Build 14... ready?

[Jannard]

Build 14 is almost ready for you. We are anxious to deliver a 2nd Christmas to our customers.

What is NOT in Build 14. The "magic" image. That is Build 15. So is multiple simultaneous outputs.

But don't discount Build 14 as anything but "Landmark". I won't sleep the night we put it out waiting for the responses...

Just so you know... on a one to ten, Build 14 is a 14... and Build 15 is a 15.

Jim

[Jason Ing]

And the inevitable question. ETA for build 15? I love "magic" :)

[found the answer from Jim in another thread: "April 1st should be good for Build 15. No guarantees as usual..."]

[Luke Boyce]

Is that almost as in:

"Hold on, let me get that for you in a couple hours"

or

"Hold on, let me get that for you in a couple days"

Cause seriously...you're killing me here.

[Jannard]

Anticipation is 90% the joy of life...

Jim

[Brook Willard]

Should I spend the night refreshing red.com or just get back to work?

[Blair S. Paulsen]

Assuming its possible to go back to #13, why not put #14 out there as a beta build? If we can't break it then you can certify it as a release build in a week or two. Just sayin'

[Jason Ing]

Keep pressing that F5 key, Brook! Jim is a professional tease.

[Jannard]

I think we are a day away... or so.

Two customers have the beta... and have the same reaction as I do.

Just need to finish bug patrol...

Jim

[Elizabeth Lowrey]

Anticipation is 90% the joy of life...

Jim

Sounds like Anthony Hopkins as C.S. Lewis in one of my favorite films, Shadowlands:

"The delight that never fades, the bliss that is eternal is only yours when what you want most is just out of reach."

[Frank Weeks]

It just keeps getting better

Thank Jim...

[Brook Willard]

Two customers have the beta... and have the same reaction as I do.

I say we make it three... *cough* :)

[Stacey Spears]

Sounds like Anthony Hopkins as C.S. Lewis in one of my favorite films, Shadowlands:

And here I was thinking it was more like Neil Patrick Harris, as Barney, in my favorite sitcom, How I met Your Mother:

It's gonna be legen... wait for it... dary!

[Bing Bailey]

so sean and offhollywood have the beta build 14. maybe we can break their arms so they'll tell us :)

[Jason Ing]

The improvements to Red are coming so quickly and in significant bounds, I stopped reading Red "test" and "technical" threads. I love learning... but not if it's out-of-date and no longer applicable. I'll browse until April when I finally get my camera... and Red is at NAB.

[Wes Printz]

Just so you know... on a one to ten, Build 14 is a 14... and Build 15 is a 15.

Jim

Does that also mean that Build 16 is a 16... and Build 17 is a 17?

[Jannard]

Builds after 15 will be small by comparison. I just got word that we will post Beta Build 14 tomorrow night.

Jim

[Nathan Buxton]

I hope you will be as personally excited about Build 34 and 35. :D Keep up the good work.

[Poi Boy]

Can I be one of the two that get 15 ?
Aloha
-A
Doesn't hurt to ask !

[Shawn Nelson]

so sean and offhollywood have the beta build 14. maybe we can break their arms so they'll tell us :)

It's Shawn...and yes...it is a fun build :-). I already posted footage that I got using it.

[Alexis Vanier]

I'm just wondering. Is tommorow night today night as in February Wednesday the 6th of 2008 or 'tommorow' night as in February Thursday the 7th of 2008? It's quite confusing since we're within minutes posting across two days...

[Jannard]

Wed. the 6th... night. Less than 24 hours.

Jim

[Zach Hilton]

I don't even have my camera yet and I'm excited!

[Alexis Vanier]

Yay ! Horray for Jim and Co. for firmware release !

[Jim Hoffman]

You're killing me... You're just putting it in the middle of the room and saying...not 'til tomorrow.... ahhhhhh ... I can't wait.

you seem to have a problem (in the good way) with OVER-promising (as in offering more than what we would expect) AND OVER-delivering.

Cool!

