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Joshua Reis
05-15-2012, 11:58 AM
If shooting digital, I usually push for Epic or Alexa, but I figured this would be a great project to push the Scarlet using vintage anamorphic glass.

Chrystian - Get It In


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPXM6EzgaM0&feature=player_embedded


Link to video from my website for international viewers.

http://www.joshuareis.com/quicktimes/musicvideo/Chrystia_GetItIn.mov

Here is another link that may work for you.

http://www.mevio.com/episode/314423/...in-music-video (http://www.mevio.com/episode/314423/chrystian-get-it-in-music-video)

http://www.mtv.com/videos/chrystian/...et-it-in.jhtml (http://www.mtv.com/videos/chrystian/763918/get-it-in.jhtml)

oliver imfeld
05-15-2012, 12:35 PM
doesn't play in Belgium !

Kemalettin Sert
05-15-2012, 12:40 PM
same here

Brandon J.F.
05-15-2012, 12:51 PM
How did you use anamorphic lenses with your Scarlet?

Brandon J.F.
05-15-2012, 12:57 PM
Found this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PcCT8MsGIU

Ryan Skeete
05-15-2012, 01:23 PM
Doesn't play in Canada either....

Joshua Reis
05-15-2012, 02:26 PM
Here is another link that may work for you.

http://www.mevio.com/episode/314423/chrystian-get-it-in-music-video

http://www.mtv.com/videos/chrystian/763918/get-it-in.jhtml

Joshua Reis
05-15-2012, 02:31 PM
The camera was set to 4k (QHD) mode so the image was distorted to the touchscreen or EVF. However, via HDSD we used an onboard TV logic VFM-056W and remote FSI 21" LM-2140W monitors which are both cable of manually squeezing the image for live preview. Since the anamorphics are a 2x squeeze and we are using a 16: sensor area (instead of the appropriate 4:3 are) we get a super wide aspect ratio. I'm not sure what it is? 3.56:1? The image is then squeezed in Redcine upon transcoding.

Paramon Ivanovich
05-15-2012, 06:16 PM
fuckin outstanding!
i would shoot to 235 and crop the sides, but man, looks goooood!

Bob Gundu
05-15-2012, 06:55 PM
Stellar! Nice BTS video too.

Brad Allen
05-15-2012, 07:27 PM
Some of the best Scarlet footage I have seen to date :)

James Palmer
05-15-2012, 08:30 PM
Money, money, money, money! Great job Joshua.

BRANDON JAMESON
05-15-2012, 09:05 PM
Other than the questionable delight of using anamorphic lenses on a client's budget, what is the possible advantage of using less than a third of your image area in your final product?
THis reminds me of dvxuser.com stuff from years ago.

Joshua Reis
05-15-2012, 09:53 PM
Other than the questionable delight of using anamorphic lenses on a client's budget, what is the possible advantage of using less than a third of your image area in your final product?
THis reminds me of dvxuser.com stuff from years ago.


Its definitely an aesthetic and creative risk. I expect some people to embrace it while others to find it distasteful or distracting. Its certainly not the first time it has been done. I think it all depends on the compositions that you would like to achieve. I remember not too long ago, The majority of clients would ask, "why are we shooting 16:9 when my TV at home is 4:3?" Why am I paying for black bars or a smaller screen? Can we frame 4:3 center crop within 16:9? I'm sure many of us have had this exact dialogue on projects. While filming, we framed 2:40 to be safe, but I applaud the director for taking that risk and sticking with it. Now, 0% of my projects are 4:3, about 80% are 16:9, 24% are 2.35/2.40, and about 1% take that risk and go crazy wide. I think audiences have become acclimated to viewing material on small screens like pads and tablets so size doesn't really matter as TV isn't king anymore. How many of us watch YouTube videos full screen on a home HDTV? If you have an opportunity to take a creative risk and your client is onboard, I say go for it! Thats the very thing that keeps me inspired.

Peter Moretti
05-15-2012, 11:51 PM
Clicked on the link and was excitied to watch... but Sorry Joshua, you lost me at 480P.

BRANDON JAMESON
05-15-2012, 11:59 PM
Uhh, NOPE, "crazy wide" is Cinerama and the giant curved screen designed to watch it on, which was designed to wrap around the audience and create an immersive viewing experience...THIS is just "super sliver" and pointless for the very uses you pointed out in your post, Josh.

The idea of letterbox-ing an image by design is so questionable, think of all the films originally shown on huge wide screens in movie palaces of yesterday and then ruined by "pan and scan" so they would "fit" into the very formats of which you speak.

An image is no "wider" in a letterbox, its just a sad misuse of real estate.

Is this really a "bold choice" or just a failed attempt to make work look more "professional" by falling into forced conventions and pretending our films were made for huge screens while cramming them into small spaces as silly slivers in the wrong format?

As close to 99.99 percent of the "films" shot on this forum will ever see the inside of a cinema much less a Cinerama screen, it seems to be a more clever concept to actually shoot and compose for the very screens you will be screened on..a teeny, tiny Vimeo frame on someone's computer screen or at best, a plasma/led tv, which by their very nature are 16x9.

Brad Webb
05-16-2012, 12:16 AM
I think it looks fantastic. I like bold risks in cinematography, especially for music videos where you have the freedom to play by your own rules.

Now, are you unable to go full 2K or at least HD by choosing these lenses?

BRANDON JAMESON
05-16-2012, 12:35 AM
Josh, the reason you shoot more 16x9 now is because that's the shape of most screens now, NOT because clients got braver.

Andy White
05-16-2012, 05:14 AM
This superwide format is popular with the MTV promo crowd at the moment... it's been trendy for about a year. Most look like they're shot on 2X anamorphics and desqueezed correctly to work inside the 16:9 frame (3:55:1)

Just did a quick search and here are a couple... and these will be decent budgets (so the clients will be getting what they want).

The Saturdays - 30 days to love - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T6trR9nDhU
Pitbull - Give me everything - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPo5wWmKEaI

Personally, I prefer Ana in 2X, but - the client is king :)

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?75418-3-5-1-Anamorphic-on-Epic - here's a recent thread by ianbloom - with some crops (Ana lenses in various modes)... his clients liked the superwide too.

Joel J. Feigenbaum
05-16-2012, 08:13 AM
Great job! Love the editing too. And LOVE the superwide image. Keep it going!

Sidney L. Plaut
05-16-2012, 08:21 AM
Really nice look and great job on the lighting!

Carlos Reyes
05-17-2012, 12:51 PM
Wide screen aspect ratios look great on a 16x9 screen I dont get where you're coming from Brandon, it's and aesthetic and it's one a lot of people like. It doesnt need to play at a theater to look good.

Chris Harless
05-17-2012, 01:32 PM
Awesome Job. Cool idea with people holding and moving the lights in the background Really adds dynamics and depth. At first i thought it was some kind of intellibeam or something of that nature. Very creative.

Joshua Reis
05-17-2012, 10:34 PM
I appreciate the feedback from everyone. I'm hoping the label will release a 1080 master in the near future. I will be sure to locate a copy for my own archival. Its certainly possible to finish in 4k, but I doubt a label will spend the money to do so.

Maxi Claudio
05-17-2012, 10:53 PM
Anamorphic is not just wide screen. a 2x has more info per inch in the vertical than the horizontal. It is an optical quality, not just cropping standard lenses.

Adam Beck
05-17-2012, 11:00 PM
Joshua,

The video rocked! I really like the use of the moving spots in the back ground, it really keep the flow of the images going with the music. I also spotted little short camera movements(quick) with the music. Was that done in camera, or in post? Either way, it's a great effect.

Adam

BRANDON JAMESON
05-17-2012, 11:22 PM
"super wide"?
Why not add some fake film grain and jump the shark completely.

Kacey Baker
05-23-2012, 06:28 AM
Nice work mate!! I love your work and I dare say a clip like this is bubbling under RAY KAY's production values which is a dam good thing, pure pop looking aesthetics.

I wouldn't worry about some of the people who feel the need to question (and poke fun at) your creative judgement, it's uncalled for. They should just congratulate you for brilliant work, I don't get it.

Was wondering if you could give me some tips on my music video, like yours, i was asked to have some rain shots and some factory shots (ignore the awful live dj shots I was cornered by the artists to brand them) so yours is the ideal version of I would have loved mine to look. Mine was shot on a 5d and 2 lights, so the productoin value isnt there like yours, but even ifyou could pm me some tips i would love to hear how I could make mine look more like a real MV instead of a crappy budget job, which in reality is what it is.

Sorry to hi-jack your thread, happy for you to PM me if you have a spare moment?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNf7g4qayY4

George Su
05-29-2012, 11:56 AM
Joshua,
Looks awesome man!

What settings did you use on the TV Logic to properly view the squeezed image?

BRANDON JAMESON
05-29-2012, 12:43 PM
[QUOTE=Kacey Baker;1012953]Nice work mate!! I love your work and I dare say a clip like this is bubbling under RAY KAY's production values which is a dam good thing, pure pop looking aesthetics.

I wouldn't worry about some of the people who feel the need to question (and poke fun at) your creative judgement, it's uncalled for. They should just congratulate you for brilliant work, I don't get it.


Brilliant work?...seriously, BRILIANT WORK.....cummon, man.

Like your video, it's just another "would be" rapper wearing dark glasses indoors and gesturing madly....BRILLIANT..hardly..DERIVATIVE and PREDICTABLE...TOTALLY.

To further clarify my point:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6c362ff00f/directors-commentary-on-the-greatest-rap-video-ever-shot-in-the-history-of-mankind

Vladimir Druts
05-31-2012, 08:26 PM
Looks really good, one of the better music videos Ive seen in a while!

Peter.G
05-31-2012, 09:49 PM
Loos great!!!

Zac C
05-31-2012, 10:53 PM
Brilliant work?...seriously, BRILIANT WORK.....cummon, man.

Like your video, it's just another "would be" rapper wearing dark glasses indoors and gesturing madly....BRILLIANT..hardly..DERIVATIVE and PREDICTABLE...TOTALLY.

To further clarify my point:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6c362ff00f/directors-commentary-on-the-greatest-rap-video-ever-shot-in-the-history-of-mankind


You seem to be dead set on ruining this thread. Why take part in it? Personal attacks on his creative choices aren't something the mods here enjoy to see.

BRANDON JAMESON
05-31-2012, 11:04 PM
Zac, if all you're looking for are positive reviews of your work or anyone else's, ask your Grandma.
Seriously,you may have chosen the wrong line of expression.
By it's very nature, the art of film thrives on critique and discourse,Sir.

Zac C
05-31-2012, 11:08 PM
Zac, if all you're looking for are positive reviews of your work or anyone else's, ask your Grandma.
Seriously,you may have chosen the wrong line of expression.
By it's very nature, the art of film thrives on critique and discourse,Sir.

You must be a blast at parties.

At least be constructive in your criticism, or post your own work so you can get some.