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Jarred Land
04-17-2012, 10:32 AM
Nikon Mounts are officially off hold... time for a little Nikon love.

Electronic Nikon Mount Aluminum $800.

Electronic Nikon Mount Titanium $2200.

Ships early August.

Jeff J Daniels
04-17-2012, 10:34 AM
This is awesome.

You guys are killing it this week!

Bob Gundu
04-17-2012, 10:34 AM
Very nice... now get to the booth!

Lee Saxon
04-17-2012, 10:36 AM
I thought the Nikon mount was going to be a lot more expensive! Very good news!

Jarred Land
04-17-2012, 10:43 AM
I thought the Nikon mount was going to be a lot more expensive! Very good news!

It really should be.. with the extra motors and bits its a pretty complicated little guy.

Lee Saxon
04-17-2012, 10:53 AM
Well I appreciate your generosity :)

Demetri Zuev
04-17-2012, 10:56 AM
Titanium all the way!

Martin Weiss
04-17-2012, 10:56 AM
The good news, they keep a'coming.

Geoff McLeod
04-17-2012, 10:58 AM
Cool. I needed to hear that.

Bob Gundu
04-17-2012, 11:05 AM
Who's gonna buy my Optitek mount now??? Thanks RED... :)

Michael Millichamp
04-17-2012, 11:07 AM
Jarred! Are the Nikon mounts at the RED Booth?

Also +1 on Redmote Pro

jaadgy akanni
04-17-2012, 11:12 AM
I'll be so glad to be proven wrong by Jarred (i swore by Thor it wouldn't happen this year).
Nikon mount..woohoo!!!

Daniel Murphy
04-17-2012, 11:12 AM
Jarred

Item not under 'new releases' is it somewhere else, or am I premature?

Jarred Land
04-17-2012, 11:13 AM
Jarred

Item not under 'new releases' is it somewhere else, or am I premature?

premature.. i havn't told the web team yet :)

heh heh heh.

Todd C. Deveau
04-17-2012, 11:19 AM
Hi Jarred, might be a dumb question, but will the nikon mount control zoom/iris of G lenses?

DJ Meyer
04-17-2012, 11:22 AM
Very nice.

Bob Gundu
04-17-2012, 11:24 AM
Just focus and iris I believe


Hi Jarred, might be a dumb question, but will the nikon mount control zoom/iris of G lenses?

jaadgy akanni
04-17-2012, 11:24 AM
Jarred, How many Nikon lenses (or 3rd party) have been tested and proven to work correctly in terms of responding as expected and stuff
have you got a list so far?

Todd C. Deveau
04-17-2012, 11:28 AM
makes sense, good enough for me! thanks


Just focus and iris I believe

Ian B. Johnson
04-17-2012, 11:28 AM
Great news. When will the web team know? I want to place a deposit!

Danai Chutinaton
04-17-2012, 11:40 AM
So many new pretty RED things to buy :)

This one is going to be great!!!!

Elsie N
04-17-2012, 11:43 AM
Nikon Mount by Red... this is the best NAB ever!

Elsie N
04-17-2012, 11:44 AM
Oh, and that other stuff is nice too. '-:)

Vance Colvig
04-17-2012, 12:20 PM
Yum yum. I think Todd meant focus/iris. No zoom motors that I know of in Nikon lenses.

Todd C. Deveau
04-17-2012, 12:25 PM
ha yep, idk why i said zoom...my 70-200 II and 24-70 certainly don't have motors. meant focus/iris.


Yum yum. I think Todd ment focus/iris. No zoom motors that I know of in Nikon lenses.

Yusuf Thakur
04-17-2012, 12:36 PM
Nikon Mounts are officially off hold... time for a little Nikon love.

Electronic Nikon Mount Aluminum $800.

Electronic Nikon Mount Titanium $2200.

Ships early August.

Thank You Jarrad, I had asked that question in an earlier thread.

Love this about RED, You care and listen.

Yusuf Thakur
VFX,Dubai
www.vfxme.com (http://www.vfxme.com)

Nicholas Shields
04-17-2012, 12:44 PM
Great news! I know you're VERY busy right now, but could you tell us whether or not the mount is "lock-down" style or a more conventional f-mount? Thanks in advance.

Nick.

Jarred Land
04-17-2012, 12:51 PM
Great news! I know you're VERY busy right now, but could you tell us whether or not the mount is "lock-down" style or a more conventional f-mount? Thanks in advance.

Nick.

Lock Down is the only way to go.... :)

Andreas Mendritzki
04-17-2012, 01:08 PM
Any photos? (I know its just going to look like a mount. . . but still, we've been waiting so long for this little guy I kind of want to see it!)

Johnny Friday
04-17-2012, 01:24 PM
Jarred,
is your Nikon mount Electronic AND Manual? or only Electronic?....will we have manual Iris control if we want it...controlled by a gear? or will it be via side handle wheel electronically?

Patrick Grossien
04-17-2012, 01:26 PM
Hmm... time to think about if I should invest in Nikons ...

Alan Peterson
04-17-2012, 01:31 PM
Jarred,
is your Nikon mount Electronic AND Manual? or only Electronic?....will we have manual Iris control if we want it...controlled by a gear? or will it be via side handle wheel electronically?
Most (or all?) G and D lenses have a toggle switch for auto or manual focus, but the iris of G lenses has to be electronically controlled without the aid of an adapter a la the Optitek mount.

Edit: and the Red Nikon mount has electronic control for both iris and focus, if I'm correctly informed.

Nathaniel Haban
04-17-2012, 01:34 PM
Hmm... time to think about if I should invest in Nikons ...

Have been busy building a really nice set of Nikkor AI-S primes. Beautiful Lenses, built to last, and relatively cheap. 7 primes (cinemoded) + the Aluminum mount should run just shy of 6K.

Johnny Friday
04-17-2012, 01:34 PM
Most (or all?) G and D lenses have a toggle switch for auto or manual focus, but the iris of G lenses has to be electronically controlled without the aid of an adapter a la the Optitek mount.

Edit: and the Red Nikon mount has electronic control for both iris and focus, if I'm correctly informed.

yes, that is understood, but i think Jarred knows what i mean---something like OptiTek Mount where you have manual control over IRIS with iris ring....but then with an electronic option....this is what i had meant....and i believe Jarred talked about this option being a possibility.

Patrick Grossien
04-17-2012, 01:36 PM
Have been busy building a really nice set of Nikkor AI-S primes. Beautiful Lenses, built to last, and relatively cheap. 7 primes (cinemoded) + the Aluminum mount should run just shy of 6K.

hmpf... sounds good... guess I'll have a look at them. Always liked nikon for their glass. not for their cameras ;)

Peter Lyons Collister, ASC
04-17-2012, 01:51 PM
You know how much I have been wanting this ... Thanks Big J....

Peter

Thomas Pohl
04-17-2012, 02:28 PM
Could you specify the differences between the 2 mounts or is it "just" the material?

Cheers
Thomas.

Michael Hastings
04-17-2012, 04:53 PM
It really should be.. with the extra motors and bits its a pretty complicated little guy.


Can I order one now before the price goes up? :-)


Can I assume you have characterized the 14-24 zoom, it is probably the best wide angle we've ever seen (well maybe master 14, but I can't even afford to rent it :-) )

Rob Anderson
04-17-2012, 05:20 PM
Can I assume you have characterized the 14-24 zoom, it is probably the best wide angle we've ever seen (well maybe master 14, but I can't even afford to rent it :-) )
"Can't even afford to rent it." Quote of the year. Hilarious.

Andrew Gentle
04-17-2012, 06:12 PM
This is fantastic news, I really thought the Nikon mounts would carry more of a premium over the Canon ones. Thanks again, RED, you continue to take care of your customers!

CK Olsen
04-17-2012, 06:51 PM
WOOT!
This is the big NAB2012 RED news I was hoping for... way to deliver, Jarred!
Now... If that news could just make its way to the ears of the web team so I can place my pre-order...
;)

D Fuller
04-17-2012, 07:14 PM
Nikon Mounts are officially off hold... time for a little Nikon love.

Electronic Nikon Mount Aluminum $800.

Electronic Nikon Mount Titanium $2200.

Ships early August.

Best post of the week!

Pawel Achtel
04-17-2012, 07:57 PM
It really should be.. with the extra motors and bits its a pretty complicated little guy.

I look forward to this mount. Indeed sounds very complicated and useful at the same time :)

Jarred Land
04-17-2012, 07:59 PM
Jarred,
is your Nikon mount Electronic AND Manual? or only Electronic?....will we have manual Iris control if we want it...controlled by a gear? or will it be via side handle wheel electronically?

all electronic.. unless your lens has a manual ring on it.

Zeb B
04-17-2012, 08:10 PM
. . . when in the Store? I have some older N glass that is so lonely

Evin Grant
04-17-2012, 08:16 PM
We're in for a treat with this one, the motorised iris control was smooth as a buttered baby's behind on the proto Jarred lent us for SALT II.
Can't wait for it to show up in the store.

Johnny Friday
04-17-2012, 08:37 PM
We're in for a treat with this one, the motorised iris control was smooth as a buttered baby's behind on the proto Jarred lent us for SALT II.
Can't wait for it to show up in the store.
Now you have me interested....what is the motorized part? part of the nikon mount or is this some additional fiz control?

SUNILPREM
04-17-2012, 08:52 PM
This is the great news for me..................................I love RED..............

Carter Cammack
04-17-2012, 09:00 PM
Oh boy ohboy ohboy. No Iris click stops. Ohboy. Nikon glass. August. Oh boy. Run around the room. Jump on the sofa. Oh boy.
Now I know how the dog feels.

Evin Grant
04-17-2012, 11:53 PM
The Red Nikon mount uses an ultra smooth stepless servo of some sort to mechanically set the iris of the lens (Nikon SLRs do it this way too). Unlike EOS lenses whose iris mottor is a stepper design built into the lens. This means that completely smooth iris pulls are possible through the Epic/Scarlet UI.

If you've used a Nikon-G to EOS adapter or Optitek Nikon G iris ring then think of a stepless motor actuating that lever.

