View Full Version : What about weight?
Gopher77
03-13-2007, 09:32 AM
I'm buying a new tripod for my Red how much weight do these accessories add to the Red One (if I remember it is 8lbs).
PaulClements
03-13-2007, 10:07 AM
http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthread.php?t=913
Brook Willard
03-13-2007, 10:08 AM
The current camera weight is just over 9lbs, but that is a prototype only. They're working on trimming the fat, so your 8lb guess is probably right on.
Since the accessories are made of metal, you can probably estimate the total weight. The full rail/cage system will undoubtedly add several pounds to the system. The EVF and LCD will add several more ounces each.
Small fries. You should carefully consider what lenses you'll be using. If you'll be using a zoom, at best the zoom will weigh as much as the camera [probably significantly more]. Batteries won't be too light either... they're batteries! Even if you're using primes, consider the weight of your mattebox and any filters you may put in there. Maybe you'll even upgrade and add more accessories down the line... who knows?
I'm being vague because I don't know. But I'd be treating this thing like a film camera, not a camcorder. Personally, I'd grab a nice, beefy, Mitchell-type head.
Steve Gibby
03-13-2007, 10:24 AM
Weight will be variable, and depend on what you're shooting, the style of shooting (cine-style or EFP style), and how you're shooting it (hand held or sticks).
In general terms, cine-style equipment setups will weigh more than EFP-style setups. Cine lenses tend to be heavier than EFP lenses, plus the addition of rods, follow focus, matte box, and other accessories that aren't generally used for EFP.
If you do mostly cine-style, relatively stationary production with a lot of accessories, you'll thus have a heavily accessorized camera - thus a big, beefy tripod is a necessity. If you do a lot of mobile EFP production then your RED One will be much more lightly accessorized, thus you will need a mid-sized tripod with a good head.
Loads? For the cine-style work described above, plan for usual RED One loads in the 35 to 60 pound range. A big O'Connor or Vinten is probably your ticket. For the mobile EFP style work described above, RED One loads may range from 16 to 25 pounds, thus a lighter weight, good head tripod like a Vinten, Satchtler, or Miller will do well.
If you do both styles, I'd say buy a tripod that fits the biggest range of loads you'll face, then save money to buy a second tripod, so you can have a 2-tripod rotation. Then rent the odd tripod for one-off projects.
BTW, EFP zooms average 4 or 5 pounds and RED One will weigh around 8 pounds.
Brook Willard
03-13-2007, 10:27 AM
Ah, good catch, Gibby. My approach was strictly cine-oriented.
Gopher77
03-13-2007, 12:23 PM
Here's some possibilities, any pros or cons?
Cartoni Gamma G101 $3700
Sachtler Video 15sb $5300
Vinten Vison 11 $4750
Miller Arrow 40 $4300
Thanks,
Gopher
Steve Gibby
03-13-2007, 12:32 PM
At that price level it's hard to get a "bad" tripod. That said, personal taste, genres you shoot, and feel of the fluid head action come into play. For EFP I've used a lot of Vinten and Sachtler, with good results. I'd say get to NAB and do some hands-on testing. If you can't make it there, get to a major dealer or rental house and do the same. Also, ask around your circle of production associates who do the same genres of production you do. You'll find that is way valuable. Come to think of it - that's waht you're doing on this forum!