RED Pricing...

[Jannard]

We will post the price list on www.red.com about 5pm PST today. All reservation holders from 1-1460 will receive a one time "reservation allowance" to be used when purchasing accessories for the RED ONE camera. This "allowance" amount will be deducted from the total purchased package price.

Jim

[Rick Darge]

Woooo-"F*#^ing"-hoooo !

Thank you so much

[Jared VanLeuven]

Sounds fair. Great news, thanks Jim.

[Pol Turrents]

F5 will be our friend today xD

[CVB]

Very nice. Don't forget to include pricing for red branded leather jackets... those will sell like hotcakes.

[Mediamass]

Is this in addition to the already included accessories like the LCD, or does the credit replace it?

[PaulClements]

I've been working too long today, not sure I follow the whole allowance thing entirely will this be explained more come 5pm?

[PaulClements]

Well duh, of course it will be I need to sleep... shame I'll be up till about 5 am working

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

And is it correct that PST is now on daylight savings time, meaning the prices is to be announced in less than an hour? (anyone from the Pacific time zone)

[Chris Gearhart]

Fun and goodness. Thanks Jim. Will the one time amount be posted at Red.com for all to turn green over? Or will we see it here?

[Emanuel A.]

Thanks for the update, Jim.

BTW, the hour changed this weekend at the United States, right?

By now, what time is it? (in order to check with the GMT)

EDIT -- Yeah, I mean PST 'cause you have a lot of them... :)

[Zach Hilton]

You have about 49 minutes until go time.

[Ken K]

It's about 4:10 PM right now. Time.gov also has the correct time for the Pacific time zone.

[Jannard]

Fun and goodness. Thanks Jim. Will the one time amount be posted at Red.com for all to turn green over? Or will we see it here?

We will email the reservation holders the amount... and I'll post it here (but not on www.red.com). No point in rubbing it in...

Jim

[Emanuel A.]

Thanks guys. :-)

[Hrvoje Simic]

We will use that allowance well.

Thank you very much.

[Daniel Reichenbach]

Good, very good. Have many projects waiting for 4K. Thank you REDteam

[dewman]

Thanks, Jim! I can't wait to see the documentary on RED, it will set a new precedence on how to develop and deliver a revolutionary product! Hopefully more companies will adopt a VOC approach!

[Ivan G]

It's about a half hour drive to get home from work. I guess I'll just have to stick around and see what happens. Well worth it...

[Manfred Lopez]

Is it just me or did the Reduser red one forum just almost crash? I got several "database errors" and other strange pages pop up as I was refreshing.

[Nick Shaw]

Doing a shoot on Monday with an Arri D-20. Damn I wish I had my RED! Be nice to take a look at the competition though.

Waiting with baited breath for the pricing announcement…

[Adrian T.]

I've experienced the same errors. I guess the forum can't withstand that many concurrent users.

[Davokornflake]

I got that about 5 hours ago. I was convinced after waiting for 8 hours I'd missed all the action:)

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

Same problems here, reduser is just a few users away from a new record...

[Adrian Correia]

Regarding the errors...I actually thought that Jarred just had a real sick sense of humor

[Emanuel A.]

Jim, I'm not sure what's the email you have there also 'cause that's not me who handled the task. How can I add a new email address for this purpose?

[Jannard]

I'll post the amount here right after 5pm. You won't need the email to use the allowance.

Jim

[Emanuel A.]

Thanks Jim!

E. :-)

[CVB]

Regarding the errors...I actually thought that Jarred just had a real sick sense of humor

I don't think its Jarred's sense of humor... its just Jim's avatar loading up.

[Jason Francois]

Damn, an allowance without chores, not a bad deal at all. Sounds wonderful!!!!

[Manfred Lopez]

I don't think its Jarred's sense of humor... its just Jim's avatar loading up.

Ha, that is funny. I wonder if after we buy the red camera we´ll get to have one as big... "I see that your swartz is as big as mine!"

[Michael Ragen]

4k avatars for camera owners!

[Mike the beginner]

Are Red Lenses an accessory? Would be great to get a reservation allowance on the two red lenses and the other items:greedy:

Mike the beginner

[Jannard]

You can use the one time allowance on any accessories you want.

Jim

[Manfred Lopez]

So, now with 6 min to go, will the pricing apear first on the red website, then here? Or will it be simultaneous. I just want to know where to concentrate my refresh action.

[Jaime Vallés]

Wow, 628 viewers online right now. Wonder why?

The longest 7 minutes of my recent life...