Erwin van Dijck
04-18-2012, 06:19 AM
This is excellent news!

Michael Hastings
04-18-2012, 06:42 AM
The Red Nikon mount uses an ultra smooth stepless servo of some sort to mechanically set the iris of the lens (Nikon SLRs do it this way too). Unlike EOS lenses whose iris mottor is a stepper design built into the lens. This means that completely smooth iris pulls are possible through the Epic/Scarlet UI.

If you've used a Nikon-G to EOS adapter or Optitek Nikon G iris ring then think of a stepless motor actuating that lever.

I have been wondering if Red might consider an auto iris function with the Nikon mount since it can be step less? I know the cinema purists might scoff at the idea, but some of us in other genres could find it useful.

CK Olsen
04-23-2012, 11:45 AM
Slightly off topic question: The original Red One Nikon Mount was made of Aluminum, correct?
Thanks in advance,
CK

Aaron Hucker
04-24-2012, 11:51 AM
Any news on when we will be able to pre order? Really looking forward to this!

Paul Toth
05-02-2012, 03:22 PM
I am so looking forward to this mount. Would love to place my pre-order... any word when that might be possible Jarred?

Ian B. Johnson
05-25-2012, 12:28 PM
Hey Jared,
Any updates on preordering the Nikon mount? Last I heard was the 90-day estimate which put its release at around July or August. We're itching to get in the queue over here...

Joseph S.
05-26-2012, 11:27 AM
Can't wait to pre-order this too.

Curious if there's a reason not to get the aluminum version and save some money. Never understood the difference, besides the material of course. For a 2 pound lens, is there any major difference?

Thanks
Joe

Patrick Grossien
05-26-2012, 11:48 AM
Can't wait to pre-order this too.

Curious if there's a reason not to get the aluminum version and save some money. Never understood the difference, besides the material of course. For a 2 pound lens, is there any major difference?

Thanks
Joe

Other than the Material there is no difference. Titanium is less susceptible to heat changes and more rugged (if that's the right term)
If you want the best get the titanium. It will be rock solid for even heavier lenses. If you are on a budget or don't have to rely on your mount in the weirdest weather and heat condition changes : the aluminum is superb in itself. I have the canon al and love it. It's the best canon mount there is! (except for the titanium)

danbrazda
06-05-2012, 09:45 AM
Pre-order begins when? Keep this post hot guys.

James Peach
06-05-2012, 07:49 PM
I just called to day to show my interest.
Sounds like end of the year.
I want one now tho... :-(

Johnny Friday
06-05-2012, 07:57 PM
Well if you are shooting Nikon or want to shoot Nikon now, you have two options for manual Nikon mounts that BOTH work with G type lenses or manual iris lenses:
Optitek mount - Jacek
Long Valley Equipment - Doug

Nathaniel Haban
07-15-2012, 11:50 AM
Nikon Mounts are officially off hold... time for a little Nikon love.

Electronic Nikon Mount Aluminum $800.

Electronic Nikon Mount Titanium $2200.

Ships early August.

Is early August still the ETA for the Nikon mount?

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
07-15-2012, 12:00 PM
Is early August still the ETA for the Nikon mount?

Bugger.

I saw this thread at the top of the list on Reduser and ran, not walked, to red.com...

Bugger!

Mike

Elsie N
07-15-2012, 12:21 PM
Bugger.

I saw this thread at the top of the list on Reduser and ran, not walked, to red.com...

Bugger!

Mike
Yeah, they should create those wavy lines that connote staleness for a thread after it has been up for a week or so. That way, we would know to check the posting date even as we read the thread title. I've been fooled a number of times by reading the title and forgetting to check the date posted.

Kwan Khan
07-15-2012, 12:24 PM
Bugger.

I saw this thread at the top of the list on Reduser and ran, not walked, to red.com...

Bugger!

Mike
LOL.. same here

Mike, We just need one in NYC.. just one and we can share (lol)

Andrew Huse
07-15-2012, 11:51 PM
I just did the same exact thing haha

William Dempsey
07-16-2012, 05:09 PM
Me too. Looking forward to this mount .

Wim Verbeek
07-17-2012, 12:30 PM
Me too.
Hope someone from RED can chime in to reassure the given date (early August).
I try to plan two productions in september.... need the Nikkors.
Patiently waiting is sometimes difficult..

Andrew Huse
07-24-2012, 04:26 PM
Will there be a pre order period for the Nikon mount? Or will it show up in the store when it's in stock?

Rob Anderson
07-28-2012, 02:55 AM
Count me in as one of the people waiting and hoping for an early August release. Very much looking forward to using my Nikkor glass for fast shoots.

richard peterson
07-30-2012, 08:30 PM
... truly something to get excited about. Nikon G primes are a good choice for fast, edge sharp open, light primes at a great price. Super for light weight epic rigs.

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/596-nikkorafs3514ff?start=1

http://www.photozone.de/nikon_ff/587-zeisszf3520ff?start=1

http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/516-canon35f14ff?start=1

Brian Merlen
08-03-2012, 12:08 AM
Hey guys, I know August just started but I am ordering a Scarlet and my partner only owns Nikon glass so whenever you guys are ready I am more then happy to put some money down now, would love to do a deposit. Thanks

Wim Verbeek
08-03-2012, 05:23 AM
Hey guys, I know August just started but I am ordering a Scarlet and my partner only owns Nikon glass so whenever you guys are ready I am more then happy to put some money down now, would love to do a deposit. Thanks

Hi Brian,
Seems like September 7th is the day!

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?78486-May-Product-Delivery-Update/page26

I almost missed Jarreds quote last week: "Shipping September 7th for both Titanium and Aluminum version."

Brian Merlen
08-03-2012, 05:35 PM
Sweet, thanks for the info!

Sean Rawls
08-09-2012, 01:44 PM
Woots! This will be a good early birthday present (for myself :) I don't own a Scarlet or Epic but I have a set of Nikon G primes and the 14 - 24, so having the ability to rent a body and bring my own glass and mount is appealing. Obviously still glass has mechanical limitations and is only appropriate for certain styles of shooting, but optically I've fallen in love with this glass. I also have a set of Nikkor manual primes (as I'm sure many do) so I'm really excited for this possibility as well. I love the look of old "imperfect" glass dirtying up the Epic's beautiful, crisp RAW files.

One thing I'm wondering about: with how light most still glass is, how necessary is the Ti mount? I understand it limits back focus shifting in extreme temperature variation etc but how often is back focus important when not using proper PL cine glass? I guess I mean that with still glass you'll probably be focus pulling off the monitor anyways... Thoughts?

Alan Peterson
08-09-2012, 04:23 PM
If you want to be able to put on one of Nikon's larger telephoto lenses without support, then you'll probably want to shell out for the Ti. Otherwise, I don't see much of a need for it.

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
08-09-2012, 04:43 PM
Hi Brian,
Seems like September 7th is the day!

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?78486-May-Product-Delivery-Update/page26

I almost missed Jarreds quote last week: "Shipping September 7th for both Titanium and Aluminum version."

True, but...

http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-al-nikon-mount

Mike

Andrew Huse
08-09-2012, 06:31 PM
Aww man did I miss the super secret pre order!?

Wim Verbeek
08-10-2012, 06:05 AM
Hey Mike,
Tried the link but it seems to be death!?
http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-al-nikon-mount

Cheers, Wim

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
08-10-2012, 08:26 AM
Hey Mike,
Tried the link but it seems to be death!?
http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-al-nikon-mount

Cheers, Wim

That's the whole point... shipping in a month but can't order yet!

Mike

Andrew Huse
08-10-2012, 11:44 AM
I'm checking that link everyday now until I can preorder

Brian Merlen
08-21-2012, 08:07 AM
Weight wise, what number do I need to pass to need supports on the Nikon AL mount? I wanted to weigh the glass ahead of time to know if rails are needed... and if so for which glass I have...

Jude Byard
08-22-2012, 06:18 AM
Hi Brian,
Seems like September 7th is the day!

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?78486-May-Product-Delivery-Update/page26

I almost missed Jarreds quote last week: "Shipping September 7th for both Titanium and Aluminum version."

Fantastic.

Alan Peterson
08-25-2012, 07:47 PM
Weight wise, what number do I need to pass to need supports on the Nikon AL mount? I wanted to weigh the glass ahead of time to know if rails are needed... and if so for which glass I have...
I would guess it's probably a bit more sturdy than Nikon's mounts (due to the aluminum construction vs. steel and the positive locking mechanism the Red mount will have), but we'll probably have to wait for the mount to be released before we get detailed specs and an in-depth Q&A on it.

Caden Nash
08-28-2012, 07:42 AM
Looking so forward for this. Use all my "G" lenses.

Ulf Krentz
09-05-2012, 01:39 AM
Guys, is the Nikon mount still on track? Any possibility to preorder?

Cheers

Ulf

Brent Carter
09-05-2012, 06:08 PM
http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-ti-nikon-mount

http://www.red.com/store/products/dsmc-al-nikon-mount


BC



Guys, is the Nikon mount still on track? Any possibility to preorder?

Cheers

Ulf

Stephen Mick
09-05-2012, 06:09 PM
Already ordered mine about five minutes ago. :D

Asif Limbada
09-05-2012, 06:13 PM
ordered...hehehe

Bob Gundu
09-05-2012, 06:15 PM
did the price just go up $100 while I was ordering? Very strange. It was $700, I clicked add to cart, on checkout it went to $800.

Bill Sepaniak
09-05-2012, 06:20 PM
Just ordered. Looks like I will be taking my 2 Nikon zooms to Italy next month.

____________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

Brian Merlen
09-05-2012, 07:54 PM
so now that its out for order, can i get the tech specs on the max weight allowed on the Nikon AL mount? I am just trying to figure out which glass I need rails for and which ones I can let it slide on... i mean its DSLR glass so its not like it weighs a ton but I just want to make sure I am following the tolerances at all times. thanks!!!

ps ordered as well...

