red camera useless?

[xstimux]

iF i cant get to the footage does that mean RED is useless? I think so. Red is not a real workable production camera if these silly post hurdles are'nt worked out.

I am having major issues with Redcine frozen frame issue. I just got a new mac pro 8-core and I am trying to export but I am getting freeze frames right from the beginning. Absolutely nothing usable. Even with TIFF export. Before with my older mac pro I would at least get a few minutes of usable material before it froze the shot. But now its frozen from the very beginning. Any ideas?

[Ivan G]

I would start by using the search tool. Welcome to reduser and congrats on your 1st post.

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

lol.. nice answer Abu Reno

Edit with the proxy files created by the camera, or make your own in RED Alert, then trouble shoot your REDCine workflow.

[Craig Bowman]

Hopefully you are still running QuickTime 7.3.anything and not QuickTime 7.4 or beyond as everyone has been warned.

[John Tissavary]

iF i cant get to the footage does that mean RED is useless? I think so. Red is not a real workable production camera if these silly post hurdles are'nt worked out.

I am having major issues with Redcine frozen frame issue. I just got a new mac pro 8-core and I am trying to export but I am getting freeze frames right from the beginning. Absolutely nothing usable. Even with TIFF export. Before with my older mac pro I would at least get a few minutes of usable material before it froze the shot. But now its frozen from the very beginning. Any ideas?

Any digital post workflow based on bleeding edge technology that pushes software & hardware to its limits is going to present challenges... it surprises me that people are so caught off guard by this.

I'm assuming your thread title is born of frustration, but...

There are plenty of people (including me) getting their footage finished, so even though it can be incredibly frustrating to work out the problems initially, rest assured there is a way. This doesn't mean it's easy, or even cheap/free, but getting r3d to work in post is extremely do-able.

If you would like me to transcode via Scratch, pm me and I'll see what I can do to help. I have transcoded & finished several Red projects since firmware build 6.

I may regret this, but...

That goes for anybody. PM me if you are having problems. If I have time I will process a (reasonable/limited) amount of footage for free as a thanks to the Reduser community for making our project(s) possible. I'll even throw in some basic color work. This is a free offer, but please understand... I can only do this work in what little spare time I have so if you have a sensetive deadline this probably won't work for you.

jt

[JFirestone]

Maybe this has been covered elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. How much does Scratch cost? I'm guessing it's really expensive, since people are not considering it to be an option except for big post houses. I checked their site, and it was one of those, call us for a quote type things. But if anyone knows, I am curious about how much it would run to get a Scratch licence.

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

There was lots of discussion about this with Lucas on REDuser; months ago now I suppose..
The upshot of every such discussion was that it depends entirely on what you need hardware-wise; so that is why Lucas would like to deal with cost enquiries on an individual basis.
Of course someone may PM you what their system cost ;-)

I understand it's a wee bit more than a MacPro and Color..:)

[John Tissavary]

Maybe this has been covered elsewhere, but I haven't seen it. How much does Scratch cost? I'm guessing it's really expensive, since people are not considering it to be an option except for big post houses. I checked their site, and it was one of those, call us for a quote type things. But if anyone knows, I am curious about how much it would run to get a Scratch licence.

Although Scratch is extremely inexpensive considering the competition, it is not really 'desktop' category software like Color, definitely in a professional price category. Its designed for and marketed to post facilities for high end conform & DI, where demands for speed & reliability outweigh low entry price, and rates charged make economic sense with the original investment in software & hardware.

But, it's amazing software, and I think more and more people are going to be looking into it for various applications, not just Red.

Anyway, my offer stands. If someone's having problems with their R3D footage and current beta version of Redcine, PM me and I'll see what I can do.

cheers,


jt

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

xstimux you have the first negative feedback :angry2:

[Deanan]

Since you have a MacPro, I recommend trying RedAlert also. Because RedCine is GPU based AND crossplatform, there are numerous issues with drivers and system setup which can break things.

