here Here! When you see this list, it becomes very apparent that RED listens to its customers, and has delivered an amazing number of solutions for the RED community at NAB. And the genius of EPIC modularity becomes crystal clear.

Thanks RED!

M

Dennis Guskov
04-21-2012, 05:13 AM
It likely will land around the price of the rear SSD module.. waiting for 2 more bits of info.

So, $300 vs ~1250?
Nicely played, I'm out :)
damn!

well, maybe next year...

Paul Ellington
04-21-2012, 08:40 AM
Alternative to the Module Adaptor that includes an additional RED monitor port plus an Auxiliary power out port.

Come see it in our booth. Shipping in the summer.





A beaming RED square shone brightly and the rest of NAB was covered in a cloud of dust, empty booths, cameras 6 years too late, and bloodbath...

Shane Kelly
04-21-2012, 09:24 AM
A beaming RED square shone brightly and the rest of NAB was covered in a cloud of dust, empty booths, cameras 6 years too late, and bloodbath...

Sony, panasonic and arri looked pretty busy to me. Jvc, however.....

Jack Shanahan
04-21-2012, 04:17 PM
So, $300 vs ~1250?
Nicely played, I'm out :)
damn!

well, maybe next year...


yeah 1250 would be a heavy hit for adding an EVF port

Roberto Lequeux
04-26-2012, 12:58 PM
cool :)

Bob Gundu
04-26-2012, 01:00 PM
...and a power tap :)
Doesn't this also take the place of the dummy module?


yeah 1250 would be a heavy hit for adding an EVF port

Bérenger Brillante
04-26-2012, 01:10 PM
I would have thought like 700-800 but 1250 is a lot for a lonely evf port. I will take it anyway, but ouch, that hurts.

Guidofilippi
04-26-2012, 02:52 PM
I would have thought like 700-800 but 1250 is a lot for a lonely evf port. I will take it anyway, but ouch, that hurts.

That´s was my reckon too... something between 600 and 900...
And yes... it hurts.
Guido

Blair S. Paulsen
04-26-2012, 03:03 PM
Pricing is relative. For example, the color viewfinder for the Sony F65 is $13,000...

Just sayin'

Cheers - #19

Bob Rudis
04-29-2012, 08:47 PM
How many amps is that power lemo? is there fuse in this thing?

Tehben Dean
04-29-2012, 09:45 PM
yeah 1250 would be a heavy hit for adding an EVF port

Hmm yeah, that does take it out of the "sweet!" "no-brainer" category....

eric a wahl
05-02-2012, 12:25 PM
I am ready to order the +1 adapter, excellent option!!!!

Andy White
06-25-2012, 05:53 PM
Jarred

Just a bump on this thread to see if there's been any more info/price clarifications or release updates etc?

Thanks.

Andy

Eirik Tyrihjel
06-25-2012, 06:02 PM
Hope to see this very soon, using evf and lcd is the last thing on the very important list to unlock!

Andy White
06-25-2012, 07:38 PM
Hope to see this very soon, using evf and lcd is the last thing on the very important list to unlock!

+1 :) - rather have this than the Pro I/O.

Just depends on release dates.

Edward Blythe
06-25-2012, 08:42 PM
Please in the name of all that is holy. My EVF is so sad.

Rob Castiglione
06-25-2012, 10:11 PM
I think that, sadly, December was the scheduled release date.

Scott Summers
07-21-2012, 10:34 AM
December? Jarreds post says shipping in the summer. July/Aug right?

Nook Kim
07-26-2012, 08:31 PM
Any updates on this please, Red?

kylebainter
08-07-2012, 11:53 AM
Any updates on this please, Red?

+1 on this

Stivan Widick
08-07-2012, 11:58 AM
December, according to the May Product Delivery Update, a little over halfway down the list:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?78486-May-Product-Delivery-Update

Rocco Schult
08-14-2012, 03:23 AM
Thanks for updating and to complete the sentence:
+1

Jon MIchael Puntervold
09-10-2012, 01:29 PM
Oh, I wish it came yesterday. D-tap and extra monitor/evf plug, will make the Epic perfect for most uses. A nice balanced shoulder cam with the quad module, evf & touch screen for the operator & b-photo, d-tap for extra accessories...