Jarred Land
09-05-2012, 07:56 PM
so now that its out for order, can i get the tech specs on the max weight allowed on the Nikon AL mount? I am just trying to figure out which glass I need rails for and which ones I can let it slide on... i mean its DSLR glass so its not like it weighs a ton but I just want to make sure I am following the tolerances at all times. thanks!!!

ps ordered as well...

whatever your normal Nikon body can handle we can handle.. and then some. There is no weight spec as weight means different things if its on a short lens 5 inches away from the mount vs weight 12 inches out on the end of a long lens.

Brian Timmons
09-05-2012, 08:02 PM
While I'm not in the market for this, it is impressive that someone is actually shipping a smart Nikon mount.
Is this not a first?

Brian Timmons
BRITIM/MEDIA

Brian Merlen
09-05-2012, 08:02 PM
ah the joys of physics... well its my buddies nikon glass and I can get the measurements if that helps...but they fit on his still cameras just fine without rails so that much is encouraging... thanks for the quick response, i hit refresh and you've already answered my question, its like magic!!! thanks so much

D Fuller
09-05-2012, 08:02 PM
I'm confused by the tech specs for these mounts. Is the mount compatible with the older AF-S Nikkors? And will it allow iris control of them?

Jarred Land
09-05-2012, 08:17 PM
I'm confused by the tech specs for these mounts. Is the mount compatible with the older AF-S Nikkors? And will it allow iris control of them?

likely.. it was a pain in the ass so if nobody else has done it I can understand it.. but it sure was well worth the effort. Im not sure if we are more proud of doing this first.. or for inventing the first double lock system for still lenses.

richard peterson
09-05-2012, 08:25 PM
I just ordered the Titanium. It looks like a great choice of supported lenses out the gate... though some of the older nikkor glass is nice its the newer G primes and zooms that take it to the next level. Again Red You guys nailed it in on the supported lenses; For those that haven't shot with the newer nikons think of the supported lenses as a cheat sheet on what you need.... Finally a DMSC lens option for the epic without crossing over to the dark side. Light, fast and sharp wide open.

Bob Gundu
09-05-2012, 08:25 PM
likely.. it was a pain in the ass so if nobody else has done it I can understand it.. but it sure was well worth the effort. Im not sure if we are more proud of doing this first.. or for inventing the first double lock system for still lenses.


Looking forward to getting mine. I've had great success with using the Optitek so far which I will be keeping as a spare. The nice thing about using the Optitek was that it enables non-declicked lenses to have a smooth aperture control. I guess I can assume that the RED Nikon mount can only control electronic apertures? In which case there is still a benefit to using the Optitek?

Thanks!

D Fuller
09-05-2012, 08:27 PM
likely.. it was a pain in the ass so if nobody else has done it I can understand it.. but it sure was well worth the effort. Im not sure if we are more proud of doing this first.. or for inventing the first double lock system for still lenses.

We really appreciate that you kept working on it until it was right.

OK. So so I have this right: the list of lenses under tech specs are the only ones that will auto-focus, but iris should work with everything?

Will that list grow? I assume it will. Will it always be only the "G" lenses that auto-focus, or does auto-focus depend on them being AF-S lenses?

Bob Gundu
09-05-2012, 08:33 PM
Too bad the Nikon 105mm f/2.8G ED-IF AF-S VR Lens isn't on that list. At least the top lenses definitely are.

Kwan Khan
09-05-2012, 09:31 PM
Ordered

Jarred Land
09-05-2012, 10:12 PM
We really appreciate that you kept working on it until it was right.

OK. So so I have this right: the list of lenses under tech specs are the only ones that will auto-focus, but iris should work with everything?

Will that list grow? I assume it will.

yup.. just like the canon list was short when we started.

Jarred Land
09-05-2012, 10:14 PM
I guess I can assume that the RED Nikon mount can only control electronic apertures? In which case there is still a benefit to using the Optitek?

Thanks!

Nope. There is actually an electronic actuator in the RED mount.. a little motorized rod that mechanically moves the little lever that the other 3rd party lens mounts use a ring to move... so as long as your lens has that little iris tab, electronic or not.. it will move it.

It really is an engineering marvel this mount.

Sean Cruser
09-05-2012, 10:19 PM
this mount is about to make me very very very happy.

Bob Gundu
09-05-2012, 10:32 PM
Nope. There is actually an electronic actuator in the RED mount.. a little motorized rod that mechanically moves the little lever that the other 3rd party lens mounts use a ring to move... so as long as your lens has that little iris tab, electronic or not.. it will move it.

It really is an engineering marvel this mount.

Very cool. So is there ramping ability then?

Keith_D
09-05-2012, 10:43 PM
Jarred, Are we able to use Non-AI, AI and AIS Lenses with this mount?

Bob Gundu
09-05-2012, 10:54 PM
In theory yes...



Jarred, Are we able to use Non-AI, AI and AIS Lenses with this mount?

Danai Chutinaton
09-05-2012, 11:00 PM
Awesome!!!!

Quick question, what happens when I use a Nikon G lens that's not on the list? The specific lens I have in mind is the 10.5mm f2.8 DX fisheye lens. Would I get aperture control?

jaadgy akanni
09-05-2012, 11:10 PM
It's finally here, and I'm the happiest!
The optical quality of the f/1.8 lenses are as good as the f/1.4 ones, but they're way cheaper, so that's what I usually get
So here's a list I would love to see qualified for this mount:
AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.8 G
AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 G
AF-S Nikkor 85mm f/1.8 G
Nikkor AF-S 35mm f/1.8 G DX

Will 3rd party lenses be qualified, like the Tamron AF 60mm f/2 SP Di II LD [IF] Macro?

Jarred Land
09-05-2012, 11:15 PM
Any lens not on the list is an unknown.. just like the Canon was.. until it gets characterized, you just need to get lucky.

And yes.. we will start characterizing 3rd party Nikon lenses.. you guys should figure out which ones you want first.

Kwan Khan
09-05-2012, 11:21 PM
Is RED store Collecting Sales Tax for Out-of-State Sales (NY)?
http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/534301_10151383588838084_1724020414_n.jpg

Erwin van Dijck
09-05-2012, 11:41 PM
Nikon mount ordered!

And if I may add my vote to some Nikon lenses to get characterized next:

Nikon AF-S DX 17-55
Nikon AF-S VR 200-400
Nikon AF-S VR 105
Nikon AF-S DX 10.5 fisheye

:-)

John Marchant
09-05-2012, 11:45 PM
Excited to receive ours soon. Thanks Jarred :)

I'll report on the behaviour of my various un-listed lenses in case we get lucky.

Bob Gundu
09-05-2012, 11:50 PM
There is no mention of VR working on the Nikon mount. Just curious if Is this an oversight? My vote for characterization of next lenses would be to include:
Nikon 105mm VR micro
The original 70-200 VR I

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
09-06-2012, 02:29 AM
likely.. it was a pain in the ass so if nobody else has done it I can understand it.. but it sure was well worth the effort. Im not sure if we are more proud of doing this first.. or for inventing the first double lock system for still lenses.

I think Canon breech lock had you beat there :-)

Very pleased to see this. Needless to say, ordered! Is this shipping immediately for orders today? Deliveries next week?

Thanks big man!

Mike

Jarred Land
09-06-2012, 02:42 AM
I think Canon breech lock had you beat there :-)

Very pleased to see this. Needless to say, ordered! Is this shipping immediately for orders today? Deliveries next week?

Thanks big man!

Mike

The Breech Lock wasn't on the camera side.. it was on the lens. We have double lock on the actual camera mount. :)

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
09-06-2012, 02:44 AM
The Breech Lock wasn't on the camera side.. it was on the lens. We have double lock on the actual camera mount. :)

Fair comment, you got me!

Mike

Thomas Di Nardo
09-06-2012, 07:23 AM
Any lens not on the list is an unknown.. just like the Canon was.. until it gets characterized, you just need to get lucky.

And yes.. we will start characterizing 3rd party Nikon lenses.. you guys should figure out which ones you want first.

Ordered two Ti mounts.

Here's my Nikkor wish list:

14 2.8
16 2.8 fisheye
200 2.0 VRII
300 2.8 VRII
400 2.8 VRII
500 4.0 VRII
600 4.0 VRII
200-400 4.0 VRII
24 PC-E
45 PC-E
85 PC-E

Thanks. Tom

Lee Saxon
09-06-2012, 08:34 AM
Jarred, Are we able to use Non-AI, AI and AIS Lenses with this mount?


In theory yes...

I bet non-AI won't be compatible, but all AI and newer F mounts are identical and should mount.

Kennan Ward
09-06-2012, 10:13 AM
Maybe this is a dumb question?
I have an Epic X, it is aluminum, right, What is the difference TI or AL mount for my camera?

I know some of the Epics were TI , "M' so it makes sense TI to TI but is AL to AL the right choice?

Not being able to see the mount, does any one know if the actual bayonet mount is TI? Or Nikon original part?


Thank you!

Kennan & Karen

Jarred Land
09-06-2012, 05:11 PM
Is RED store Collecting Sales Tax for Out-of-State Sales (NY)?


heh heh heh.. We are there... You just don't know it ( yet )

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
09-06-2012, 06:01 PM
heh heh heh.. We are there... You just don't know it ( yet )

Red Store New York? Red Studio East? I remember you posting about an NY trip recently... :-)

Sounds like you're doing something cool... A month before I leave New York! Grrrr.

Mike

Michael Mayda
09-06-2012, 07:20 PM
Ordered TI. Add my vote for 300 2.8 and 600 4 VRII lenses...

Kwan Khan
09-07-2012, 04:21 AM
heh heh heh.. We are there... You just don't know it ( yet )
Yeah.. I never knew... Whitney just gave me this energatic morning news (earlier).

Evin Grant
09-07-2012, 02:04 PM
Ordered.

Bill Sepaniak
09-07-2012, 10:21 PM
Very cool. Just got a shipping confirmation from FedEx. My Nikon mount is due to arrive on Monday, the 10th. Here they come!