[Finner]

Wed. the 6th... night. Less than 24 hours.

Jim

Before everyone gets to excited take a good look at Jims signature line below.


"Everything in life changes... including our camera specs and delivery dates..."

From what I have seen red consistantly delivers with they say they will it's just the dates that are not quite right. Thats okay though I'm excited because RED #993 should be in my hands sometime in September 2007, by the way whats the date today?

Wolf has been called a few too many times for me. I am very excited to see and hear about all build 14 and 15 have to offer when they do indeed come out.

Please don't take this as a big Jab red team. Heck I am just finishing up post production for a corporate training video I produced/directed that I told the client would be finished before Christmas (ha). Just the nature of it all.

[Alexander Nikishin]

Finner, you sound like an angry child. :bleh:

Patience man, patience.

[Luke Boyce]

Finner,
To be fair, Red had already said a couple weeks ago that Build 14 would come on February 1st, so having it come on February 6th is pretty much an accurate delay. The delivery date has ALREADY changed, no need to put that out there.

[Jannard]

Our customers have the right to point out (correctly) that we have missed target dates. And we have the right to point out that they have always been "target" dates because we are new at this. My signature clearly points out that dates are somewhat uncertain. We are trying to do better at making our targets and deliver the capabilities we promised. But we are still rookies...

Jim

[Zakaree Sandberg]

feb 6 huh... my birthday!
but no camera yet:(

[Rick Darge]

Yes! Tomorrow is my baby's 1 week birthday! My, they grow up fast!

[Finner]

I would far more have a camera and system that is "right" then just "right now". I totally understand things being late and it really does not bother me one little bit. I just no longer get excited when I hear any dates for anything red and instead look at it as that will be great when it happens sometime around that date.

I respect that doing it well comes way before doing it fast. Heck I bet you would very much like to have 4,000 cameras shipped by now as the red bank account would be looking a lot different then it currently does. It's nice to see you are putting quality and the future of red owners ahead of personal $ gains.

[Poi Boy]

It's good to be the King !
-A

[Gavin Greenwalt]

Something tells me though that if you set a deliverable 24 hours in the future, you're already done and just need to make a nicely named zip file.

It takes a pretty large unforeseen bug to delay a release less than 24 hours from delivery.

[Jannard]

Build 14 has been tested quite a bit. It is in the hands of a few beta testers and we have worked it out pretty well. As usual, we will post it in Beta-build form. But it is solid. Internally, we are now testing Build 15. That should give you some idea that we are finally getting ahead of the game a bit.

Both builds matter.

Jim

[Corrado Silveri]

Jim, I'm thrilled (as usual).

And I'm really happy for you and all your team.
Seems that all the thing start running smooth and glide...

Your dream it's not over, but you can start sleep a little more comfortable, don't you?

Your, sincerely,
Elcurado.

[Ezikiel Nenji]

Sounds like Anthony Hopkins as C.S. Lewis in one of my favorite films, Shadowlands:

"The delight that never fades, the bliss that is eternal is only yours when what you want most is just out of reach."

Or Charles Dance's American wife in "Shadowlands play..." Advice to the nurse in love.
"Give him enough to want more. Then dont give him anything until he signs up."


The future is bright!!!!! The future is RED.

[Fredrik Harreschou]

Or Charles Dance's American wife in "Shadowlands play..." Advice to the nurse in love.
"Give him enough to want more. Then dont give him anything until he signs up."


The future is bright!!!!! The future is RED.

- or to paraphrase John Lennon:
"Life is what happens to you while you're waiting for new builds..."

[Mark L. Pederson]

Build 14 has been tested quite a bit. It is in the hands of a few beta testers and we have worked it out pretty well. As usual, we will post it in Beta-build form. But it is solid. Internally, we are now testing Build 15. That should give you some idea that we are finally getting ahead of the game a bit.

Both builds matter.

Jim

When we got the Build 14 alpha we didn't know what was in there, as it came before the list of features or a revised manual.