Jeremy Forni
10-22-2012, 08:29 PM
@Jon MIchael Puntervold totally agree

sergio arguello
10-22-2012, 09:56 PM
what? 1250? says who?

Bob Gundu
10-22-2012, 10:19 PM
what? 1250? says who?

Says Jarred.

Jeremy Forni
11-03-2012, 06:30 AM
some more news ??

Jon MIchael Puntervold
11-03-2012, 06:39 AM
I sincerely hope it's not delayed... it's the most important piece of the puzzle. At least in my puzzle.

Alex Veitch
11-03-2012, 07:06 AM
Would a splitter cable work to give a feed to the EVF and LCD? I'm guessing not since no-one seems to have made one, but you never know? Otherwise, its a final part of the puzzle for me too.

Bob Gundu
11-03-2012, 07:36 AM
I thought I would want both but I realized its just going to cost me more in battery drain.

Mike Kushner
11-03-2012, 07:41 AM
a little late in my opinion

Jarred Land
11-03-2012, 12:12 PM
Prototypes are out in the field. :)

Andy White
11-03-2012, 12:32 PM
Prototypes are out in the field. :)

Damn you Sir! You tease with this information :)

Louis Maddalena
11-03-2012, 12:49 PM
Prototypes are out in the field. :)


Can't wait. will be purchasing!

Daniel Stilling
11-03-2012, 12:52 PM
Is it correct that the +1 uses the HDMI port from the body to create the extra evf/LCD port?

Blair S. Paulsen
11-03-2012, 12:55 PM
Ready to order...

Cheers - #19

brett ogden
11-03-2012, 12:55 PM
Prototypes are out in the field. :)

This is Great jarred!

P.S would you mine doing a "NAB product Update" on all the cool stuff from NAB...;)

Jon MIchael Puntervold
11-03-2012, 12:59 PM
Prototypes are out in the field. :)

Cool!!! May you share a picture with us? I'm so curious about how it looks... :)

jacob.schwarz
11-03-2012, 12:59 PM
Prototypes are out in the field. :)


Jarred, if you have an more protypes you needed tested let me know ;-)

Michael Lindsay
11-03-2012, 01:33 PM
Prototypes are out in the field. :)

Any chance of a photo? To see the position of the ports...

Thanks

Michael

Tim Buchheister
11-03-2012, 01:40 PM
Next summer is too late, would have needed it from the very first second on. Sorry

Jon MIchael Puntervold
11-03-2012, 02:29 PM
Next summer is too late, would have needed it from the very first second on. Sorry

I agree that it should have been available in a perfect world, but I don't think anyone has mentioned next summer?

Jarred Land
11-03-2012, 02:32 PM
Next summer is too late, would have needed it from the very first second on. Sorry

Check your attitude Tim.

It wont be next summer Small qty going out in December and mass production at the beginning of Feb.

Andy White
11-03-2012, 02:32 PM
I thought it was still on for Xmas....

Andy White
11-03-2012, 02:33 PM
Check your attitude Tim.

It wont be next summer Small qty going out in December and mass production at the beginning of Feb.

So, the small quantity list... first come first served? :)

Jarred Land
11-03-2012, 02:34 PM
Jarred, if you have an more protypes you needed tested let me know ;-)

Where do you live again? If it is anywhere close you have a deal.. next one that gets built up in a week or two ill make sure you can take it for a swing for a couple days.

Email me Jarred@red.com

The prototypes only work with Camera build 4 right now.... which is going to blow alot of your minds.

Jarred Land
11-03-2012, 02:38 PM
So, the small quantity list... first come first served? :)

Early Epic-M guys get all the love..

Andy White
11-03-2012, 02:40 PM
Early Epic-M guys get all the love..