____________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

soren k jensen
09-09-2012, 03:49 AM
Please add the 17-35 :-)

Bob Gundu
09-09-2012, 06:17 AM
Just an interesting observation that no one is requesting any 3rd party lenses to the list. Actually I would add the Tokina 11-16.

Tim Morten
09-09-2012, 07:37 AM
Please add the 17-35 :-)

+1...

Russ Campbell
09-09-2012, 08:33 AM
Please add the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 and the Sigma 300-800 f5.6 to the list.

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
09-09-2012, 09:30 AM
Just an interesting observation that no one is requesting any 3rd party lenses to the list. Actually I would add the Tokina 11-16.

+1 for sure; as soon as the Nikon mount works with it, I'll have an EOS mount 11-16 for sale: one careful owner... and one suicidally reckless one!

Mike

Paul Ellington
09-09-2012, 09:45 AM
likely.. it was a pain in the ass so if nobody else has done it I can understand it.. but it sure was well worth the effort. Im not sure if we are more proud of doing this first.. or for inventing the first double lock system for still lenses.


The double lock is just brilliant Sir.

Stephen Mick
09-09-2012, 09:46 AM
I'll have mine tomorrow, and should be using it on a job Tuesday. I'll report back on Wednesday.

Sean Solowiej
09-09-2012, 05:09 PM
Just an interesting observation that no one is requesting any 3rd party lenses to the list. Actually I would add the Tokina 11-16.

+1 more

Andrew Huse
09-09-2012, 05:12 PM
I'll have mine tomorrow, and should be using it on a job Tuesday. I'll report back on Wednesday.

How do you know you get yours toomorow? Did they ship yours already?

Stephen Mick
09-09-2012, 05:15 PM
How do you know you get yours toomorow? Did they ship yours already?

Shipped out Friday via FedEx Next Day. It's sitting at the FedEx warehouse right now, and out for delivery tomorrow. :D

Brian Iannone
09-09-2012, 06:46 PM
The optical quality of the f/1.8 lenses are as good as the f/1.4 ones, but they're way cheaper, so that's what I usually get
So here's a list I would love to see qualified for this mount:
AF-S Nikkor 35mm f/1.8 G
AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 G
AF-S Nikkor 85mm f/1.8 G

+1

Also, a request for support with the Nikon 105mm f/2.8G VR. :)

HD Hildebrand
09-09-2012, 08:08 PM
tokina 11-16mm, nikon 17-55mm, nikon 80-200mm

Is there any way to manually manipulate the iris on G lenses like the 11-16mm and 17-55mm at this time, seeing they are not on the list? Guess there is no way the mount can also function like the Optitek so you have manual control?

Thomas Pohl
09-10-2012, 01:34 AM
Would be great to read more of your practical experiences concerning the differences between the A and Ti Version. As far as I read the Ti Mount seens to be a bit of overkill for Still Lenses. Do you agree?
Cheers
Thomas.

Olivier Madar
09-10-2012, 04:30 AM
2 200 VRII please ;-)
I love this lens...

Ulf Krentz
09-10-2012, 08:49 AM
Dear Red Team,

Ordered, but couldnīt find detailed information. Will the mount support manual lenses (Ai/Ais) in addition to just the physical fit, does it read the Ai information via the Ai coupling ridge, at least for meta data? Will it be able to control aperture via the Ai-s now or maybe after a new firmware release? Any insights appreciated.

Cheers

Ulf

Kennan Ward
09-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Any lens not on the list is an unknown.. just like the Canon was.. until it gets characterized, you just need to get lucky.

And yes.. we will start characterizing 3rd party Nikon lenses.. you guys should figure out which ones you want first.

Thanks Jarred,


This is grrrreat! Thanks to the Red Team! You have made our field work so much better!

Just one persons dreams: At least for Nature Landscape and Wildlife photographer!

Most of us in the field can not predetermine distance to subject as in a studio, so primes are not as often chosen over zooms. Even though zooms tend to be less sharp with more glass!

That said, I still love the Nikon 60mm Micro Nikkor as the sharpest lens I own. Thank you for having this lens on the list already!

These days with crowds at the best places, getting the right space is a gamble! And don't ever think about getting close to an animal in public with out the Hubble telescope! Hee Haa!

The lens that is always ready on our Epic is the Nikon 17-35 f2.8. Or the Nikon 12-24 f4 (not yet on the list). If I am running to film something ...maybe the Nikon 18-200, for stealth and focal length options.

Adding more wide zooms above and the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 would be nice.

Standard, Nikon 70-200 f2.8 VR, is the first lens for any wildlife, (on the list already).

Nikon's best wildlife overall lens is the Nikon 200-400 f4 VR and of course the 300-800 Sigma is now a standard!

I also like the Nikon 400 f2.8 and the 600 f4 if I am in a known location but find less and less using these lenses as clients want close up and then even closer until only the eye is in the frame!
Then medium and wide clips!

Thank you for the Red Nikon mount and thank you for any of the updates to Nikon lenses. In the meantime, I hope to learn how to use the Red Nikon mount and use some of the lenses as we always have ...Manually!


Best,

Kennan & Karen Ward

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
09-10-2012, 12:49 PM
It's here! Nice to be first(ish) for something!

http://reduser.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29208&d=1347302829

Now we're cooking on gas! Thanks for getting this out the door Jarred.

It works!

Zero functionality with uncharacterised lenses as expected - no AF, no iris control, nada.

Mike

Ulf Krentz
09-10-2012, 12:52 PM
Mike,

Congrats, still waiting for mine. Thanks for sharing information. Just curious, does it read the Ai information via the Ai coupling ridge? Any iris meta data?

Cheers, Ulf

Bill Sepaniak
09-10-2012, 06:42 PM
Got it. Just put a 24-70G zoom on the camera. Seems to focus slightly slower than my Canon mount-w- 11-16 Tokina. (Chalk it up to different lenses??) Other than that, works as advertised! Oh, I got an 82 mm Heliopan Vario ND-w-front screw in from Germany. So far, no vignetting (even with a Heliopan rubber lens hood) or weird color shifts-w-the 24-70. I'll have to test some more, but so far so good.

____________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

Stephen Mick
09-10-2012, 09:32 PM
Got mine earlier. Popped the Nikon 16-35 f4 VR lens on the Epic, and both the iris and VR seem to work perfectly. I haven't bothered trying auto-focus yet, but I'll try that tomorrow.

Peter Savage
09-11-2012, 09:12 AM
can I add a +1 for the Tokina 11- 16 and the Nikon 105 to be added to the list soon.. please
It's great that the mount is available at last, thanks everyone involved. I'm looking forward to meeting up with mine very soon

Bob Gundu
09-11-2012, 09:23 AM
I'll be getting mine tomorrow. We should start a database of what works.

Bill Martz
09-11-2012, 09:49 AM
Received my Nikon Ti mount yeasterday. The mount itself is well designed. I only tried my Nikon 70-200 V11 so far. The focus works about as good as the Canon mount. However, when changing the aperature using the side handle rocker switch it is very slow. To change the aperature I must push the rocker switch just once about every 10 seconds to change the aperature. If I hold down the rocker switch, the aperature of the lens cycles from open to close staying within the same F stop. I think there needs to be new firmware to correct this behavior.

Andrew Huse
09-11-2012, 11:12 PM
I don't care about zooms. Has anyone tested the G primes yet?

Kennan Ward
09-12-2012, 04:39 PM
Tested the New Red Nikon TI mount. Looks great, and function fits well.

None of my Nikon lenses auto focused, a couple had very slow responce in toggle iris control on side handle. Menu set iris was responsive on some Nikon lenses.

I took the Red TI Nikon mount off and put it back in the box and replaced it with the OptiTek Nikon ProLock.

I will have to wait till more Nikon lenses "..gets characterized..."

Kennan

Michael Mayda
09-12-2012, 06:33 PM
Got my Nik TI this afternoon. So far, I am very pleased. Works great with 70-200 and 14-24. Even got it to "sort of" work with 600 f/4. Even the VR works! Hope to do some better testing tomorrow afternoon. Thank you Red!

Evin Grant
09-12-2012, 06:50 PM
I'm a happy camper...
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/Epic_1424.jpg

Evin Grant
09-12-2012, 06:52 PM
I don't care about zooms. Has anyone tested the G primes yet?

Yes, back in Febuary with the prototype Red Nikon mount...
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?73380-SALT-II-results-(Part-1-2-3-4-Bokeh-Breathing-amp-Flare-and-Part-5-Impressions)

And I've been shooting with them on my D800e for a few months now too...
http://evingrant.com/pics/Vouge_Portfolio/16_Jullieta_dead_fish.jpg
http://evingrant.com/pics/Vouge_Portfolio/6_Mureen_TV.jpg
http://evingrant.com/pics/Vouge_Portfolio/15_Sarah_Salander.jpg
You will NOT be disappointed!

Bill Sepaniak
09-12-2012, 07:07 PM
I just slapped my 14-24G on. I am NOT disappointed at all! Been waiting for this for a while. Now, I have to get one of those fotodiox lens hood adapters.

____________________________________
Scarlet X # 1859 “Bettie Page”
“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

Kwan Khan
09-12-2012, 07:29 PM
Yes, back in Febuary with the prototype Red Nikon mount...
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?73380-SALT-II-results-(Part-1-2-3-4-Bokeh-Breathing-amp-Flare-and-Part-5-Impressions)

Evin,
You really need to test Rokinon set as well.

Mike 'Fireman' Ross
09-12-2012, 08:56 PM
Evin,
You really need to test Rokinon set as well.

The Rokinon set are fully manual, what is there to test? They will Just Work with the Red Nikon mount surely?

And congrats Evin... it's interesting how everyone seems to reach for the 14-24 first :-)

Mike

Kwan Khan
09-12-2012, 10:25 PM
@ Evin,
If you can't get it locally, I am willing to send my set (asa 24mm cine available)


The Rokinon set are fully manual, what is there to test? They will Just Work with the Red Nikon mount surely?