As soon as I got into the menu ... I said (out loud) "WTF!!"

Then I thought about out the implications, and I got really excited, really fast.

I can't "spill the beans", but what I can tell you is ... wait to you shoot a scene with "extreme detail" with this build !!

Jim talks about 14 and 15 as "landmark" builds - and what I can sincerely say to that, having tested MANY, MANY builds ... is that 14 really hits home how this camera will never be done. It really can just keep getting better.

And ... (I might get my legs broken for this) .... if you think Build 14 is a Christmas present ... wait till they release RedAert & RedCine with Graeme's a new demosiac ... that is like a glass of fine champagne on New Years Eve ...

[Rick Darge]

Holy crap Mark. I didn't think I could get more excited. It's like getting a whole new camera again..

Red, do we know when the new demosiac is happening? I have 13,000 frames of 4k converting right now, telling me its going to take 8 hours. I could really use those extra 4 hours right about now!

Thanks for rocking Jim. I look forward to firing this up tomorrow night..

[Steve Sherrick]

Uh oh Mark, I hear the Red copters flying over New York city right now. Is that glass at Offhollywood bulletproof?

Steve

[Karl H]

There are 2 significant new features in bulid 14

1) Loading music while your Red boots. Take your pick from five 90 second midi files.

2) a 320 x 240 greyscale 'babe' for the rear LCD.

[Ramesh Jai]

Anticipation is 90% the joy of life...

Jim
Nothing beats anticipation. In fact I get a bit upset if I receive my new 'toy' a bit earlier than expected.

[Bing Bailey]

Vive la Redolution :)

[albert rudnicki]

When we got the Build 14 alpha we didn't know what was in there, as it came before the list of features or a revised manual.

As soon as I got into the menu ... I said (out loud) "WTF!!"

Then I thought about out the implications, and I got really excited, really fast.

I can't "spill the beans", but what I can tell you is ... wait to you shoot a scene with "extreme detail" with this build !!

Jim talks about 14 and 15 as "landmark" builds - and what I can sincerely say to that, having tested MANY, MANY builds ... is that 14 really hits home how this camera will never be done. It really can just keep getting better.

And ... (I might get my legs broken for this) .... if you think Build 14 is a Christmas present ... wait till they release RedAert & RedCine with Graeme's a new demosiac ... that is like a glass of fine champagne on New Years Eve ...

Man, it smells like a variable bitrates !

[McDiver]

That's what I'm hoping for . . . quietly of course :).

[Paul Hazlett]

When we got the Build 14 alpha we didn't know what was in there, as it came before the list of features or a revised manual.

As soon as I got into the menu ... I said (out loud) "WTF!!"

Then I thought about out the implications, and I got really excited, really fast.

I can't "spill the beans", but what I can tell you is ... wait to you shoot a scene with "extreme detail" with this build !!

Jim talks about 14 and 15 as "landmark" builds - and what I can sincerely say to that, having tested MANY, MANY builds ... is that 14 really hits home how this camera will never be done. It really can just keep getting better.

And ... (I might get my legs broken for this) .... if you think Build 14 is a Christmas present ... wait till they release RedAert & RedCine with Graeme's a new demosiac ... that is like a glass of fine champagne on New Years Eve ...

Mark,

I will send flowers, just tell me what hospital they put you in.

Extreme detail has to with higher bit rates I am s'spoussin, as an option you can capture more bits more detail, less filmy would be a guess.
Filmic with high detail is worthy of landmark.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Mark,

I will send flowers, just tell me what hospital they put you in.

Extreme detail has to with higher bit rates I am s'spoussin, as an option you can capture more bits more detail, less filmy would be a guess.
Filmic with high detail is worthy of landmark.

Stop all your s'spoussin !

Yes, it is filmic. Build 14 shoots high contrast black and white.

Now ... I have really said too much ...

[number6]

Quick! Get it out to Soderbergh!

[Ace]

Stop all your s'spoussin !

Yes, it is filmic. Build 14 shoots high contrast black and white.