[Anders Holck]

RedAlert is a great app, it's just unfortunate it stll doesnt support 4k in 16:9....:innocent:

[donatello b]

i don't think this is the 1st neg feedback ...there are many PC'er that are having problems ... i'm a bit surpirsed as i thought any newer Mac had no problems with Red files/software ...
i'm a PC'er and i can't view/play back any files on 3 PC's here ... a friend left a 24" iMac here so i have something till end of Feb - if the Mac wasn't here i'd be complaining too ....
i haven't seen a list of PCs' to buy or a list of parts that one could go out and buy - bring it home and you are up & running on a PC ....

i'm not switching to Mac .. by Mar 1 i hope to see something solid for a PC ...

[Deanan]

RedAlert is a great app, it's just unfortunate it stll doesnt support 4k in 16:9....:innocent:

It will. I do wish everyone would stop assuming that we have infinite resources and development happens instantaneously. We didn't want to enable 4k 16:9 because of this and we did because users asked for it even though it wasn't supported on all the tools. Maybe we should take it out of the firmware until everything is ready?

[Anders Holck]

I know. I'm just playing with you...

[Andrew M.]

Why we do not get the list of machines and exact congifs of them that RED is using to test the REDCINE.

I am getting my camera in one month or two and I had many problems with REDCINE on PC.

Most of problems I fixed just by reading this forum and some I just asked the question, just to learn that someone already asked the same question before and was already answered. I just missed it when searching the forum.

I made mistake by buying Dell XPS top of the line. Basic mistake, never buy technology pushed to the limits for newly developed products, John is 100% right. Entirely forgot it...
RED should announce the configuration of the machine or machines that they use to test REDCINE
The only what I read here was buy NVIDIA or ATI.
Well, I bought NVIDIA.

RED please give us the short list of what you are using out there for testing, one for Mac one for PC.

Please include one fast laptop for in the field first post for each operating system that you are using for tests. I hope you are testing on Laptop as well?

I am very close to test Newton's first law of motion with my Dell

[Cüneyt Kaya]

Why we do not get the list of machines and exact congifs of them that RED is using to test the REDCINE.

I am getting my camera in one month or two and I had many problems with REDCINE on PC.

Most of problems I fixed just by reading this forum and some I just asked the question, just to learn that someone already asked the same question before and was already answered. I just missed it when searching the forum.

I made mistake by buying Dell XPS top of the line. Basic mistake, never buy technology pushed to the limits for newly developed products, John is 100% right. Entirely forgot it...
RED should announce the configuration of the machine or machines that they use to test REDCINE
The only what I read here was buy NVIDIA or ATI.
Well, I bought NVIDIA.

RED please give us the short list of what you are using out there for testing, one for Mac one for PC.

Please include one fast laptop for in the field first post for each operating system that you are using for tests. I hope you are testing on Laptop as well?

I am very close to test Newton's first law of motion with my Dell

i can understand that it is sometimes frustating,
but all the very important stuff is a sticky

here you have one for system feedbacks:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5965

you will get a good overview for what is working and what not.

here is one that resolves the 1st freeze frame QT issue on a PC
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7865

here is one for known bugs:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8125

[Andrew M.]

Yes, I went through all these threads few times.
But once build 82 was introduced all what was posted in the system feedback could be scrapped again.
What was working with old build may not work with the new one unless it is exactly the same configuration that was used to debug the build by the RED.
I see a lot of desktop configs for Mac that works and in particular with REDALERT but when it comes to the PC and only REDCINE the choices are very narrow.
Desktop is easy, you just pull this card and replace it with another or you just put different mother board in the worse case.
With laptop you are locked to the one configuration, if it doesn’t work then you have to change the laptop, the question is to which one?
So far dpx export works fine, I have trouble with exporting using QuickTime codec H.264
263 works, 261 works but 264 crashes the REDCINE end exits, no freeze.
I am not ready to upload this log to the log sticky, I have to check few more things, but if anybody has the same problem, let me know.