Click on his link (lol),

I meant, Bokeh, Breathing & Flare test of Rokinon (and compare) .... not a RED NIKON Mount (lol)

Thomas Pohl
09-13-2012, 12:28 AM
I'm a happy camper...
http://www.evingrant.com/pics/Epic_1424.jpg
Hi Evin,

looks like the Al Version. Did you already tested it with larger lenses? Do you think a lense support is necessary? Probably you could say something about the differences/advantages concerning the stability in comparison to the R1 Nikon Mount (the new one looks much more solid).
Thanks in advance.

Thomas.

Evin Grant
09-13-2012, 01:40 AM
Yes, aluminum, the Nikon mount was never designed to support the weight that PL was. That said the new Epic Nikon locking mechanisim is the strongest and most solid Nikon mount I've ever encountered. I had my 70-200 VRII on earlier and it felt perfectly fine without support. My 300mm 2.8 VRII will probably need some support, though the lens will probably support the Epic body in a DSLR configuration.

Kwan, if you want to send me the Rokinons I'll test them against the Gs.

Kwan Khan
09-13-2012, 05:42 AM
Kwan, if you want to send me the Rokinons I'll test them against the Gs.

Great, Thank Evin
I will send you 24mm, 35mm and 85mm (as soon as 24mm available at B an H)

Jeff Kilgroe
09-13-2012, 12:21 PM
Nikon Al mount here too... As cool as the Ti mount is, my cameras will still spend 99% of the time with PL glass on them. Just had to have the Nikon mount so I can have the option of using all my Nikon glass. Hope that 105mm G macro gets profiled soon. Should have my mount in a few days, but probably won't get to play for a bit after -- starting a shoot monday and won't have time to swap mounts during that time.

If the Nikon mount were going to be my primary mount on the camera or if I were going to be renting out a camera with Nikon mount, I would get the Ti version, no question about it.

Nathaniel Haban
09-13-2012, 01:40 PM
Dear Red Team,

Ordered, but couldnīt find detailed information. Will the mount support manual lenses (Ai/Ais) in addition to just the physical fit, does it read the Ai information via the Ai coupling ridge, at least for meta data? Will it be able to control aperture via the Ai-s now or maybe after a new firmware release? Any insights appreciated.

Cheers

Ulf

The answer to this is yes-and-no. The F-mount of the AI-S lenses will fit without problem. The problem is this - the part of the lense mount circled in red. On some lenses, the length of this is not an issue, and some of my AI-S lenses mount beautifully, but on others, like the 50mm 1.2 AI-S pictured here, this tab is just barely too long and will make it very difficult to mount the lens and will rub on the inside of the RED mount.

I'll be contacting both Duclose and RPlens about this, since they will modify AI-S lenses, so I can get their opinions. Hopefully, it'll be an issue of simply maching off or filing down that tab.

Ricardo Moreno
09-13-2012, 01:56 PM
Here is my Wish list.
PRIMES
AF-DC Nikkor 135mm 2
AF Nikkor 85mm 1.4
50mm f/1.8D AF
24mm f/1.4 AF-S G


ZOOMS
AF-S Nikkor 2.8D 17-35mm This is the sharpest wideangle lens
AF-S Nikkor 2.8D 28-70mm
AF Nikkor 80-200mm 2.8

Evin Grant
09-13-2012, 02:43 PM
The 1.4G series primes are already profiled.

Evin Grant
09-13-2012, 03:02 PM
Did a quick mounting test with my AI & AIS lenses...

Mounted and functioned great...
28mm F2 AIS
35mm F2 AI
40mm F2 Voightlander
50mm f1.4 AIS
85mm f2 AI
105mm f2.8 Macro AIS
135mm f2.8 AI
180mm f2.8 ED AIS
PN-11 extention tube

Would not mount, modification needed...
20mm f2.8 AIS
50mm f2 AI

Evin Grant
09-13-2012, 04:55 PM
Took me about a 1/2 hour to grind down the extended tabs and they fit the mount fine.

Lee Saxon
09-13-2012, 05:18 PM
I haven't seen a 50 f/2 AI or 20 f/2.8 AI-s, is this "extended tab" that needs to be ground down the same as the one on the 50 f/1.2 AIs?

Phil Bates
09-13-2012, 05:27 PM
After reading this thread, it's unclear to me if the iris will work on the Tokina 11-16 pre-profile. Anyone tried it?

Thanks,
Phil

Evin Grant
09-13-2012, 06:03 PM
Iris should work, probably not focus, but you might get lucky

Evin Grant
09-13-2012, 06:05 PM
I haven't seen a 50 f/2 AI or 20 f/2.8 AI-s, is this "extended tab" that needs to be ground down the same as the one on the 50 f/1.2 AIs?

Not exactly, but close. Pretty much anything that sticks out past that metal flange height on the left needs to come off. I'll post pics in a bit.

Ulf Krentz
09-14-2012, 09:19 AM
Extended AI / AIS wonīt mount list:
20 2.8
24 2.0
35 1.4
50 1.2
55 1.2

Pretty much the whole line I bought the mount for!
RED Support, any chance we get a working mount?

Cheers

Ulf

Edit: 24/2.0

Jeff Kilgroe
09-14-2012, 11:23 AM
Extended AI / AIS wonīt mount list:
20 2.8
24 2.8
35 1.4
50 1.2
55 1.2

Pretty much the whole line I bought the mount for!
RED Support, any chance we get a working mount?

Cheers

Ulf

Ummm.... I own every lens on that list except for the 55 and I also have the 85 AIS. When you say they won't mount, do you mean you can't physically mount them on the camera? If it's just the issue with the tab protrusion, I think I've already modded mine to fit other cameras anyway, so not a big deal for me now.

Ulf Krentz
09-14-2012, 12:27 PM
Jeff,

Yes it is not possible to mount these lenses because of that pin. I recently collected all these lenses in good condition for use with the Nikon mount and now I have to modify them?
The 85/1.4 is OK, so is the 105/1.8 and 180/2.8 also a 28/2.8 does mount well.

Cheers

Ulf

Lee Saxon
09-14-2012, 12:28 PM
I'm not willing to take a grinder to my beautiful lenses because Red made their mount wrong -.-

Evin Grant
09-14-2012, 12:35 PM
Those tabs were intended for use with the original AI system on the FE and and no current Nikon body film or digital uses them. It's a very straight forward modification that can be done with a dremel and a file. If you absolutely can't bring your self to remove three screws and do it yourself then call Duclos or an authorized Nikon service center. As far as Red modifying the mount, I think it's damn impressive they've been able to cram as much functionality as they have in there. If you are only interested in MF lenses anyway then the Optitek or other dumb (non electronic) mount will probably suit you better.



I'm not willing to take a grinder to my beautiful lenses because Red made their mount wrong -.-

Red didn't make it wrong, they just designed it around the current crop of high performance AF lenses, Nikon has made literally hundreds if not thousands of variations of their lenses over the last 5 decades, it's not realistic to expect Red to test and measure every single one for fit, and of course you do have other options if you need them (see above).

Jacek Zakowicz
09-14-2012, 12:38 PM
ProLock works with all Nikon lenses- manual and G- series, with no modifications to lenses needed...:wink5:

Ulf Krentz
09-14-2012, 12:51 PM
snip /Those tabs were intended for use with the original AI system on the FE and and no current Nikon body film or digital uses them. snip


Evin,

AFAIK these pins are protection pins for the rear lens elements and provide information of maximum opening. AI aperture setting transmission is performed via the coupling ridge on the aperture dial. AIS means the little pin that moves the iris is calibrated to get an iris control by the camera. It was introduced with the FA. It would have been easy to leave the space within the mount. These lenses fit on any recent nikon body. Iīm sorry but I am with Lee, we could have expected this from RED. Additionally and that was why I was waiting for the RED TI Nikon Mount I expected the readout of the AI information and transformation into the camera for meta data. Please donīt misunderstand me but in this case I might have been better (and earlier) served with the prolock.

Cheers

Ulf

Lee Saxon
09-14-2012, 01:09 PM
Red didn't make it wrong, they just designed it around the current crop of high performance AF lenses, Nikon has made literally hundreds if not thousands of variations of their lenses over the last 5 decades, it's not realistic to expect Red to test and measure every single one for fit, and of course you do have other options if you need them (see above).

That's certainly a reasonable point. But I believe it would be more applicable if I was asking for pre-AI compatibility, or to actually meter/aperture couple with these AI indexing pins, or compatibility with the early fisheyes that protruded so far behind the mount they required mirror lock-up, or something else that (AFAIK) even Nikon no longer offers without modification.

Asking that any lens which fits a current Nikon-made F-mount -- especially a very common, still in production one like the 50 1.2 -- fit a Red-made F-mount seems fairly reasonable.

Douglas Underdahl
09-14-2012, 01:59 PM
Well, I think that filing/grinding off some pins on the back of your lenses is no big deal, but then again, I can see one's objection to this procedure. Personally I modify most of my equipment anyway; this practice has a long tradition in motion picture photography (no two older movie cameras are alike!).

May I suggest our PosiLock mount for Epic and Scarlet if you don't want to modify:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?80177-PosiLock-Nikon-mount-for-Epic-and-Scarlet&highlight=underdahl

Nathaniel Haban
09-14-2012, 02:42 PM
Extended AI / AIS wonīt mount list:
20 2.8
24 2.8
35 1.4
50 1.2
55 1.2

Pretty much the whole line I bought the mount for!
RED Support, any chance we get a working mount?

Cheers

Ulf

Also add the 24mm f2 ai-s to this list.

I see both Evin and Lee's points on this. Since the clearance issues seem to be incredibly small, maybe someday soon we'll see RED release a v2 Nikon mount that accounts for them. But I'm certainly not going to begrudge RED for what's a minor issue. 20 minutes time, and both my 24mm and 50mm have had the tab filed down and fit wonderfully. The length of a tab doesn't add beauty to the lens, nor does it affect the quality... so it's gone.

Jacek Zakowicz
09-14-2012, 02:46 PM
We could also point a little blame at Nikon for not having universal compatability with thier own lenses and mounts.

???!!!:confused:

Ulf Krentz
09-14-2012, 02:51 PM
Also add the 24mm f2 ai-s to this list.