Oh well - that's me out of the first batch.

Epic-X Dec 2011.

Bob Gundu
11-03-2012, 02:41 PM
As they should.... they have paved they way for us :)


Early Epic-M guys get all the love..

Jarred Land
11-03-2012, 02:42 PM
Oh well - that's me out of the first batch.

Epic-X Dec 2011.

heh heh well don't give up complete hope.. alot of those guys have Miezler module or Pro IO on their list so many may pass on the +1..

Andy White
11-03-2012, 02:44 PM
heh heh well don't give up complete hope.. alot of those guys have Miezler module or Pro IO on their list so many may pass on the +1..

LOL - I'll keep all fingers & toes crossed then!

Brice Ansel
11-03-2012, 02:52 PM
The prototypes only work with Camera build 4 right now.... which is going to blow alot of your minds.
Build 4...Nice music to my ears. :-)
Timelapse long exposure and so on...
B.

Jason Beckwith
11-03-2012, 03:04 PM
If it's using the HDMI port, will I still be able to use the HD-SDI for client monitor?

Ideal situation has me framing with the EVF, AC using the LCD, and clients happily watching 50 feet away on a big field monitor.

Last time I checked you could use HDMI, or HD-SDI, but not both.

I also run my Atomos Samurai about half the time...

Daniel Stilling
11-03-2012, 03:08 PM
You have been able to use simultaneous HDMI and HDSDI for a while now.
my issue is that if it uses HDMI it would block the port for my Arrow transmitter and would make it a less than perfect solution...

Adam Welch
11-03-2012, 03:13 PM
The prototypes only work with Camera build 4 right now.... which is going to blow alot of your minds.

Any hints to when we might be seeing this build?

Antoine Baumann
11-03-2012, 03:20 PM
last release build added hdmi and sdi at the same time. But yeah i need both, hdmi for the arrow!

Christopher Probst
11-03-2012, 03:34 PM
Early Epic-M guys get all the love..

I'd love to get my paws on one as well, if that's possible...

Stacey Spears
11-03-2012, 05:54 PM
Early Epic-M guys get all the love..

Look forward to it!

Kevin Marshall
11-03-2012, 05:57 PM
I don't think anybody's mentioned it using the HDMI port...pretty sure it just feeds off of the module connection, like the Pro IO...

Björn Benckert
11-03-2012, 06:06 PM
Please Jarred let us see at least a picture of the prototype.

Shervin Mandgaryan
11-03-2012, 06:31 PM
Please Jarred let us see at least a picture of the prototype.

Yes please... we all need to feed our erections.

jacob.schwarz
11-03-2012, 09:39 PM
Email sent!

Also i've been in the mood for a good mind blowing! Bring on Build 4.


Where do you live again? If it is anywhere close you have a deal.. next one that gets built up in a week or two ill make sure you can take it for a swing for a couple days.

Email me Jarred@red.com

The prototypes only work with Camera build 4 right now.... which is going to blow alot of your minds.

Dennis Guskov
11-04-2012, 02:20 PM
alot of those guys have Miezler module or Pro IO on their list so many may pass on the +1..

Does it not work with Pro IO Jarred? What if I need to go triple display, e.g. an evf and 2 LCDs (hypothetically speaking)? Would that not work?

Antoine Baumann
11-06-2012, 09:45 AM
SO if I understand correctly we don't need the module adaptor to add this +1 module, it goes directly to the Epic. Is that correct?
Thanks a lot

kylebainter
11-06-2012, 09:49 AM
I'm really looking forward to this as well... Finally my 7" LCD will be getting some LOVE!!!

Peter Majtan
11-14-2012, 12:23 AM
Bump. Any ETA on this? I am waiting for this to buy the 9" Touch...

Rocco Schult
11-17-2012, 08:35 AM
SO if I understand correctly we don't need the module adaptor to add this +1 module, it goes directly to the Epic. Is that correct?
Thanks a lot

Hi Antoine!-)
It's not a module, it is a modified/new adaptor!
cheers

Ian McGrew
11-17-2012, 08:37 AM
It's not anything until is for sale...