21:07:39.95 INFO : Update Project Media registry
: Updated/saved 0 clips (0.0062 Sec.)
: PB: 'ImgProcess', Create a 4096x2304 Pixel Buffer..
21:07:41.11 ERROR: GFX PB(1): Unable to create pixel buffer : ''
21:07:41.11 ERROR: CG: Failed to setup a 4096x2304 pixel buffer..
: PB: 'ImgProcess', Create a 4096x2304 Pixel Buffer..
21:07:42.27 ERROR: GFX PB(1): Unable to create pixel buffer : ''
21:07:42.27 ERROR: CG: Failed to setup a 4096x2304 pixel buffer..
: PB: 'ImgProcess', Create a 4096x2048 Pixel Buffer..
: PB: Ready..
21:07:42.60 WARN : CG Render: OpenGL Error - Out of memory
21:07:43.60 ERROR: QT Codec: CRASHED during compressing a frame..
: Frame: 2048x1024 - 8 bit
21:07:43.60 ERROR: QT Codec: Failed to compress frame (error -1)..
: Frame: 2048x1024 - 8 bit
: CG Render - Total: 0.634 Setup: 0.041 Render: 0.276 Read: 0.317

[MosesMa]

I am having major issues with Redcine frozen frame issue. I just got a new mac pro 8-core and I am trying to export but I am getting freeze frames right from the beginning. Absolutely nothing usable. Even with TIFF export. Before with my older mac pro I would at least get a few minutes of usable material before it froze the shot. But now its frozen from the very beginning. Any ideas?

I don't have any useful ideas for solving your crash problem, but I do have a suggestion for how you can survive the challenges of post production of RED footage. You really need to try to stay positive, and even try to learn how to enjoy the various challenges you be presented with, sort of like a Rubic's Cube or Sudoku of system issues to solve. You really need to stay positive or you'll end up tearing out your hair, especially if you're in it for the long run.

Like, for example, I didn't know that Quicktime 7.4 was crippled with DRM, so I downloaded Pacifist and rolled back to QT 7.3.1. Of course this totally screwed up the entire Leopard installation ON MY PARTICULAR MACHINE and it started crashing every ten minutes. But eventually, through the painstaking process of re-installing the OS a number of times in various configurations, I managed to arrive at a stable version of the OS, FCP, QT and the RED QT codec. Just in case this might be useful... I think Leopard is the core problem, so I re-installed Tiger OS 10.4.7, updated to 10.4.11 so I could install Quicktime 7.3.1, and THEN re-installed the RED QT codec. It's all relatively stable now, but it took a full two days to get it right. And I suspect the configuration is different for different generations of hardware, firmware and graphics card.

I'm new here, so I didn't realize that the key is simply refusing to click okay, every time Apple offers an update, because FCP is relying on an older version of Quicktime... and Apple doesn't really test stuff against its own applications before releasing stuff. They seem to rather let the community put in the effort to help sort out incompatibilities and other issues.

Sometimes I wish they made an Apple voodoo doll, so every time my Mac crashes I could stick a pin into...

Oops, gotta stay positive. Gotta stay positive.

Best of luck to ya!

[vincelucero]

Nice post Moses. I know how ya feel.

[Lexicon]

I can't wait for that Linux workflow! It's gonna be a great thing.

[xstimux]

why does everyone just give this camera the benefit of the doubt? Its not a production camera? Its not for professionals YET.

The image is almost there but the camera menus and software, high frame rate [push in on sensor] issue that gives a soft image and the entire post workflow is FAR from being ready for someone who makes a living creating imagery.

Anyone who replies otherwise is just a RED fan ...

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Your conclusion is correct. Your premise is wrong.

Yes: if you couldn't get footage out of REDCine you wouldn't have a viable workflow and the camera would be useless.

No: you can get footage out of redcine just not through quicktime.


As I see it I have the exact same workflow with RED as I do with 35mm. Except instead of dropping by AlphaCine to do a convoluted chemical process I work through a mildly convoluted and inefficient software process.

You add command line network rendering to DPX to into the mix and you have a quite straightforward DPX workflow.

If you have a 2k or 4k workflow right now replace your Spirit with REDCine and you've got the exact same workflow. (The only difference being that a REDCine suite costs next to nothing compared to even an unsupervised spirit scan.)