I see both Evin and Lee's points on this. Since the clearance issues seem to be incredibly small, maybe someday soon we'll see RED release a v2 Nikon mount that accounts for them. But I'm certainly not going to begrudge RED for what's a minor issue. 20 minutes time, and both my 24mm and 50mm have had the tab filed down and fit wonderfully. The length of a tab doesn't add beauty to the lens, nor does it affect the quality... so it's gone.

We could also point a little blame at Nikon for not having universal compatability with thier own lenses and mounts.

Nathaniel,

thank you for your correction, it is the 24/2 here, too. The 24/2.8 might fit. Regarding the pin, Iīll probably will have to go this route, too. But I have to grind at least five lenses, it simply is annoying. These lenses fit on any recent Nikon body, why not on the RED mount?

Cheers

Ulf

Nathaniel Haban
09-14-2012, 02:54 PM
???!!!:confused:

Mis-spoke, sorry

M.D. Biemann
09-14-2012, 10:02 PM
ABout the rocker on the side handle to change aperture working slow or not... Mine does that too.. strangely enough its working fast and precise once you use the menu exposure route. With the side handle you can basically scroll through them like on a SLR.

Oh.. before I forget. Placed my wife's AF-S 18-200/3.5-5.6 G ED DX-lens and it works like a charm :-)

Evin Grant
09-14-2012, 11:24 PM
There is a lot of technology crammed into that mount, including an extremely smooth stepper motor. Could Red have engineeded the mount to accept these legacy lenses, probably, would we have to have given up some functionality, or paid more $? probably.
I few minuites with a dremel and file are a very small trade off.

Nathan L Collett
09-15-2012, 12:37 AM
I don't care about zooms. Has anyone tested the G primes yet?

+1 on that. trying to figure out if 1.8 Gs will work... while wadding through this long thread... good stuff though. cheers

Ulf Krentz
09-15-2012, 07:39 AM
I tried various qualified Nikon "G" lenses now. While everything seemed to work properly at first sight (a bit slow though) I experience wrong aperture settings, for example with the 85 1.4 the aperture is completely closed (22) when set to 11. Same with other approved glass. I put the lenses on a switched off camera, turned the camera on, the lowest and highest aperture values are regognized by the camera, and yes Iīm running the latest beta build which supports the Nikon mount. Is this just me, or anybody else with that behavior?

Bill Sepaniak
09-15-2012, 08:30 AM
I only have a 14-24G and a 24-70G and the aperture settings seem to work fine on those lenses so far.

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“… preparing to ‘whip’ the competition …”

Zeiss Lenses:

CY 21/2.8
ZF 28/2.0
CY 35-70/3.4
CY 50/1.4
ZF100/2.0

Nikon Lenses:
G 14-24/2.8
G 24-70/2.8
D 80-200/2.8

Tokina Lenses:

11-16/2.8

Ulf Krentz
09-15-2012, 08:56 AM
Thank you Bill, I also tried this lens and had the same failure, no variation of the iris above a certain setting (not sure which number on this lens), it seems my mount is closing the iris too early. Everybody elseīs working fine?

Brian Merlen
09-18-2012, 11:17 AM
I am using my buddies glass, not sure how thrilled he will be if it doesn't fit... Will report back on results, mount should be here in 43 minutes according to delivery guy...

Stefan Scherperel
11-08-2012, 08:16 AM
Just got my Nikon mount, and my epic for that matter and have been very pleased so far. I have one lens that i'm trying to figure out however. I have an AF Nikkor 20-35 2.8. It has a Manual Iris gear but can be controlled through camera. When I put the lens on the nikon mount, the iris reacts with a buzz, and the focal length is even recognized. I can manually focus and focus distance and focal length show in camera, however for the life of my I can't change the aperature. Moving the ring does nothing and exposure box is grayed out. This is the only AF lens that I have been able to test, all of my older AIS lenses work great. I'm new to the whole system so I'm thinking there may be something I'm missing.

Jonas Klittmark
05-27-2013, 04:37 AM
Iris should work, probably not focus, but you might get lucky

Still not clear to me whether iris control works on the Tokina 11-16 with Nikon mount. Can anyone confirm? It's not officially supported yet, which is surprising.

Peter Savage
05-27-2013, 04:47 AM
I have an older Tokina 11- 16 (2 - 3 years old) which does not work. It works when you mount it but does not give accurate nor useable control as soon as you change anything on the lens. I could not even get it to work properly in manual focusing. The iris seems to get locked into the wrong range. I'm suspect this is a software issue so hopefully it will get sorted at some point. It is a little disappointing that there are plenty of Canon lenses supported but so few Nikon. I specifically purchased the Nikon mount on the expectation that there would be good support for Nikon lenses. I'm sure it will come at some point - at least I hope so... though I'm beginning to think it would have been better to invest in new Canon lenses and mount but it's too late late now. It would be good to get some word from RED about what we can expect in terms of the range of support for Nikon lenses on the Epic... Anyone?

Sean Solowiej
05-28-2013, 10:24 AM
+1...


It would be good to get some word from RED about what we can expect in terms of the range of support for Nikon lenses on the Epic... Anyone?

Jonas Klittmark
05-28-2013, 12:45 PM
Ok guys, just ran across this:
http://longvalleyequip.com/lensmount.php

A Nikon mount that has manual iris control for $295. Anyone tried it? Is it officially supported by RED or would using it void warranties etc?

Kyle Wright
05-28-2013, 01:09 PM
Ok guys, just ran across this:
http://longvalleyequip.com/lensmount.php

A Nikon mount that has manual iris control for $295. Anyone tried it? Is it officially supported by RED or would using it void warranties etc?

From the linked website:

This product is not associated with Red. Red has made no statement concerning this mount.

David Kuhn
05-28-2013, 01:40 PM
Ok guys, just ran across this:
http://longvalleyequip.com/lensmount.php

A Nikon mount that has manual iris control for $295. Anyone tried it? Is it officially supported by RED or would using it void warranties etc?

Jonas I've not used that particular mount but I have used Nikon mounts for machine vision cameras that utilized similar stamped stainless retaining rings with a 'leaf spring like' locking button (looks like what this mount is using)... I was not happy with their performance or reliability. They didn't hold the lens securely... well... they held securely enough that the lens wouldn't pop out, but there always seemed to be some give to the mount. On the reliability side... the locking spring would relax over time and eventually stop locking the lens in place.

This particular mount may not have these issues... but I'd suggest getting feedback from a user before buying.

Douglas Underdahl
05-28-2013, 01:45 PM
I make the Long Valley Nikon Mount for Epic and Scarlet.

It uses the same water jet cut 303 stainless locking ring that is in the Red One Nikon mount, which I also make.

It is not a spring. There are no springs in this mount.

It has a manual iris activator for smooth iris pulls during takes, with a 32/0.8 gear attached.

Jonas Klittmark
05-28-2013, 01:47 PM
I was not happy with their performance or reliability. They didn't hold the lens securely...

Good to know, thanks. I guess I'll have to use the Canon version of the Tokina and keep switching mounts on the camera :-(

It would be really nice if the most popular lenses were supported on the Nikon mount. The Tokina 11-16 has to be considered part of that group.

Douglas Underdahl
05-28-2013, 02:51 PM
Jonas - why would you take David's opinion of my mount when he has never used it, and says so in his post? His info is not "good to know".

My mount - from my company Long Valley Equipment, which is an OEM to Red Cine - is very robust and not like any other Nikon mount. It is my own design.

Jonas Klittmark
05-28-2013, 04:03 PM
Jonas - why would you take David's opinion of my mount when he has never used it, and says so in his post?

The only thing he said was that he saw similarities between this design and a product he had used that he was not happy with. Since he has no affiliation either way, I have no reason to doubt him. You obviously have different opinion. I'm waiting for folks that have used the actual product to chime in.

Peter Moretti
05-28-2013, 04:36 PM
Jonas,

David is attributing design attributes to the Long Valley mount that it simply doesn't have. It's not stamped aluminum and it doesn't use a leaf spring. So the two things that he felt were causes for concern simply aren't there.

Jonas Klittmark
05-28-2013, 04:39 PM
Jonas,

David is attributing design attributes to the Long Valley mount that it simply doesn't have. It's not stamped aluminum and it doesn't use a leaf spring. So the two things that he felt were causes for concern simply aren't there.

Fair enough. I'm keeping an open mind until we start hearing from actual users.

David Kuhn
05-28-2013, 05:32 PM
Jonas - why would you take David's opinion of my mount when he has never used it, and says so in his post? His info is not "good to know".

My mount - from my company Long Valley Equipment, which is an OEM to Red Cine - is very robust and not like any other Nikon mount. It is my own design.

I definitely agree don't take my opinion, other than the advice to get feedback from existing users who are more familiar with the design. It's difficult to tell a lot of the details in a single video, better to hear it from experienced users. The RED mount (which is excellent) and the manual design are substantially different, the Red unit has the traditional Nikon twist and locking pin in addition to the rotation locking the lens bayonets in place. The only task of the friction ring locking the bayonets is to keep heavy lenses rigidly in position (a flaw in the normal Nikon lens mounts that use springs on the back surface of the camera bayonets). Unless there's a motion that you can't see in the video, the manual mount only has a friction lock lever, which raises at least one question - is it possible that I could hit it with my hand when moving the camera and release the lens? Even with a normal Nikon mount, two things have to go wrong for you to drop a lens, with the Red design three things have to go wrong. Is there a lock on the mount with a release somewhere we couldn't see that you'd need to press to enable ring rotation?

As I said... could be a good solid design... just hard to tell from the video.

Douglas Underdahl
05-28-2013, 05:55 PM
My mount has a locking lever. It works just like an Arri PL mount, or a Panavision mount, neither of which has a separate lock. It operates like those mounts in that it the locking action is a cam, not a spring.

It works just like the locking lever on the Red One Nikon mount which I designed and manufactured and which Red sells in their store. In fact, it is identical.

How many users have "hit" the lock lever on a PL or PV mount and dropped a lens?