Rocco Schult
11-17-2012, 08:37 AM
heh heh well don't give up complete hope.. alot of those guys have Miezler module or Pro IO on their list so many may pass on the +1..

Jarred, any news ?
There was talk of end of year once, is this still actual ?
Most under-appreciated 'module' !

Jeremy Forni
11-21-2012, 05:16 PM
Any chance to have the +1 in 2012 ?

Antoine MARTEAU
11-24-2012, 06:36 AM
Any chance to have the + in 2012 ?

+1

Antoine

Trevor Meeks
11-27-2012, 10:53 PM
Would really appreciate an update. I'm in dire need of one of these....

steve green
11-27-2012, 11:27 PM
Any chance to have the +1 in 2012 ?


Nothing in the works more important (except Dragon) IMO......any update would be appreciated.

Daniel Doherty
11-28-2012, 09:15 AM
+1

yes, please

Sean Solowiej
11-29-2012, 10:24 AM
+1!

Jarred Land
11-29-2012, 01:01 PM
Feb 28th.

Patrick Grossien
11-29-2012, 01:13 PM
Oh these exact dates :) poor Jarred - you let them push you... ;)

Jarred Land
11-29-2012, 01:14 PM
Oh these exact dates :) poor Jarred - you let them push you... ;)

ha ha a well deserved push :)

Patrick Grossien
11-29-2012, 01:22 PM
ha ha a well deserved push :)

hehehe maybe you are right on that one .

so let me have a go: what about the julebox? hehehe

Christopher Barrett
11-29-2012, 01:23 PM
I've condensed this thread for the sake of brevity.


http://christopherbarrett.net/forum_images/plusOne.jpg



CB <-- Smartass

Bob Gundu
11-29-2012, 02:17 PM
When are we getting the +2 adapter???

Ha ha.. just kidding!

Blair S. Paulsen
11-29-2012, 02:39 PM
I guess I need to scrape together the cost of the Pro IO as an alternative - it offers other valuable capabilities as well so its worth it. Its just so darn big. Better head back to the gym ;-)

Cheers - #19

Pawel Achtel
11-29-2012, 02:44 PM
Feb 28th.

Thank you! I've been waiting for this one too.

Shervin Mandgaryan
11-29-2012, 03:58 PM
When are we getting the +2 adapter???

Ha ha.. just kidding!

That's available the day after on February 29th.


2016....

Peter Matthes
11-29-2012, 04:12 PM
If you have an Epic/Scarlet brain ... this +1 Monitor Adaptor ... and the Pro I/O attached as a trio ... can you utilize three Red EVF/LCD devices running simultaneously?

Has that been tested yet?

Kemalettin Sert
11-29-2012, 04:17 PM
where is the pic?

Isaac Marchionna
11-29-2012, 07:08 PM
Jarred, mind clarifying if the auxiliary power out is in the form of a D-Tap? Or something else? If this is the case then it's time for me to invest in some RED VOLT XLs.

Bob Gundu
11-29-2012, 07:14 PM
where is the pic?


http://www.reduser.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=24139&d=1334631767

Isaac Marchionna
11-29-2012, 07:16 PM
Well...that's some sneaky shit right there.

Now how I get from that power output to a PIX 240 is a little beyond me.

Trevor Meeks
11-30-2012, 04:28 AM
Well...that's some sneaky shit right there.

Now how I get from that power output to a PIX 240 is a little beyond me.

Should be very easy to make a custom cable. The connector (~$40-$50) will be the most expensive part.


That is... when the thing finally ships in 2016. :banghead:

Patrick Grossien
11-30-2012, 04:36 AM
I've condensed this thread for the sake of brevity.

CB <-- Smartass

You forgot to add the picture ;)

EDIT: BTW sometimes I wish I could do that to every thread. hehehee

Jonas Klittmark
12-10-2012, 02:43 AM
Jarred, mind clarifying if the auxiliary power out is in the form of a D-Tap? Or something else? If this is the case then it's time for me to invest in some RED VOLT XLs.