[Poi Boy]

why does everyone just give this camera the benefit of the doubt? Its not a production camera? Its not for professionals YET.

The image is almost there but the camera menus and software, high frame rate [push in on sensor] issue that gives a soft image and the entire post workflow is FAR from being ready for someone who makes a living creating imagery.

Anyone who replies otherwise is just a RED fan ...

I think a lot of us disagree with you. I make my living creating imagery and it certainly works for me.
Aloha
-A

[Fergus Meiklejohn]

I
Sometimes I wish they made an Apple voodoo doll, so every time my Mac crashes I could stick a pin into...

Oops, gotta stay positive. Gotta stay positive.

Best of luck to ya!



:) I reckon even Laotze would have lost it with Apple over their quicktime issues :pinch:

He'd have takin his Mac Pro and gone and filled in Steve Jobs' empty space with it..:biggrin:

[Lucas Wilson]

...and the entire post workflow is FAR from being ready for someone who makes a living creating imagery.

Anyone who replies otherwise is just a RED fan ...

Or someone who actually is making a living creating imagery and working with RED material in post, and is too busy to respond to inflammatory trolling.

Lucas
------
ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA

[Colin C]

I can't wait for that Linux workflow! It's gonna be a great thing.

Lexicon have you heard something?? I'm still building my post kit and this brought the planning to a crashing halt. Well ok, it just really caught my attention.
Linux? :sorcerer:

[Craig Meadows]

To the original poster - my workflow for the first spot I shot on my RED:
-Shot 2K for file size management, wish I had shot 4K-but that's another
story.
-Brought files in to RED ALERT on my lowly 2.16MHz MacBook Pro.
-Scrubbed all day long in low-rez - color graded in hi-rez. Not one crash.
-Exported sequential 2K DPX files. Not one error.
-Imported those in to AE interpreted as 23.976.
-Popped them in to a 720x486 23.976 SD comp.
-Scaled to taste (letterbox).
-Rendered out (adding pull down) to a AJA Kona 8-bit uncompressed codec.
-Imported those in to FCP SD timeline.
-Edited as usual.
-Client loved it.
Professional work flow, no? I've been in this business over 20 years, I make my living doing this. Perhaps you should consider another line of work if you can't figure it out because it's not hard for a professional.

[Dylan Reeve]

Personally I was very disappointed with the RED - I took the cartridge thing from the camera, put it in our Panasonic AJ-HD1400 (a top of the range professional deck) and the thing just kind of fell in. I pressed play but nothing happened.

But seriously... The camera is still pretty new - there's what, 500 of them in the market now? It's still officially in Beta. There certainly are workflows, even in Windows, they're not idea, but they will be... I'd like to quote this:




All,

Many Avid customers and employees have commented on this thread and the one on the Reduser.net forum so I wanted to weigh in.

I understand the interest that the Red Camera is creating in the market as well as our mutual customers’ desire to have a cohesive workflow with Avid.

We are currently trying to set up a meeting with Jim and his team to figure out the best way to move forward with this.

Thanks,
Graham


That is a post from Avid GM of Video, Graham Sharp on the Avid Forums. The industry is ready - as soon as RED has their format locked off then we'll see balls rolling in many different NLEs.

[Andrew M.]

To the original poster - my workflow for the first spot I shot on my RED:
-Shot 2K for file size management, wish I had shot 4K-but that's another
story.
-Brought files in to RED ALERT on my lowly 2.16MHz MacBook Pro.
-Scrubbed all day long in low-rez - color graded in hi-rez. Not one crash.
-Exported sequential 2K DPX files. Not one error.
-Imported those in to AE interpreted as 23.976.
-Popped them in to a 720x486 23.976 SD comp.
-Scaled to taste (letterbox).
-Rendered out (adding pull down) to a AJA Kona 8-bit uncompressed codec.
-Imported those in to FCP SD timeline.
-Edited as usual.
-Client loved it.
Professional work flow, no? I've been in this business over 20 years, I make my living doing this. Perhaps you should consider another line of work if you can't figure it out because it's not hard for a professional.