[Jeremy Torrie]

Is this f---ing guy cool or what? Must be all right to have this dude as a boss.

[Sam Druckerman]

We will post the price list on www.red.com about 5pm PST today. All reservation holders from 1-1460 will receive a one time "reservation allowance" to be used when purchasing accessories for the RED ONE camera. This "allowance" amount will be deducted from the total purchased package price.

Jim

Before we know what the amount is.......

I want to say Thanks Jim, for Everything.

This gesture of a "reservation allowance" is just another in what has become a series of terrific surprises.

First you share your dream, then time and now money with all of us....

Cheers

[Manfred Lopez]

3 minutes to go...

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

It´s time...

[Paul Hazlett]

allright here is my guess.

VF..1795
cage..500
red drive 2000
lcd...400

[Ivan G]

my computer froze!!!

[Manfred Lopez]

Arrrrgggghhhh!!!!!!!! The forum is crashing again!!!!!!

[Joel Kaye]

My guess is Jim's computer froze too. 5:02.

[Manfred Lopez]

Okay... IT IS TIME!... Let me at her...

[Nikolai Vavilov]

Jim, what about numbers over 1460? we're out of the game with #1465 and 1466?

[Mike Harrington]

hurry....I have to use the toilet.....:pinch:

[Manfred Lopez]

We have a Major MELTDOWN! Both this forum and the Red.com sites are spitting blood.

[Joel Kaye]

I feel like I'm at a Van Halen concert and the lights have gone down but there's no band yet.

[Eirik Tyrihjel]

I am having no problems with red.com website, except that there is nothing new yet....

reduser.net is another story...

Owwwww, the waiting........

Maybe it´s time we start recommending a good reliable ftp application to the good people at red...

[Ivan G]

Each reservation holder #1-1475 will receive a one time allowance of $2500. This amount will be deducted from the total invoice for RED ONE camera and accessories on the initial order. $2500 will apply to each serial number for those that have multiple reservations.

For example, if you buy a RED ONE for $17,500 and say $6,500 worth of accessories... the total would be $24,000 minus $2,500 = $21,500.

Thanks to all for your support. We will see you at NAB.

Jim

[Manfred Lopez]

Why can´t they just announce the list on the evening news. That way millions of people could find out at once without melting down this forum.

[Damien Molineaux]

my guess

EVF 2'500
batteries 250
LCD 1'000
nikon mount 400
red drive 950
red rails 750
red cage 450

[Billy Summers]

maybe an order of most/all the accessories totals the 6500 that Jim mentioned earlier

[Anders Holck]

http://red.com/pricelist.htm

[Steve Gibby]

Indeed...it's online now at the link Anders posted. It seriously rocks!

[Martin Drew]

Okay. So do I read it correctly that the bare camera body + PL mount + cables is what you get for $17500 now. No Battery, No LCD. They are both extra. Is that true for reservation holders too?

M

[LighthouseMEdia]

Hmm some thing are cheaper than I figured and some are definitly higher than I figured the $2,500 allowance will make a BIG difference, in making this easier.

[Don Woods]

Not Bad Not bad... Good Work Jim the only suprise was a CANON MOUNT what what what. That is good news to hear... RAW port came out to be a little more then I thought but I do think its well worth the money.. Very happy now its time to get the bean counters together and figure out the packages...

[LighthouseMEdia]

Same question as Martin...?

[Don Woods]

No Included LCD... That is interesting but I can live with that... Also no battery?

[Martin Drew]

And what is that funky lens on the renders? Do I spy a Red prime?

M

[Alexander Nikishin]

Awsome prices, thank you again Jim! I am a happy man today and so is my pocketbook!

[Mark Holmes]

It's interesting watching the birth of what could be the next Panavision, especially when Red aims to democratize film making in exactly the opposite way the old world equipment companies have structured their business model... I look forward, as someone who for now only has the intention of hiring or renting Red cameras and operators, the first projects from Red One.

[Rob Lohman]

See this thread on allowance:

http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=887

[Manfred Lopez]

$4,500 for ram? Does that mean the camera comes without ram and it has to be bought separately, just like computers?

[Michael Hastings]

It seems pretty clear to me - for $17500 you get the red one body and your choice of $2500 of accessories - so you get the LCD at $1700 and the RED 320 raid for $900 so you gotta kick in an extra $100 i.e. total of $17600 gets you red body, LCD, and 320 red raid - borrow or steal a PL mount lens, grab your script, and you can shoot your movie! So the RED reservation got you your place in line and a 15% per cent discount.