I would never comment on any piece of equipment that I hadn't actually used, and used extensively.

rod bradley
05-28-2013, 06:01 PM
I have used Douglas's Nikon mount extensively and it is solid, bullet proof. There is no need to fear whatsoever.

Sean Solowiej
05-29-2013, 11:13 AM
Can we make some minor noise about Red releasing more support for Nikon-mount lenses on Epic? Waiting for the camera was understandable, and waiting for their great Nikon mount was a little more painful. Now getting it to work as intended seems to be a lower priority. Please, support more F-mount lenses! This mount system/concept with auto-focus is amazing, let's see what it can really do.

Jonas Klittmark
05-29-2013, 11:36 AM
I have used Douglas's Nikon mount extensively and it is solid, bullet proof. There is no need to fear whatsoever.

Very glad to hear. I might give it a chance then!

Johnny Friday
05-29-2013, 12:14 PM
Can we make some minor noise about Red releasing more support for Nikon-mount lenses on Epic? Waiting for the camera was understandable, and waiting for their great Nikon mount was a little more painful. Now getting it to work as intended seems to be a lower priority. Please, support more F-mount lenses! This mount system/concept with auto-focus is amazing, let's see what it can really do.

+++: I bought Red's Nikon mount specifically for using electronic feedback of focus....yet NONE of my commonly used Nikon lenses work to date.....Yet the Canons seem to have all the love. I've been asking my Rep now for months...but no luck so far in my lenses working at all. Thank god for Jacek's and Doug's manual mounts---of which i own both.

How can i put this, time has finally come to get the Nikon mount working with a wide variety of lenses. I hate having this mount sit around and utterly useless. It has so much promise, but time is ticking....
Please RED.

*Sigma 15mm fisheye FF
*Tokina 10-17 Fisheye
*Nikon 16-85

Peter Savage
05-29-2013, 03:11 PM
QUOTE=Johnny Friday;1210634]+++: I bought Red's Nikon mount specifically for using electronic feedback of focus....yet NONE of my commonly used Nikon lenses work to date.....Yet the Canons seem to have all the love. I've been asking my Rep now for months...but no luck so far in my lenses working at all. Thank god for Jacek's and Doug's manual mounts---of which i own both.

How can i put this, time has finally come to get the Nikon mount working with a wide variety of lenses. I hate having this mount sit around and utterly useless. It has so much promise, but time is ticking....
Please RED.[/QUOTE]
+++1 to this . I really hope someone at Red is looking at this and planning to get a lot more Nikon lenses working on the Epic.

I should add that I used Doug's Red One Nikon mount (an early version I think) and it worked perfectly every time.

Alan Peterson
07-11-2013, 11:09 AM
Any word on adding support for more lenses? I'd love to see some Sigma and Tamron zooms supported.

Also, is there anything end users can do to help RED build support for specific lenses?

Peter Savage
07-11-2013, 01:05 PM
+1
It really would be good to get some sort of response from Red about lens support for the nikon mount. If there are difficulties in getting lenses to work with this mount please just say so. I know a lot of work went into getting the mount to work in the first place so seems such a shame that it appears to have been left in the wilderness now...

Michael Ou
07-11-2013, 11:05 PM
I have 3 three AF-S f2.8 Zooms that I'm looking forward to seeing characterized, they are:

Nikon ED AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm 2.8D
Nikon ED AF-S Nikkor 28-70mm 2.8D
Nikon ED AF-S Nikkor 80-200mm 2.8D

They have silent wave motors, so hopefully they may be included in the future, in the meantime I just use them in full manual mode. Hoping with great anticipation, and Thanks!!!

D Fuller
09-11-2013, 09:26 PM
This lens mount has been out for a year now. And still there are just 8 lenses that work with it. Is that all there is?

Also, its performance also seems to fall very far short of the performance indicated for the Canon mount in this thread: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?74361-EPIC-AUTO-FOCUS-LENS-TEST-POSTED-VIDEO

I couldn't come close to this performance with the Red Nikon mount and G lenses. Do I need to be filing a support ticket? or is this just the way the Nikon mount works?

This mount has been a great disappointment. It's is beautifully designed and made, but it just does not perform.

Sean Solowiej
09-11-2013, 11:34 PM
+1... disappointment



This lens mount has been out for a year now. And still there are just 8 lenses that work with it. Is that all there is?

Also, its performance also seems to fall very far short of the performance indicated for the Canon mount in this thread: http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?74361-EPIC-AUTO-FOCUS-LENS-TEST-POSTED-VIDEO

I couldn't come close to this performance with the Red Nikon mount and G lenses. Do I need to be filing a support ticket? or is this just the way the Nikon mount works?

This mount has been a great disappointment. It's is beautifully designed and made, but it just does not perform.

jaadgy akanni
09-11-2013, 11:51 PM
I for one have been somewhat disappointed as well. I hope the team can continue to characterize more lenses in the near future.

Jonas Klittmark
09-12-2013, 12:15 AM
Well, obviously there is not enough interest to make it a priority for RED and at this point I'm okay with that. I use it with "dumb" lenses only and it works great for those at least.

Martin Widerberg
09-12-2013, 12:48 AM
Very disappointing. It means I probably have to go the Canon route instead.
I really don't want to.

Always liked Nikon better, and if I'm not wrong, Jim or Jarred talked about the superior mechanical quality of Nikon, discussing different mounts. I have a whole set of my favorites and was planning to slowly expand with need.

Martin Widerberg
09-12-2013, 01:26 AM
I alway thought, even back in the days with the Red One, I would pull focus with the little knob coupled to the electronics . It would sit comfortably in my hand.
Why Red, or a third party havn't produced one, coupled to the electronic mount in this day and age is just strange.

PatrickFaith
09-12-2013, 01:35 AM
Very disappointing. It means I probably have to go the Canon route instead.
I really don't want to.

Always liked Nikon better, and if I'm not wrong, Jim or Jarred talked about the superior mechanical quality of Nikon, discussing different mounts. I have a whole set of my favorites and was planning to slowly expand with need.

I have seven nikon lenses (including two zooms) and they all work perfectly with the RED nikon mount. I never use autofocus though, so that must be what people are having problems with? i have always used manual focus, external focus rings or external computer focus. I have been moving off of canon lenses slowly, I just like the look of the nikon lenses better for what I am doing, so I think your strategy is sound.

Martin Widerberg
09-12-2013, 02:18 AM
Thank you Patrick for some Nikon love.
I had a couple of those lenses since I started out as a photographer at the age of 17. I'm 47 now. That's 30 years of solid performance.
Not something to give up lightly. I just prefer the Nikon cool look.
Maybe I should just give up on the autofocus idea and just continue to pull focus on the barell. Heck, it has worked for 30 years. I just liked the idea of some assistance.

David Kuhn
09-12-2013, 06:57 AM
I've had no problems with Nikon lenses either... but manual focus. The couple times I played with autofocus it seemed to work ok but it just isn't that useful with the red for me... now if the electronics could be used as an EFF that would be a different story (I think I recall seeing a redmote with a wheel once upon a time).

Vance Colvig
09-12-2013, 06:59 AM
Been a long wait.

Alan Peterson
09-15-2013, 11:58 AM
Aperture control seems to work on everything I've tried. Focus confirm works on Sigmas, but not OS or autofocus. Focus confirm doesn't seem to work consistently on the Tamron 24-70, though.

David Kuhn
09-21-2013, 04:30 AM
Thank you Patrick for some Nikon love.
I had a couple of those lenses since I started out as a photographer at the age of 17. I'm 47 now. That's 30 years of solid performance.
Not something to give up lightly. I just prefer the Nikon cool look.
Maybe I should just give up on the autofocus idea and just continue to pull focus on the barell. Heck, it has worked for 30 years. I just liked the idea of some assistance.

as I've played with setting up rack focus points, I've found that the af works we'll with the touchscreen to set location and focus for each point... Which I have mapped to red mote buttons. I've not tried yet but maybe af would be useful of stills work now.

Sean Solowiej
09-21-2013, 07:12 AM
as I've played with setting up rack focus points, I've found that the af works we'll with the touchscreen to set location and focus for each point... Which I have mapped to red mote buttons. I've not tried yet but maybe af would be useful of stills work now.

David, are you using the new beta firmware 5.1.14? Or having good luck focusing with release firmware? And which lens(es) are you using?

Thanks for some good news,
Sean

D Fuller
09-21-2013, 07:24 AM
I have seven nikon lenses (including two zooms) and they all work perfectly with the RED nikon mount. I never use autofocus though, so that must be what people are having problems with? i have always used manual focus, external focus rings or external computer focus. I have been moving off of canon lenses slowly, I just like the look of the nikon lenses better for what I am doing, so I think your strategy is sound.

My biggest issue is with aperture control of non-nikkor lenses. Ny Nikkors all work: the G lenses are controllable, and the non-G lenses work via manual aperture ring, as you'd expect. I have two important Tokina lenses for which thisis not the case. The iris on my 11-16 f2.8 (v1) works until I record, then closes down the iris at the end of every shot (AF does not work at all), requiring unmounting the lens to reset it. And my 28-70 f2.8 Tokina (the Angineux formula that is fully internally focussing) does not work at all. It has a manual iris, but the mount prevents the manual ring from stopping the iris down.

David Kuhn
09-21-2013, 09:50 AM
David, are you using the new beta firmware 5.1.14? Or having good luck focusing with release firmware? And which lens(es) are you using?

Thanks for some good news,
SeanI am using the beta firmware, and prior to this I'd given up on using autofocus because it too often didn't find focus (though I could usually get it to work if I tried a couple times). It SEEMS (not experimentally confirmed, just anecdotal from playing for an hour or two this week) that the new firmware is doing a better job of focusing (both faster and more reliable). All the Nikon AF lenses I've got are G Series, I think it this case it was the 24-70 F2.8 and the 85mm F1.4. I've been pretty happy with the beta firmware, though adaptive mode makes me nervous (used to hearing fans when I start the camera up), so I switched to Auto until I can do a more thorough test of how it works on my camera.

