Compatibility with DV Rack or the like?

[JD Holloway]

I'm interested in knowing how well software like DV Rack HD or similar will work with this camera. I cant remember if RED had a 1394 port, and if it did, how well it would work for off-board field engineering.

Thanks in advance

J.

[jbeale]

Most of the functionality that DV rack provides depends on getting the full image raster data via DV over firewire. I don't recall Red supporting DV output but maybe you could get there using a converter box that downconverts HD-SDI to DV (is there such a thing)?

[JD Holloway]

Serious Magic have a new offering that captures DVC PRO HD, via fire wire I believe.

[Brook Willard]

"They" are not RED, just to prevent confusion.

As for your original question, I very much doubt it. This camera has no SD/DV output of any kind. HD-SDI is as low as you go.

Remember that the camera has all sorts of onboard monitors.

[Chris Kenny]

The Mac products ScopeBox (http://www.scopebox.com/) and VeeScope (http://www.dvdxdv.com/NewFolderLookSite/VeeScope/Products/VeescopeLive.overview.htm") can monitor from any QuickTime input source, which should include HD-SDI capture cards. Though this would be more useful for studio use, as it's a little hard to get HD-SDI into a laptop.

[JD Holloway]

I just did a search (should have done this before posting), and Blair Paulsen and co. had a discussion about this earlier. Seems that 1394 is available on Red Drive for download, but not for monitoring.

Blair Paulsen also proposed a box for HD-SDI to PCIe for capture and possible engineering.

Interesting.

[Anders Holck]

It's just that, when you can get a 27 MB/s 4k stream direct to a <$1000 harddrive out of the box, why would you bother with a laptop?

[Chris Kenny]

It's just that, when you can get a 27 MB/s 4k stream direct to a <$1000 harddrive out of the box, why would you bother with a laptop?

Not for recording, but for monitoring. While Red has said there will be some scopes on the camera, it's pretty doubtful they'll match the set in a product like ScopeBox.

[Roxco]

Not for recording, but for monitoring. While Red has said there will be some scopes on the camera, it's pretty doubtful they'll match the set in a product like ScopeBox.

Earlier there were some threads on reading RED histograms and how that is better than reading scopes which are really designed to see how well the video signal can get squished onto a small signal pipe.

I guess in the new workfows, the need for scopes is for montoring how well the offline signal matches the Redcode RAW, but again the Colorist can play with RAW and so the histogram may be the better indicator of what can be done to or with the image.

Teaching This Old Dog New Tricks,

Rosco

[Evin Grant]

Not for recording, but for monitoring. While Red has said there will be some scopes on the camera, it's pretty doubtful they'll match the set in a product like ScopeBox.


I have a feeling you may be surprised!:w00t:

[Chris Kenny]

Yeah, I suppose if you're shooting RAW, feeding RGB into your scopes might be of marginal utility.

[JD Holloway]

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