Zach Hilton
02-22-2008, 04:37 PM
Hello all, doing some tests with Iblooms very handy Redtrip script. So far so good with a few glitches and wondering if anyone with know how has any input. Forgive my lack of knowledge on many things. Higher end things are rather new to me, but it is rather exciting to be playing with such high resolution and latitude on such a relatively cheap computer. Okay. First let me explain what we did. We shot some footage (mostly if not all 2k), then we edited the quicktime proxies in FCP in an SD sequence scaling down the 1k proxy (ie. letterboxed). The end edit was about 1 min and a half with 32 edits. Exported XML to FCP then used Ian's script and made a working Redcine XML. Everything imported just fine (one weird thing though that I can't figure out, is that Redcine was playing things back 2x or faster. Couldn't find a setting that I might have accidentally pushed to make it do that. Anyone?). Since we were going to go directly to Color I didn't do any color correction in Redcine, but just exported DPX sequences of the pulled footage. Took about 7 min for 1 min 1/2 of 2k > 1080 dpx's for anyone interested. Now here is where there are things that I don't quite understand.
One. I tried saving the Redcine XML (as Ibloom's script requests to be able to take things back into FCP) but it said "Failed to save Redcine file" or something like that. So, I wasn't able to save the Redcine project file. And thus, I've only been able to test 50% of Ibloom's redtrip. What I have tested has yielded very exceptional results. Here is my thought on why Redcine won't let me save the project. Possibly because I have DPX in my output window and it doesn't like that? Haven't troubleshooted it too much yet. Kind of odd if you ask me. Also, don't know exactly how I'm going to reconnect the DPX exports to the XML that redcine exports, or I might just be going about this the wrong way. There's always the manual way of reconnecting footage but that would get real tedious. Anyway.
Two. Color sees the DPX's and imports just fine, but the color isn't anything representative of what I exported. We can tweak the color and get it looking "normal" or how we exported it, but it seems like it should import correctly. The interesting thing is that any adobe product sees the dpx sequences just fine (AE, Ps, Pr). AJA DPXtoQTTranslator sees it just fine. Here are two grabs of the same frame to give you an idea. Initial thoughts is that Color is messing it up since it is seen how I export it in various other programs (color space issue?). Anyway, thoughts, comments, critiques always welcome.
*DISCLAIMER* These images are to show you what is happening in the transition from Redcine to Color. Not for any resolution or quality analysis. The original images look fantastic, especially in slow-mo.
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/836_1203726756.jpg
Redcine DPX Export
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/836_1203726556.jpg
Color Screenshot from DPX sequence. (No color correction applied-looks just like this on import)
I do have to say though, all of us here are highly impressed at the image quality, and the latitude that is present. Very impressive. Cheers to the Red Team for sure!
One. I tried saving the Redcine XML (as Ibloom's script requests to be able to take things back into FCP) but it said "Failed to save Redcine file" or something like that. So, I wasn't able to save the Redcine project file. And thus, I've only been able to test 50% of Ibloom's redtrip. What I have tested has yielded very exceptional results. Here is my thought on why Redcine won't let me save the project. Possibly because I have DPX in my output window and it doesn't like that? Haven't troubleshooted it too much yet. Kind of odd if you ask me. Also, don't know exactly how I'm going to reconnect the DPX exports to the XML that redcine exports, or I might just be going about this the wrong way. There's always the manual way of reconnecting footage but that would get real tedious. Anyway.
Two. Color sees the DPX's and imports just fine, but the color isn't anything representative of what I exported. We can tweak the color and get it looking "normal" or how we exported it, but it seems like it should import correctly. The interesting thing is that any adobe product sees the dpx sequences just fine (AE, Ps, Pr). AJA DPXtoQTTranslator sees it just fine. Here are two grabs of the same frame to give you an idea. Initial thoughts is that Color is messing it up since it is seen how I export it in various other programs (color space issue?). Anyway, thoughts, comments, critiques always welcome.
*DISCLAIMER* These images are to show you what is happening in the transition from Redcine to Color. Not for any resolution or quality analysis. The original images look fantastic, especially in slow-mo.
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/836_1203726756.jpg
Redcine DPX Export
http://www.reduser.net/forum/uploaded/836_1203726556.jpg
Color Screenshot from DPX sequence. (No color correction applied-looks just like this on import)
I do have to say though, all of us here are highly impressed at the image quality, and the latitude that is present. Very impressive. Cheers to the Red Team for sure!