Keith Nealy
09-28-2013, 08:39 PM
Trying to make a decision to buy this Nikon mount and even after reading this thread several times it's hard to get a totally clear picture of what works and what doesn't.

My main concern at this point is aperture control on lenses with no manual aperture control. Not concerned with autofocus at this point.

Tokina 11-16mm ver 1 no motor.
Nikon 70-300mm AF S G
Nikon 18-105mm AF S G

All my other Nikon lens have full manual iris and focus so I'm not concerned with them at this point. I get that they will work.

I would hope that Red will eventually get all this working as they promised. I just don't want to be stuck with a mount where the electronic iris does not work as I am planning on buying some new glass.
I have no problem buying Doug's mount as I have some of his gear and he makes quality equipment, I would eventually like a fully electronic mount that works like the Canon mount, hence the decision to take a chance on the Red mount.

Any advice would be welcome. thanks.

Johnny Friday
09-28-2013, 08:48 PM
Advice: if you are not vested in Nikon glass and it's a decision either way.....My vote would be go Canon mount and glass.....I'm vested heavily in Nikon glass and stuck with manual nikon mount...i have the electronic from RED, but only works on a few of my lenses....as expected they are my primary lenses and not what most people would use....Seems the Canon mount (having been out WAY longer than the Nikon) has much more lens coverage and bugs worked out...

David Kuhn
09-29-2013, 07:48 AM
Trying to make a decision to buy this Nikon mount and even after reading this thread several times it's hard to get a totally clear picture of what works and what doesn't.

My main concern at this point is aperture control on lenses with no manual aperture control. Not concerned with autofocus at this point.

Tokina 11-16mm ver 1 no motor.
Nikon 70-300mm AF S G
Nikon 18-105mm AF S G

All my other Nikon lens have full manual iris and focus so I'm not concerned with them at this point. I get that they will work.

I would hope that Red will eventually get all this working as they promised. I just don't want to be stuck with a mount where the electronic iris does not work as I am planning on buying some new glass.
I have no problem buying Doug's mount as I have some of his gear and he makes quality equipment, I would eventually like a fully electronic mount that works like the Canon mount, hence the decision to take a chance on the Red mount.

Any advice would be welcome. thanks.

I have 6 G series lenses and both AF and Aperture work on them all (Al Mount)... but I don't have either of your lenses. I'd GUESS that all the G lenses have similar control (logical but not necessarily true)... have you found anyone with a G that doesn't work? (if not then you're probably safe).

If you're located near someone with a Nikon mount maybe they'd let you try them? I'm out in the middle of nowhere (upstate NY) so it'd be a bit far :-), but maybe someone else in the area?

Peter Lyons Collister, ASC
09-29-2013, 12:24 PM
I have 14 Nikon lenses. I have the dumb mount but want the smart mount for the few lenses without manual aperture.

I do feel that we Nikon folks are the bastard children but maybe we can put some gentle pressure on Red to keep developing the smart mount.

My Dragon test was 90% Nikon glass. Some friend at Red referred to my choice of glass as "ghetto"

Jacek Zakowicz
09-29-2013, 12:35 PM
I have 14 Nikon lenses. I have the dumb mount but want the smart mount for the few lenses without manual aperture.

I do feel that we Nikon folks are the bastard children but maybe we can put some gentle pressure on Red to keep developing the smart mount.

My Dragon test was 90% Nikon glass. Some friend at Red referred to my choice of glass as "ghetto"
That wasn't nice or even accurate. Nikon glass creates some of the most beautiful images ever. Nikon is a lens company with a camera biz on the side. Canon is a camera company with a lens biz on the side.
IMO...

Sean Solowiej
09-30-2013, 08:51 AM
That wasn't nice or even accurate. Nikon glass creates some of the most beautiful images ever. Nikon is a lens company with a camera biz on the side. Canon is a camera company with a lens biz on the side.
IMO...


...And Red is an amazing camera company with a lens mount biz apparently in its distant past.

David Kuhn
09-30-2013, 09:02 AM
I suppose if you're comparing cinema to still you might find Nikon Ghetto (since you can get a whole set of Nikon zooms and primes for less than one decent quality cinema lens), but they make/have made many great lenses and if they're ghetto then so is the rest of the Photography market.

Peter Savage
09-30-2013, 09:06 AM
Well ... I have been trying to get someone from Red to actually respond to questions about the future of the Nikon mount for a long time. So far no one from Red has ever responded to any thread regarding functionality of Nikon lenses on the Epic - other than the few lenses listed when the mount was introduced. A real shame IMO.

That said, I have not had time to test the new firmware update - which I think has some sort of lens calibration set up that suggests it might mean one can get Nikon lenses to work.

My Tokina 11 - 16mm v 1 does not work. The iris closes after every shot. My Nikon 35mm with lens motor works fine.

I have stated in other posts that if I knew at the time that this was going to be so slow and frankly ignored by Red I probably would have gone for the Canon Mount and invested in new Canon lenses I think I would have been better off - For many people who already own Nikon lenses that would just add another layer of expense and more things to carry around if you want to work flexibly with a DLSR and an Epic. The Camera is fantastic - what a pity the Nikon mount has not lived up to anyone's expectations

James Peach
10-01-2013, 01:05 PM
I have the Ti Nikon mount, when using the build b4 4.0.18 some lenses would work that are not on the list.
Then jumped to 4.0.18 right a way every lenses I tried to use made me set up a custom profile, no problem doing this just takes time and best have it plugged in as well as a battery.
With the up date seems to allow me to use any lens from nikon.

For as much as people bring up nikon or say they want it or want a up date no one seems to reply about this.
Till they do the up date but still was not put out there to help us know about it more.

I find my self using more nikon lens then all my PL now.

Peter Savage
10-01-2013, 01:10 PM
For as much as people bring up nikon or say they want it or want a up date no one seems to reply about this.
Till they do the up date but still was not put out there to help us know about it more.

I think this is one major issue with the nikon mount. I just don't understand why Red does not ever respond to questions and comments about it. Does not seem to be in their usual philosophy... very disappointing

Martin Widerberg
10-14-2013, 12:20 PM
Well, I guess it's like a slow break-up. First you promised each over the world, but your partner start to lose interest, and now you don't really talk anymore...
I think RED got burned by the magnitude of problems included in producing all the stuff they dreamt of. It's just easier to just have the pl and Canon mount supported. Only problem is that I love dreamers. I think that is why I bought into RED. And I really don't want to buy seven Canon lenses. Please show us some Nikon love.

Keith Nealy
10-15-2013, 09:40 PM
Does the new Epic build help with the Nikon lenses compatibility at all? I heard there was some improvements.
Thanks.

Thomas Pohl
10-16-2013, 01:36 AM
I think this is one major issue with the nikon mount. I just don't understand why Red does not ever respond to questions and comments about it. Does not seem to be in their usual philosophy... very disappointing

I second this!

Thomas.

Danai Chutinaton
10-16-2013, 01:51 AM
I'm secretly hoping that RED will add the ability for us to "profile" lenses for both the Nikon F and Canon EF mounts so we won't need to wait for official support.

Rob Anderson
12-03-2013, 04:54 AM
Nikon is a lens company with a camera biz on the side. Canon is a camera company with a lens biz on the side.
Well said.

David Kuhn
12-03-2013, 08:43 AM
I'm thinking the odds of ever seeing a Nikon motion mount are pretty slim... maybe the market isn't there, Canon has a vibrant video business going - I don't ever hear anyone say they use the D800 for video (I've got one and I don't use it for video, fantastic STILL camera).

D Fuller
12-03-2013, 09:49 AM
I'm thinking the odds of ever seeing a Nikon motion mount are pretty slim... maybe the market isn't there, Canon has a vibrant video business going - I don't ever hear anyone say they use the D800 for video (I've got one and I don't use it for video, fantastic STILL camera).

It's a very good video camera too, but when you've got an Epic, why would you use a D800?

Daniel Murphy
12-03-2013, 09:57 AM
As I've said on countless occasions Canon is a herd mentality. Give them credit for having a budget likely 100:1 as compared to Nikon in terms of marketing, R & D. Hard to compete with that. But Nikon does it in their own quiet way with cutting-edge sensor technology and terrific optics. Many of new crop instantly classify themselves as 'photographers' after purchasing a bag full of Canon gear. Ooh all the really cool white-colored lenses. They often ask me why I use Nikon, I respond 'why do you use Canon?'

I'd be willing to say a fair number of them have never used cameras with film or know little about history of SLR bodies, but they do know a bag full of Canon equipment makes them a 'photographer' or 'filmmaker.' When I speak to university students of course their camera of choice is Canon. Hey what else better to accompany their $40K yearly tuition then 'the only choice.'

Truth be told go to any major event such as the Super Bowl or Oscars or cover President of United States and you'll see an equal distribution of both amongst true professionals. Perhaps even more Nikon. Canon is lucky Nikon can not spend the $Millions in research or there would be a larger discrepancy between the two.

Some would point to large agencies such as Getty using Canon exclusively but I'd throw back Nikon decided not to 'give up the house' for Getty or others just so they would use it. It all balances as it should. Nikon optics are widely known for superior forensic equipment, testing and measurement around the world. They are less frills but nothing short on quality.

Canon makes great stuff, no doubt about it, I hear the guy next to me with three 1DX bodies around his neck getting an extra frame or two per second of that big moment at an event, and stuff looks tack sharp.

Hey in the end just give Nikon a little love. As a professional I stuck with Nikon through thick and thin never switched; knock on wood never will switch.

Alas, end to my Nikon diatribe for today.

Erwin van Dijck
12-04-2013, 12:45 AM
Well said!

Alan Peterson
01-13-2014, 03:04 PM
It's a very good video camera too, but when you've got an Epic, why would you use a D800?
I find myself using the D800 somewhat regularly for clients on a tight budget, solo backpacking or location scouting situations to lighten the load, and a fair amount of talking head/pickup shot situations where resolution isn't critical. The bulk of my filming is done on the Epic, but it's nice to have something smaller and lighter that produces tiny file sizes in the bag.