Now ... I have really said too much ...

I dont get it.. does this not follow the RAW idea? Or does it do some channel splitting in the camera to throw out the red or green channels and record one channel? Interesting...

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

wait to you shoot a scene with "extreme detail" with this build !!

wait till they release RedAert & RedCine with Graeme's a new demosiac ... that is like a glass of fine champagne on New Years Eve ...

woow :love: :w00t: :waaa:
it is really something great coming .today

[Michael Hastings]

Build 14 has been tested quite a bit. It is in the hands of a few beta testers and we have worked it out pretty well. As usual, we will post it in Beta-build form. But it is solid. Internally, we are now testing Build 15. That should give you some idea that we are finally getting ahead of the game a bit.

Both builds matter.

Jim

We are scheduled to shoot the shuttle launch tomorrow. Liftoff is scheduled for 2:45 p.m..

Since the release is scheduled to be posted at midnight is there any chance you could reveal the details. This will be our first shoot with RED #206 so using 12, 13, or 14 doesn't matter in terms of older footage or whatever. But if there are quality or feature improvements then obviously that would be a benefit.

The marketing suspense is fun, but some of us have to make real world production decisions. So already known information about a build to be released in 12 hours would be nice support for paid up customers.

[R. Gonzales]

Hey AquaVideoRed206,

Why don't you call Red directly? They might be able to answer your questions since it's not public.

Method

[SF Geek]

Just checking. In build 15 you said multiple outputs, does that mean everything will be hot: SDI1, SDI2, 720P, HDMI, viewfinder, and EVF?

[Brent J. Craig]

We are scheduled to shoot the shuttle launch tomorrow. Liftoff is scheduled for 2:45 p.m..

Would you shoot ANY project with something that had only been out for 14 hours?!?

I think you already know the answer.

I suspect you can't ask NASA for a second take.

[Mark L. Pederson]

Liftoff is scheduled for 2:45 p.m..

I'll be impressed if it lifts off before 4:00pm.

[Michael Hastings]

Would you shoot ANY project with something that had only been out for 14 hours?!?

I think you already know the answer.

I suspect you can't ask NASA for a second take.


Build 14 has been tested quite a bit. It is in the hands of a few beta testers and we have worked it out pretty well. As usual, we will post it in Beta-build form. But it is solid.

Jim

It is not a paid/contract shoot. It is primarily to get some stock footage and RED experience and exposure and showcase the camera's capability. Hence the desire to get the best quality available. If variable bit rate or other improvements - as has been suggested here - are available we would like to use them.


Hey AquaVideoRed206,

Why don't you call Red directly? They might be able to answer your questions since it's not public.

Method

Tried that, the person that answered the support line didn't even know about Jim's post that it would be released this evening. (He said it was scheduled for later this week and when I mentioned Jim's post he said "Oh, you guys know more than we do.") Finally got through to Brent, but he said he couldn't say any more, so posted here.

The decision on whether or not to risk using a beta build is mine. Jim says it is solid - and knowing that, combined with the caveats mentioned, means that if there are any picture improvements I will try it. Having a few extra hours to play with it and backtrack to 12 or 13 if necessary would be appreciated.

Holding back the details mere hours before the release is not about being responsible to the software, it is about a tease - and I get that to some extent, but this isn't a new video game, it is a $20,000 professional tool and it is a bit annoying.

[Shawn Nelson]

For important shoots, you should never use the Beta builds, unless you yourself have tested them carefully for your needs.

[Michael Hastings]

For important shoots, you should never use the Beta builds, unless you yourself have tested them carefully for your needs.

What about saying it is a test/demonstration shoot isn't clear?


It is not a paid/contract shoot. It is primarily to get some stock footage and RED experience and exposure and showcase the camera's capability. Hence the desire to get the best quality available. If variable bit rate or other improvements - as has been suggested here - are available we would like to use them.