Try the same with XP based laptop machine, pick the one. I tried 3 different Dell machines.

Anything from Dell XPS (NVIDA based) to Dell Latitude (ATI based)
So far no word of help from RED, they support top of the line Mac Laptops but looks like no top (or not so top) of the line XP based laptop is supported.

Only XP based desktops so far, I have heard are working.

Yes MacBook Pro......well, maybe instead of changing the profession as you suggested I will change operating system.

But it is like asking Catholic to convert to Muslim or vice versa, just so his job is done.

Andrew

[Craig Meadows]

Try the same with XP based laptop machine, pick the one. I tried 3 different Dell machines.

Anything from Dell XPS (NVIDA based) to Dell Latitude (ATI based)
So far no word of help from RED, they support top of the line Mac Laptops but looks like no top (or not so top) of the line XP based laptop is supported.

Only XP based desktops so far, I have heard are working.

Yes MacBook Pro......well, maybe instead of changing the profession as you suggested I will change operating system.

But it is like asking Catholic to convert to Muslim or vice versa, just so his job is done.

Andrew

Apology for the rant on changing professions, did not mean to offend those having problems on the pc side - original post and his follow ups got me a bit riled.

We run both macs and pc's in our shop. I like to use whatever tool is best for the job. Swearing off a tool even though it might make your life easier seems counter productive to me. The more tools you learn in this business the more versatile you will become. In this case being OS agnostic works really well - lol.

A RED ONE is a big investment for many of us. If you want RED image quality and a efficient, painless work-flow - the investment in a intel mac while an extra expense should be considered since it is what works best at the moment. People are paying $5k for matte boxes, up to $10k for heads/sticks. A little extra expense for a computer that will pull it all together just makes sense at this level. Wouldn't have to use it for finishing, just processing RED files. Think of it as your telecine suite using RED ALERT or REDCINE. When done processing send the files to your PC for editing. We are considering a iMac to sit along side our Mac Pro in the edit suite so we can process files on one while the other finishes.

[Craig Bowman]

The camera is always the inexpensive part of the setup. When I bought a pair of DVX100As a few years back I spent well over tens times their combined new worth on support gear including computers and software. I just dropped over $50K on my first Red package. Although a lot of that original support gear translates over, such a location audio, lights, dollies, cranes etc. I still see dropping at least another $50-100K in supporting all that Red will need. Its just part of the process. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in for a rude awakening. (Think of display, 4k displays and at least one Red projector down the Road)

[Lexicon]

Lexicon have you heard something?? I'm still building my post kit and this brought the planning to a crashing halt. Well ok, it just really caught my attention.
Linux? :sorcerer:

Jannard said Linux would be supported (eventually) for workflow. He didn't say it was coming next week or anything like that and given the state of DV on Linux, I highly doubt it would be coming anytime in the immediate future but I for one will gladly adopt a Linux solution if I'm not already using something I'm comfortable with. I'd gladly pay for it if it was a solid choice that I can trust. At the very least, it will allow me to incorporate inexpensive Linux machines into a work pipeline once it's ready.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

I think when they say "linux workflow" they're referring to the REDCine side of things with the command line tools.

Jim's not going to write a quality editor.

I suppose you could say that Smoke is a working linux workflow and I know there are some smoke editors on these forums who have used smoke with red.

[Andrew M.]

CraigF and Craig the money is not a big issue here.
Portability is. I can have only one laptop in the field and have to run XP for some other programs. At the same time exporting to H.264 or VC-1 is the best so far in our workflow for initial checking and sending it back home over the wire from remote location.

Will MacBook Pro dual-boot in to the XP?
Andrew

[Deanan]

Will MacBook Pro dual-boot in to the XP?
Andrew

Yup. I run XP as dual boot and also under parallels on MBP.

[Craig Meadows]

Andrew, I hear what you are saying. I have not used boot camp and not sure how well it plays with RED ALERT or REDCINE. Perhaps some others can chime in here on their experience. We installed Parallels on our office intel mac and found it rather slow and clunky. Boot Camp requires a re-boot but it does runs native unlike Parallels.