+1
D-tap out is needed or the REDVolt ecosystem will die...

Jarred Land
12-10-2012, 03:01 AM
Sorry Guys.. D-tap is one of the worst things that ever was somehow put into the camera echo system... we are doing our best to get rid of those.. forever. If you really want a D-tap, it is still on the V-Lock battery plate ( for now ) or you can do a Lemo to D-tap adapter.

And yes CB the +1 is late.. No surprise, it is a broken record. But at least I gave a heads up way back when that the Miezler module with Pro-res recording was taking priority over everything at least :)

Jonas Klittmark
12-10-2012, 03:09 AM
Sorry Guys.. D-tap is one of the worst things that ever was somehow put into the camera echo system... we are doing our best to get rid of those.. forever. If you really want a D-tap, it is still on the V-Lock battery plate ( for now ) or you can do a Lemo to D-tap adapter.

And yes CB the +1 is late.. No surprise, it is a broken record. But at least I gave a heads up way back when that the Miezler module with Pro-res recording was taking priority over everything at least :)

Lemo to D-tap adapter sounds fine, Cheers!

Steve Johnson
12-10-2012, 03:20 AM
Sorry Guys.. D-tap is one of the worst things that ever was somehow put into the camera echo system... we are doing our best to get rid of those.. forever. If you really want a D-tap, it is still on the V-Lock battery plate ( for now ) or you can do a Lemo to D-tap adapter.

Interesting. Will mark this up on the "watch" list :)


And yes CB the +1 is late.. No surprise, it is a broken record. But at least I gave a heads up way back when that the Miezler module with Pro-res recording was taking priority over everything at least :)

Don't mind the +1 being late - you guys always make things better anyway :)

Would be amazing if you tell us that the +1 (or the module adaptor :)) has a ProRes recording integrated too

Heh...heh...heh...

:))

brett ogden
12-10-2012, 03:24 AM
Sorry Guys.. D-tap is one of the worst things that ever was somehow put into the camera echo system... we are doing our best to get rid of those.. forever. If you really want a D-tap, it is still on the V-Lock battery plate ( for now ) or you can do a Lemo to D-tap adapter.

And yes CB the +1 is late.. No surprise, it is a broken record. But at least I gave a heads up way back when that the Miezler module with Pro-res recording was taking priority over everything at least :)

Jarred thanks for the Update but aren't you suppose to be on the beach taking it easy? ...;)

Tony Lorentzen
12-10-2012, 01:15 PM
Sorry Guys.. D-tap is one of the worst things that ever was somehow put into the camera echo system... we are doing our best to get rid of those.. forever. If you really want a D-tap, it is still on the V-Lock battery plate ( for now ) or you can do a Lemo to D-tap adapter.

Totally agree. D-tap sucks. Let's agree to get rid of it!


And yes CB the +1 is late.. No surprise, it is a broken record. But at least I gave a heads up way back when that the Miezler module with Pro-res recording was taking priority over everything at least :)

Hm. I really wish you guys would have just prioritized getting the +1 out a long time ago instead of focusing on Meizler because it's such an essential part of the puzzle. Also - it's been working for a long time as far as I know, so I'm not sure why it would be so hard to put into production. Obviously I'm just talking out of my ass, but still... ;-)

Dave Blackham
12-10-2012, 01:17 PM
Totally agree. D-tap sucks. Let's agree to get rid of it!



Hm. I really wish you guys would have just prioritized getting the +1 out a long time ago instead of focusing on Meizler because it's such an essential part of the puzzle. Also - it's been working for a long time as far as I know, so I'm not sure why it would be so hard to put into production. Obviously I'm just talking out of my ass, but still... ;-)

Agreed on both points.

nick allsop
12-10-2012, 04:29 PM
What is so bad about d taps is there something I should know! I've been using either d tap splitters or a d tap to Arri 3pin adapter from my battery plates to power my accessories since getting my Red One.