The decision on whether or not to risk using a beta build is mine. Jim says it is solid - and knowing that, combined with the caveats mentioned, means that if there are any picture improvements I will try it. Having a few extra hours to play with it and backtrack to 12 or 13 if necessary would be appreciated.

Holding back the details mere hours before the release is not about being responsible to the software, it is about a tease - and I get that to some extent, but this isn't a new video game, it is a $20,000 professional tool and it is a bit annoying.

[Dane Brehm]

So is the Shuttle shoot on a 400mm-600mm beheamouth? I'd be nice if 14 was out before Feb 26th.

They really know how to hold the carrot in front of our faces.....I can't wait to test :devil:

[Justin Kirchhoff]

Ok, I'm getting antsy....let's see this build 14!

[Kevin Lang]

We are scheduled to shoot the shuttle launch tomorrow. Liftoff is scheduled for 2:45 p.m..

Since the release is scheduled to be posted at midnight is there any chance you could reveal the details. This will be our first shoot with RED #206 so using 12, 13, or 14 doesn't matter in terms of older footage or whatever. But if there are quality or feature improvements then obviously that would be a benefit.

The marketing suspense is fun, but some of us have to make real world production decisions. So already known information about a build to be released in 12 hours would be nice support for paid up customers.

Hey where are you going to be at I am shooting the launch for NBC. I would love to meet up with you out there.

I hear you too about the marketing thing it is getting really old. Why tease it if it is such a secret thing then keep it that way, just release it when its ready.

[ChristopherKenworthy]

I had a dream last night that Build 14 has a blur-free digital image stabilizer. Looking forward to seeing what's actually on offer.

[Brent J. Craig]

I had a dream last night that Build 14 has a blur-free digital image stabilizer. Looking forward to seeing what's actually on offer.

Hmmmm - interesting. With that 4.5k 'look around' area you could do something like that, given enough processing power. Does anyone know if digital stabilization simply uses image processing or if it requires accelerometers to know how the camera is moving?

[Kevin Lang]

Build 14 brings back Jesus!

[noclip]

I hear you too about the marketing thing it is getting really old. Why tease it if it is such a secret thing then keep it that way, just release it when its ready.

That's what marketing is. Look at the success Apple has had with this strategy.

[Kevin Lang]

That's what marketing is. Look at the success Apple has had with this strategy.

I was going to say apples and oranges, but I guess that would not apply here it would seem Red is looking to market to consumers. So you are 100% right!

[Jannard]

OK... we'll stop talking.

Jim

[Kevin Lang]

OK... we'll stop talking.

Jim

No Jim, talking is good, teasing is bad:tongue:

[Shawn Bannon]

lets keep talking. your posts have made me very excited for build 14 and 15.

[Jannard]

No Jim, talking is good, teasing is bad:tongue:

If I have to start paying attention to what I'm saying... I need to retire.

If the "hype" is irritating to you, I suggest you block me. Sorry, that's just me.

Jim

[Jannard]

oops... here it comes!

Jim

[Brent@RED]

BUILD 14 BETA: Posted on www.red.com support. New Ops Guide included in download.

BC

[noclip]

Heh, it would appear I beat Jim (http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8560) to announcing his own revolution by a minute.

[Jannard]

I guess it is no longer a "tease"...

Jim

[Jay A. Kelley]

I'm sure you'll find something else...

:)

Jay

[wshultz]

OK then spill the beans to the rest of us. What all is in this build?!

[Brian Broz]

Inquiring minds want to know!
Oh wait.....
Significant changes since Build 13.

Audio playback on camera (headphone, mini-XLR and HDMI)
Addition of 3K and 3K 2:1 record modes.
Addition of RECODE 36 Compression Quality Setting.
Addition of full size _F QuickTime Reference Movie.
Addition of Relative Shutter Speed control.
Addition of AUTO fan mode (SILENT in record, otherwise VARIABLE)
Enhancement of Syncro Shutter Speed adjustment control.
Enhancement of Frame Rate Ramping control.
Enhancement of Histograms to logarithmic based display.
Enhancement of Headphone volume controls.
Temporary removal of +48V Phantom Power mode

[thomas273]

just downloaded the build and placed the upgrade folder on my CF card. Put it into the camera and powered up.