Here is a link to the apple site about boot camp:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html

Sounds all cozy from a marketing view but not sure how well the boot camp drivers, particularly for graphics display work with RED software.

I actually have a unused copy of XP around here. Need to see what my available disk space is like on the MacBook Pro. If I have time this evening I will attempt some simple tests installing boot camp, XP, and RED ALERT in particular. Could be a long evening!

[Andrew M.]

This will be great! experiment to see if RED ALERT works on MacBook Pro in XT mode.

I don’t think so. But REDCINE should work fine.
Try to output H.264 QT mov file from REDCINE.

What I see from the log files so far REDCINE has trouble to talk to NVIDIA
On the Mac running XP it should work without any problem.
It is more card driver specific problem that I see on my laptops here.

[J.D. Frey]

why does everyone just give this camera the benefit of the doubt? Its not a production camera? Its not for professionals YET.

The image is almost there but the camera menus and software, high frame rate [push in on sensor] issue that gives a soft image and the entire post workflow is FAR from being ready for someone who makes a living creating imagery.

Anyone who replies otherwise is just a RED fan ...

Wha? there are Pros using this camera. Anyone that replies otherwise is just a dick.

[Gavin Greenwalt]

The problem with Macbook pros is I've had some color consistancy issues on apple laptops. The non-macpro version is absolutely useless color wise even by laptop standards.

The drivers are still kind of iffy for 3D and it's an ATI card instead of NVIDIA.

If your primary machine is XP a Macbook pro is an inferior XP machine imho.

[Colin C]

I think when they say "linux workflow" they're referring to the REDCine side of things with the command line tools.

Jim's not going to write a quality editor....


Good point! Reining in speculation. :whistling:
I love the look of smoke but I think its a tad out of my price range or skill base at this point in time.

[Dylan Reeve]

There's a few NLEs in Linux that look somewhat close to being pretty decent...

Actually even Blender can edit... Crazy.

[Colin C]

I'm optimistic that its not too far off before it becomes a viable option (for the whole process).

[Poi Boy]

The problem with Macbook pros is I've had some color consistancy issues on apple laptops. The non-macpro version is absolutely useless color wise even by laptop standards.

The drivers are still kind of iffy for 3D and it's an ATI card instead of NVIDIA.

If your primary machine is XP a Macbook pro is an inferior XP machine imho.

If you want XP you should definately be running it on an intel machine, can't say that, a windows machine ? anyway, not Apple. Gavin, I'm sure your face is on a poster on the wall at Apple...shoot on sight LOL
Aloha
-A

[Brian Ferguson]

iF i cant get to the footage does that mean RED is useless? I think so. Red is not a real workable production camera if these silly post hurdles are'nt worked out.

I am having major issues with Redcine frozen frame issue. I just got a new mac pro 8-core and I am trying to export but I am getting freeze frames right from the beginning. Absolutely nothing usable. Even with TIFF export. Before with my older mac pro I would at least get a few minutes of usable material before it froze the shot. But now its frozen from the very beginning. Any ideas?

Wow I just stumbled on this thread. If you have a Mac have you tried the QT reference files in Final Cut Pro it works great for me. I know I will read through all of these other threads and see a lot of the same comments.

Honestly I have had happy customers showing people the 2k QT Proxies in Final Cut Pro and have had no unhappy customers. Now I will go on and read all of the pages of agnst!

Brian Ferguson - BriFerg

[Andrew M.]

And if you could read this
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=145512&postcount=45

and this
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=145897&postcount=46

I would appreciate.
Could you be so kind and find out what laptop RED QC is using to test REDCINE XP version please.
I can’t find any laptop that runs with REDCINE on XP

Andrew

[Lucas Wilson]

And if you could read this
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=145512&postcount=45

and this
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpost.php?p=145897&postcount=46

I would appreciate.
Could you be so kind and find out what laptop RED QC is using to test REDCINE XP version please.
I can’t find any laptop that runs with REDCINE on XP

Andrew

I have been running REDCINE on XP on my laptop successfully for months now. Here's a couple of cherry-picked lines from my most recent logfile, and you can see what kind of machine I'm running:



: WIN32 Version 5.01 (Build: 2600 - Service Pack 2)
: Dual: Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2600 @ 2.16GHz
: FPU : Precision 53 bits
: Timer frequency : 3.58 MHz
: Timer resolution: 1 ms
: Physical memory : 2047 Mb



: Display Device: NVIDIA Quadro FX 2500M
: Resolution : 1920x1200
: Frequency : 60.0 Hz.