Isaac Marchionna
12-10-2012, 04:47 PM
I'll probably just have our electronics guys here in the shop make a hirose to lemo connector. I don't have an investment in D-taps so it's a non-issue.

Thanks for getting this +1 module out. The lack of being able to drive the EVF and LCD at once is vexing, but solvable. Thank you.

Rob Anderson
12-11-2012, 03:49 AM
What is so bad about d taps is there something I should know! I've been using either d tap splitters or a d tap to Arri 3pin adapter from my battery plates to power my accessories since getting my Red One.

I'd love to know too. While I'm sure it's true, "d taps suck", I've been using d taps for a few things myself and haven't had any problems with. Lemo's are a much nicer connector, but from all of the disliking of d taps, I assume it goes beyond a form factor issue. Anyone mind spilling the beans on what d taps are so dreaded?

Nick Pasquariello
12-11-2012, 08:50 AM
If I had to guess: D-Taps feel cheap, they disconnect too easily (as opposed to the locking system built into a LEMO connector), and they're too large compared to what they do.

From either manufacturing, R+D, or usability standpoint, that's enough argument to look elsewhere for a solution.

Christopher Barrett
12-11-2012, 09:07 AM
And yes CB the +1 is late.. No surprise, it is a broken record. But at least I gave a heads up way back when that the Miezler module with Pro-res recording was taking priority over everything at least :)

No worries, we still love you guys. Honestly, though, I really don't care when you actually get stuff to market. I have a great system working right now. Everything else you're coming out with is just icing.

Mark Britton
12-11-2012, 09:38 AM
Basically, D-tap is okay if given kind treatment, and not too many corners are cut on trying to make a 'cheap' connector 'cheaper'. The main issue is the plastic construction--it doesn't wear well, and worn or poorly implemented connectors can allow for the plug to be inserted backwards. Reversing power +/- is a good way to make expensive paperweights.

For equipment that is used frequently, d-tap connectors are cheaper to start, but at least in my experience, they don't save money in the long term. Especially for something that needs to stand up to multiple insertion cycles per day. They get worn and damaged at a higher rate, and I spend more time and money repairing d-tap than I do on spending money on more rugged connectors up front.

Jeremy Forni
12-11-2012, 05:57 PM
Jarred thanks for the Update, but as you know we need for a long time something cheap to use our old RED LCD 9" ( at the same time as our BomB EVF)

we don't want accessory from other manufacturers for our new EPIC-X

pleace just give us a timeline for the +1 module

Rob Anderson
12-12-2012, 03:17 AM
Jarred thanks for the Update, but as you know we need for a long time something cheap to use our old RED LCD 9" ( at the same time as our BomB EVF)

we don't want accessory from other manufacturers for our new EPIC-X

pleace just give us a timeline for the +1 module He did. Shipping in February 2013. 2.5 months away.

Ryland Jones
12-28-2012, 11:35 PM
I'm glad RED is releasing this. People have been asking us how to use our TVLogic to LEMO cables with their RED without a PRO I/O. Will definitely be a good accessory.

paul engstrom
01-06-2013, 09:58 PM
Hello Jarred (or anyone else that can answer this)

How much power can we anticipate the auxiliary power output providing??? For example, we regularly see an extra on-board monitor, MDR, wireless video and Cinetape on our cameras and need power supply for all of it. Will this auxiliary output provide enough power (ie. as much as we can get from a D-tap splitter plugged into a V-lock baseplate's D-tap port and powered by a RED brick) for our purposes?

Robert Berger
01-07-2013, 12:32 AM
Hello Jarred (or anyone else that can answer this)

How much power can we anticipate the auxiliary power output providing??? For example, we regularly see an extra on-board monitor, MDR, wireless video and Cinetape on our cameras and need power supply for all of it. Will this auxiliary output provide enough power (ie. as much as we can get from a D-tap splitter plugged into a V-lock baseplate's D-tap port and powered by a RED brick) for our purposes?
I like to know 2 and does the +1 use the sdi or hdmi from the Epic out to work the extra LCD?EVF?