Okay. So do I read it correctly that the bare camera body + PL mount + cables is what you get for $17500 now. No Battery, No LCD. They are both extra. Is that true for reservation holders too?

M

[Rob Lohman]

TheThe: no, you don't need it to have a working camera.

[Adrian T.]

It seems pretty clear to me - for $17500 you get the red one body and your choice of $2500 of accessories - so you get the LCD at $1700 and the RED 320 raid for $900 so you gotta kick in an extra $100 i.e. total of $17600 gets you red body, LCD, and 320 red raid - borrow or steal a PL mount lens, grab your script, and you can shoot your movie! So the RED reservation got you your place in line and a 15% per cent discount.

Don't forget the battery or you'll shoot not a single frame! :biggrin:

[Martin Drew]

It seems pretty clear to me - for $17500 you get the red one body and your choice of $2500 of accessories - so you get the LCD at $1700 and the RED 320 raid for $900 so you gotta kick in an extra $100 i.e. total of $17600 gets you red body, LCD, and 320 red raid - borrow or steal a PL mount lens, grab your script, and you can shoot your movie! So the RED reservation got you your place in line and a 15% per cent discount.

You forgot power. You will need at least one battery, a battery mount and a charger so add on another $1650 + whatever a battery mount costs

M

[Michael Hastings]

No it is a RAM disk. At 64GB figure it is the same as eight 8GB P2 cards for an HVX200 which are $1299 apiece at B&H, so compare $10392 mail order price for a completely proprietary solution - to $4500 for the Red solution which it appears internally is just a standard SATA interface flash drive.



$4,500 for ram? Does that mean the camera comes without ram and it has to be bought separately, just like computers?

[Alexander Nikishin]

What exactly does Red Ram do Rob?

[LighthouseMEdia]

Okay quick question can anyone tell me if other V lock batteries will work with Red or will it specifically require Red batteries, or would AB Vlocks work?

[Anders Holck]

Can't see why other Vmount batteries shouldn't work. As long as they can deliver the Amp's that the system draws.

[Stuart English]

You could use other V lock batteries. It is a standard format V plate...

[Michael Hastings]

No, I didn't forget power - I - like many of the people here who already own gear - have Anton Bauer and NP1 style lithium batteries and chargers which should be very easy to adapt. The RED batteries are reasonably priced so if you don't have power get the RED or if you are really on a budget (or are going to use it in an underwater housing, as I will also be doing) then I am sure there is a 4 pin XLR or some more modern version of an external DC connector and you can simply hook that up to any 12 volt source.



You forgot power. You will need at least one battery, a battery mount and a charger so add on another $1650 + whatever a battery mount costs

M

[LighthouseMEdia]

Also is there any update on wether or not the CF module and SATA modules will work with only RED media or off the shelf media as well?

[Mark L. Pederson]

What kind of framerates can I get with the RED RAM option?

Perfrormance of Expresscard media vs. SATA 1.8 flash media??

Optical Port - any details? How does the data come out? Please define transeiver?

Is that photo of the camera reveal a RED PRIME lens?

[Don Woods]

Looks like a prime to me a very sexy one

[david farland]

Too many thanks here RED team!!!!

Cheers & well done
DF


Notes on RED.COM pricing page

There looks to be a formatting error (in IE6) on prices for RED ONE BASIC & PREMIUM PRODUCTION PACKS....see attached screen shot....just trying to keep the brand looking good.....also DIGITAL MEDIA OPTION sections are a bit hard to differentiate.

Oh yeah...great that you can click on camera images on prices page to get enlarged view.....didn't know that!

sorry to pick, just trying to make you look good...well done again!

DF

ps: you know about the white background on the RED camera body thumbnail, right!

[Stuart English]

We intend to offer a wide slection of media recording options, ranging from maximum economy - represented by RED-DRIVE at 320GB for under $1,000, up through maximum performance - represented by RED-RAM.

RED-RAM is a special version of the RED-DRIVE chassis that has two 32GB flash memory modules instead of hard disk drives. This arrangement offers outstanding resiliance against extremes of temperature and vibration, and a very high maximum data transfer rate.

[roryhinds]

Hi Stuart

Thanks for sharing the knowledge about the RED RAM. Is it possible to inlighten us on the other accessories as I'm sure many people would like to know more.

It all looks fantastic but I'd like to know what I'm looking at :-)

Regards
Rory

[Joel Kaye]

RED-RAM is a special version of the RED-DRIVE chassis that has two 32GB flash memory modules instead of hard disk drives.

I figure I'll pick one of those up on eBay. :biggrin:

[Alexander Nikishin]

and a very high maximum data transfer rate.