: NVidia Api : NVidia Complete Version 1.10
: Driver : 156.79 (R156_00-8558)


I can playback, load hundreds of clips, and render with no issues. Quicktime, DPX, whatever... no problems. And I don't even keep this machine very clean. It's my email machine, along with having the CS2 suite, a bunch of system hacks, extensive Registry screwing-around-with, Office2003, iTunes, Skype, Trillian, etc, etc.

Lucas
------
ASSIMILATE, Inc.
LA, CA, USA
(currently in Tokyo)

[Andrew M.]

Lucas, thanks for logs!
I also got the config of RED test machine from RED yesterday.
Now I see where the problem is, REDCINE build 82 is expecting NVIDIA Quadro
It is your config and RED test machine config and few others that reported that they can output 4K to QT H.264 2K
NVIDIA 8800 or 8700 will crash codec or produce out of memory error. I have GT8700M on my Dell XPS M1730. (see log below)
I am close to declare that REDCINE XP will not run on any XP laptop out there without NVIDIA Quadro.
Yet it will run on MacBook .
Anybody that will point me to the NVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT based laptop running XP (not Mac) and able to produce 2K QT H.264 from 4K R3D using REDCINE-b82 deserves good bottle of whisky delivered to his doorsteps........:-)

Andrew

15:30:52.08 INFO : ---------------------------------------------------
: OpenGL Context setup:
: -------------------------------------------------
: OpenGL : 2.1.1 (GeForce 8700M GT/PCI/SSE2)
: GLEW : 1.5.0
: Display mode : 3
: Swap Control : Swap on v-sync
: Swap Groups : Supported
: Gamma tables : NVidia cpl. (2: DA, DB)
: Pixel format : Available
: Pixel buffers : Available
: FP buffers : Available
: Frame buffers : Available
: FP textures : Available
: Fragment Program : Available
: Occlusion Query : Available
: ARB Shading L1.0 : Version 1.20 NVIDIA via Cg compiler
: ARB Shading Obj. : Available
: -------------------------------------------------
: NVidia Api : NVidia Complete Version 1.10
: Driver : 156.69 (R156_67-8534)
: Nr. of GPU's : 2
: Framebuffer size : 256.00 Mb
: -------------------------------------------------
15:30:52.08 INFO : ---------------------------------------------------
: PB: Setup 2 readback buffers, 16.00 MB
15:30:52.08 INFO : ---------------------------------------------------
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[Andrew M.]

Lucas, could you be so kind and check if you can take 4K Jim’s race track clip A003_C007_071105_001.R3D
from here:
http://www.redrelay.net/owners/0010/ (Jarred Land) post

and save it (output it) to QT H.264 2K 2048X1024 .mov file at 50Mbit/sec

Dell XPS M1730 is faster that MacBook Pro I think:

Dual core 2.8GHz
Dual 256MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 8700M GS
Drives 7400 RAID 0 or RAID 1

First laptop I see that supports RAID 0 or RAID 1 right in the laptop, the same config and performance as REDDRIVE

http://www.dell.com/content/products...en&s=dhs&cs=19

I can play QT .mov files at 50MB/sec at 24fps

What do you think?

Andrew

[Gunleik Groven]

If your Red feels useless, contact me and I will relieve you of your burden!
Anytime.
the more people feeling this way, the more helpfull I will be!
I could even pick up the transportation cost, if you're so inclined.

Gunleik

[Andrew M.]

It is xstimux second post so he needs to get up to the speed here.....
He needs to use more of the search button.