Nothing.... nada....

no "New Firmware" message came up..
it just boot up in normal mode.

[Brent@RED]

just downloaded the build and placed the upgrade folder on my CF card. Put it into the camera and powered up.

Nothing.... nada....

no "New Firmware" message came up..
it just boot up in normal mode.

Did you format your CF card first? Did you go to SYSTEM > SETUP > MAINTENANCE > UPDATE SOFTWARE?

BC

[Michael Hastings]

If I have to start paying attention to what I'm saying... I need to retire.

If the "hype" is irritating to you, I suggest you block me. Sorry, that's just me.

Jim

Don't pay attention to what you say. If I/we get crabby, it is here and gone. We still love you and your camera.

Jim:


3K is a very interesting addition to the lineup. You can shoot 3K, 60fps at 36MB/sec to CF or RED Drives.

This is pretty cool stuff.

Jim


3k is cropped.. a 3k sensor extraction.
Resolution for 3k 2:1 is 3072x1536, and 3k 16:9 is 3072x1728.


So is the Shuttle shoot on a 400mm-600mm beheamouth? I'd be nice if 14 was out before Feb 26th.


Testing Canon EOS mount. I have a Canon 70-200 2.8L IS and a manual Zeiss 300mm F4 Contax/Yashica mount with a C/Y to EOS adapter.

So should I try 3K - 60 fps?

It would make the 300 more like a 400.

This is my first shoot with my camera, since Erik at Birger has had it since the day after I got #206 a few weeks ago - so I don't even know what our top frame rate is for 4K - is it still just 24fps or do we have 30?

As I said before, this isn't a paid shoot, so we are willing to be a little bit experimental.

[thomas273]

Yes I formated it before I copied the folder over.
it's supposed to detect it automatically.
but I also did it thru the system menu and it says
"No software update is available on your system."

anyone else have this problem?
???

[Jeff Kilgroe]

So should I try 3K - 60 fps?

It would make the 300 more like a 400.

Yes, like having a longer lens, but at a lower resolution and narrower FOV.

4K still gives you the most image to work with to crop or scale in post. OTOH, that 3K sure looks real nice too, still very high rez. Oh, and 60fps... 60fps But that's 2:1 aspect, not sure you want to shoot it 2:1 :)

[thomas273]

ok I got it... you have to unzip the Upgrade.zip file twice.
after unzipping the first time you'll have another Upgrade.zip file along with two other files, a pdf doc and a txt doc.

you have to unzip the Upgrade.zip the second time and drag over the Upgrade folder with the su.tar file inside. This is the folder which is required at the root of the CF card or hard drive.

;-)

[thomas273]

some questions I have about the update b14:

it states in the readme.txt file of the known restrictions.
Does anyone know if these are only new restrictions for build 14?
do some of these features work fine in build 13?
for instance 4k files crashing Quicktime - did this ever work?


--------------------------
Known firmware restrictions for Build 14, RED ONE v2.0.2

* Audio playback in RED-ALERT and RED-CINE is not enabled.
* Changing resolutions with VARISPEED enabled causes image tearing
* Look File menu in place but not enabled for file SAVE / RECALL
* 4K 16:9 recording not yet supported by RED ALERT or by QuickTime Player.
* 4K _F, _H, _M and _P QuickTimes created by camera may crash QuickTime Player.
* RED-LCD plus Preview HD-SDI monitor output simultaneously active not supported.
* RED-EVF, RED-LCD, Preview HD-SDI, HDMI simultaneously active not yet supported.
* Dual Link HD-SDI outputs always replicate 720p PREVIEW or PLAYBACK HD-SDI signal.
* Audio and Timecode not present in HD-SDI outputs.
* Use meter reports in minutes rather than hours.
-------------------


it would be nice to know what issues were known and fixed in each build not only changes.
most of the listings assume you know what the original problem was and is now fixed or is it a new working feature?

[Brent@RED]

ok I got it... you have to unzip the Upgrade.zip file twice.
after unzipping the first time you'll have another Upgrade.zip file along with two other files, a pdf doc and a txt doc.

you have to unzip the Upgrade.zip the second time and drag over the Upgrade folder with the su.tar file inside. This is the folder which is required at the root of the CF card or hard drive.

;-)

You are right, too many zips. Fixed so you have the entire upgrade package as a zip file and it has no further embedded zip files...

B C

[Greg M]

Brent,
No mention of 3K 16:9 support in QT...is 3k 16:9 supported in QT?

[Michael Hastings]

Did you format your CF card first? Did you go to SYSTEM > SETUP > MAINTENANCE > UPDATE SOFTWARE?

BC

Can we install from an SD card? Or does it have to be CF?

If CF can it be an old small one?

[Sean R.]

Brent,
No mention of 3K 16:9 support in QT...is 3k 16:9 supported in QT?

I just shot 3K 16:9 and it played back just fine in QT Greg.

[Brent J. Craig]

... Threeeeeeee Kaaaay

[Greg M]

I just shot 3K 16:9 and it played back just fine in QT Greg.

excellent, thanks

cameras at the office or I would have tried myself

[Jannard]

excellent, thanks

cameras at the office or I would have tried myself

You mean you don't SLEEP with it?

Jim

[Paris Remillard]

You mean you don't SLEEP with it?

Jim

Well, you don't want to damage the OLPF.....oh....you mean SLEEP sleep....nevermind

[Greg M]

You mean you don't SLEEP with it?

Jim

sorry Jim, the wife kicked her out of my bed.

[Bing Bailey]

you three need relationship counselling :) LOL

[Deanan]

Well, you don't want to damage the OLPF.....oh....you mean SLEEP sleep....nevermind

once you go red, you never go back. :)

[vincelucero]

Don't forget the camera condom... :whistling:

[Rob Lohman]

3K works fine in all our post production software. Audio, 4K 16:9 and the new _F QuickTime wrapper are not yet supported.

[Mike Devlin]

I just shot 3K 16:9 and it played back just fine in QT Greg.

Does 3K 16:9 support 60fps?

[laguun]

Does 3K 16:9 support 60fps?

3K supports 60p.

[McDiver]

Anyone know what the RECODE 36 Compression Quality Setting is?

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

i think build 14 it was designed to give 3 REDS IN a ONE :love:

[Michael Morlan]

Anyone know what the RECODE 36 Compression Quality Setting is?

I presume:

RedCode 28 = 27.5MB/sec & 28MB/sec peak

RedCode 36 = ~35MB/sec & 36MB/sec peak

Michael

[Deanan]

It's not tied to MB/s. It's based on a quality level that is loosely related
to MB/s for 4k 2:1 @ 24fps @ 28 or 36MB/s.

Think of it as a compression quality setting.

[BASSAM MSSALATIE]

It's not tied to MB/s. It's based on a quality level that is loosely related
to MB/s for 4k 2:1 @ 24fps @ 28 or 36MB/s.

Think of it as a compression quality setting.

i think :wacko: it is something which is picture quality calculated through within average compression around 28 or 36 math as standard :waaa: ?

[Daniel García]

...
Addition of Relative Shutter Speed control.
...
Enhancement of Syncro Shutter Speed adjustment control.
Enhancement of Frame Rate Ramping control.
Enhancement of Histograms to logarithmic based display.
[/COLOR][/I][/B]

Anyone care to elaborate on these?
Specially on the shutter related ones.
From the names one can try to imagine what these feature do, but what do I want them for? In which way do they differ from the old ways(pre-14)?
Do any of them affect the rolling shutter skew? (sounds likely)

Also interested on the histograms... does this mean they are calculated from the raw data and not from the rgb preview pixels? Or does it have something to do with the difference between log/perceptual and linear scales?

Hope someone can answer some of these.