Will this allow for any special recording options?

[Mark L. Pederson]

RED-RAM is a special version of the RED-DRIVE chassis that has two 32GB flash memory modules instead of hard disk drives. This arrangement offers outstanding resiliance against extremes of temperature and vibration, and a very high maximum data transfer rate.

go it - so, same frame rates, just faster transfer - more rugged (and most likely, longer lifespan) ??

does ANY solid state option give me higher frame rates than the RED-DRIVE (60p REDCODE & 120p REDCODE 2K windowed)?

[Emmanuel Decarpentrie]

Will this allow for any special recording options?

Mmm... Good question! My guess is this is one of the NAB "surprises"... :) I think we shouldn't expect a clear answer about that question before NAB. But I think Stuart wouldn't mention (hint?) "very high maximum data transfer rate" if this did not clearly provide some sort of advantage :wink:

BTW, did anyone notice the lenses that are shown on the prices list's pictures! Looks like "Red Primes" don't they? I'm willing to bet another of those "NAB surprises" is gonna be a nice set of (very fast) Primes :)

OK! Enough predictions for today :wink:

[Alexander Nikishin]

I'd love some primes! I'm sure the zoom will be first though since they put the word out for it first. I wouldn't expect a nice set of primes until maybe early next year?

[Brook Willard]

The pictured lens has three geared rings... it's a zoom. A placeholder zoom for the render [not a real product].

At least that's what I'd put money on.

[Alexander Nikishin]

The pictured lens has three geared rings... it's a zoom. A placeholder zoom for the render [not a real product].

At least that's what I'd put money on.

Good eye. :biggrin:

[Alex Boothby]

That's one compact zoom!

[Ivan G]

For those who own 35mm, Canon, and Nikon glass, wouldn't you rather use the 35mm lens? Even if you had the same mm in the 35?

[Brook Willard]

For those who own 35mm, Canon, and Nikon glass, wouldn't you rather use the 35mm lens? Even if you had the same mm in the 35?

I don't really know what you're saying here.

If you're asking what I think you're asking... it's a resounding yes. I'd shoot PL-mount cine glass over Canon/Nikon still glass any day.

[Casey Green]

Even though I don't currently have the resources available to have put in a reservation, I wanted to say thanks again to the Red Team for sticking as close to their initial price point as possible. Also, thanks for the changes that have been made since last years specs... obvious improvements in many areas.

Of course, I would love to own a Red One camera, but let's not forget that rental prices will be incredibly affordable too for this type of quality film making, as that will be my only path early on.

One question which may have been already asked... I did not see any lenses on the new price list. Are the older prices still holding?

RED 300MM f2.8 LENS $4995?
RED 18-85MM f2.8 ZOOM LENS $9,500?

And are there any other lenses that need to be added to the list?

[Martin Ludwig]

We will post the price list on www.red.com about 5pm PST today. All reservation holders from 1-1460 will receive a one time "reservation allowance" to be used when purchasing accessories for the RED ONE camera. This "allowance" amount will be deducted from the total purchased package price.

Jim

Does that mean for those reservation holders, holding more than one reservation 2.500 USD for each reserved camera, if they buy accessories for each ?

[Alexander Nikishin]

That means that you get $2,500 off the purchase price for each camera you purchase. This discount it seems is only valid towrds accessories purchases.

If you plan on buying no accessories, I'd imagine there being no allowance.

[Steve Gibby]

Does that mean for those reservation holders, holding more than one reservation 2.500 USD for each reserved camera, if they buy accessories for each ?

Yes...see Jim's thread opening post here:
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=887

[Miltos Pilalitos]

We will post the price list on www.red.com about 5pm PST today. All reservation holders from 1-1460 will receive a one time "reservation allowance" to be used when purchasing accessories for the RED ONE camera. This "allowance" amount will be deducted from the total purchased package price.

Jim

I hope that number was a typo Jim because i am a reservation holder and my number is 1473.

Could you please verify this? Thanks.

Miltos

EDIT! Ok don't answer that! I found out myself! :-)

[RED-Tank]

Thanks RED, I am one of the list ^o^

[Gregory Karydis]

Christmas comes early this year! (and it's not because of the earlier Daylight adjustment :spidy: )
THANKS RED ! ! !

[Ivan G]

I don't really know what you're saying here.

If you're asking what I think you're asking... it's a resounding yes. I'd shoot PL-mount cine glass over Canon/Nikon still glass any day.

Thanks Brook! Just wanted to clarify...:whistling: