angenieux lens

[Dan McCain]

I think I am going to try to purchase a used angenieux zoom lens. What are the models others are using? Also any idea where I can pick one up?

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

EBAY:innocent:

[fphgrb01]

http://www.visualproducts.com/store04.asp?ID=29&Cat=8&Cat2=20

[pldc]

http://www.visualproducts.com/store04.asp?ID=29&Cat=8&Cat2=20
hi, I will like to know how to use nikon lenses on the red. do they already sell the adapter? and can I also use my old 16 mm angenoux lenses? thank you
pldc

[Teague Kennedy]

hi, I will like to know how to use nikon lenses on the red. do they already sell the adapter? and can I also use my old 16 mm angenoux lenses? thank you
pldc

for manual nikon use red adaptor. 500 bucks. To control nikon with built in motor focus/iris look to birger engineering (much discussion on the lens test threads)
for your old 16mm you may cover 2k some of the time (long lens/high f-stop?) you may vignette when wide.

[laguun]

I think I am going to try to purchase a used angenieux zoom lens. What are the models others are using? Also any idea where I can pick one up?

The "classic" Angenieux is the 25-250mm F3.2.
It exists in several revisisons, which introduced better coating.
T stop changed from 3.9 to 3.2 in these coating generations.
The newer coatings are designated by the letters HR in the model designation.

If you want to see its characteristics just have a look at some classic movies, one of the popular ones shot with the oldest revision of that lens would be Stanley Kubricks Barry Lyndon (T3.9), or have a look at redrelay.net, there are several shots using the lens. The middle generation (T3.7) is visible in the huge part of the 90ties era movies.

The lens is still available at angenieux today, having reached T3.2 meanwhile but it completly sold out, probably due to a certain digital 4K camera.

Typical prices vary from 2.000-4.000 to 10-15.000, depending on the coating.l Sometimes there is a great deal for ~1500, visual products has one on sale IIRC. As with all optical products, especially a zoom lens, be sure to check the state of the lens en detail and do a solid service after buying it (coliomator etc). Also, due to the massive weight and size of the lens, you should plan in a support system.

Compared to the state of the art zooms from angenieux today, lets take the 24-290 Optimo, the cons of the 25-250 are: the lens breathes more, zoom range is ~20% less, you loose betwenn 0.5 and 1 stop and should also prefer to stop it even further down if you want maximum sharpness.

Our tests with red including Arri masterprimes and Zeiss ss showed that the classic Angenieux keep up well - for pure pristine 4K however i would stop them down, for 2K its less problematic.

Also consider, besides Angenieux, the vintage cooke zooms. A, and be warned, OSX vs. Windows discussions are nothing compared to a typical cooke vs. angenieux discussion :) I personally like the characteristics of the angenieux lenses very much, and we own a good selectiom of them, from pretty expensive 38.000€ brandnew HD-Zooms to old 16mm lenses.

Once we get our 2 "march 2008" reds (both serials in the 900ers), i will gladly post sample footage.

So far, as we have to rent out our reds since october 2007, we only used the camera on commercial shots and pretty expensive tests for distributors, therefore i have, due to copyrights restrictions, no hi-res images i could share.