Jarred Land
01-07-2013, 12:35 AM
I like to know 2 and does the +1 use the sdi or hdmi from the Epic out to work the extra LCD?EVF?

it uses the HMDI port.

Bob Gundu
01-07-2013, 07:12 AM
it uses the HMDI port.

Oh.... I guess we lose an HDMI port then? Oh well, there goes my wireless connection.

Louis Maddalena
01-07-2013, 07:22 AM
My current module adapter lives on my camera. Sometimes I use HDMI, sometimes I wish I could run my LCD and EVF at the same time. Will it be possible to have this module adapter live on my camera just as my current one does, and use HDMI, if I'm only using one RED port? Or does just installing this module force the HDMI to be disabled, requiring me to remove it and go back to the other module adapter when I desire to use HDMI out?

Andreas Mendritzki
01-07-2013, 07:23 AM
Oh.... I guess we lose an HDMI port then? Oh well, there goes my wireless connection.


Yeah, that's too bad. I'd still rather have this than an active HDMI. But still... Am I still crazy hoping for the monitoring options that my R1 gave me 5 years ago? LCD, EVF, HDMI, HD-SDI

Bob Gundu
01-07-2013, 07:30 AM
My current module adapter lives on my camera. Sometimes I use HDMI, sometimes I wish I could run my LCD and EVF at the same time. Will it be possible to have this module adapter live on my camera just as my current one does, and use HDMI, if I'm only using one RED port? Or does just installing this module force the HDMI to be disabled, requiring me to remove it and go back to the other module adapter when I desire to use HDMI out?

That's a good question. It would be ideal to be able to disable the Evf functionality to gain the HDMI again.

Harry Lipnick
01-07-2013, 12:51 PM
Have to agree...very surprised to hear that we lose one monitor channel to gain a second EVF port. Had been vacillating on whether to save up for a RED EVF or go third party, but I think this just makes my decision a little easier. No harm done, and actually much appreciated to make that clear now Jarred rather than waiting till the adapter ships.
Thanks,

-Harry

Bob Gundu
01-07-2013, 01:33 PM
If you're really really bummed about losing the HDMI, an option is the new Connect devices from Atomos which can convert an SDI signal to HDMI while providing a loop through for the SDI.

http://www.atomos.com/connect/

Daniel Stilling
01-07-2013, 02:33 PM
it uses the HMDI port.

Could we hope for an HDMI passthrough?

About the P tap, I agree that it is not the most elegant solution, the problem is that it's readily available, widely accepted and used throughout. i can easily make a cable myself in a pinch. I wish there was another standard, either a 4 pin Lemo, or a 2 pin Lemo, or something. But you never know what you get, and when you spend a lot of money in cables, and you sell the device that used these cables, they are useless. Not with P tap, at least for now.

Harry Lipnick
01-07-2013, 03:15 PM
If you're really really bummed about losing the HDMI, an option is the new Connect devices from Atomos which can convert an SDI signal to HDMI while providing a loop through for the SDI.

http://www.atomos.com/connect/

Thanks Bob. It's not really that I'm bummed...just right now I like the ability to have a different overlay on each output independently (clean for ProRes recorder via SDI, Preview for director's monitor over HDMI, and menus on the touch screen.) So really I'm just glad to get the information now. Like I said, not really a big deal...if I ever feel like I really need it all so to speak as far as monitoring goes, I'll pick up the Pro I/O which must have extra processing power to handle all those outputs.

Best,

-Harry

Björn Benckert
01-07-2013, 03:25 PM
Yeah, that's too bad. I'd still rather have this than an active HDMI. But still... Am I still crazy hoping for the monitoring options that my R1 gave me 5 years ago? LCD, EVF, HDMI, HD-SDI

Pro I/O?

Mestizo Devon
01-07-2013, 03:38 PM
Any news on the price????