SIModified RED Accessories

[Sanjin Jukic]

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SIModified RED Accessories

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SIModified RED Toe Piece
Price: $1,000.00

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SIModified RED Breakout Box
Price: $500.00

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SIModified RED Handle

Includes adjustable dovetail battery mount

(with Anton, IDX and RED mounting holes).

The Viewfinder mount allows maximum flexibility,

with complete lock down functions and standard eye piece.

Includes 8" and 4" extension arm.

Price: $2,100.00

LINK>>> (http://store.simvideo.com/)

[Dominic Jones]

Great stuff - breakout box looks a much better bet than the ET version - anyone know who we contact for sales @ SIM?

[Brent J. Craig]

Contact JDB here on reduser or go to their site http://store.simvideo.com/

They have some more cool stuff in the works.

[Adrian T.]

breakout box looks a much better bet than the ET version

You must be kidding. :wacko:

[Ivan G]

What's a third party alternative to the base production pack?

[Warren Kommers]

Great stuff - breakout box looks a much better bet than the ET version - anyone know who we contact for sales @ SIM?

That was the last thing I thought.

[Nick Gardner]

I'm diggin that the Breakout box is flat, not all roundy for no reason. There is a shortage of flat places on this camera to velcro stuff to. Aja looks like it would fit nicely there.

Nick

[Gabriel Beaudry]

Great stuff - breakout box looks a much better bet than the ET version

Can you exlain why? I just don't get the headphone jack hole in the middle of the box. ETs is smaller so you have direct access to the headphone jack.

[John DeBoer]

Can you exlain why? I just don't get the headphone jack hole in the middle of the box. ETs is smaller so you have direct access to the headphone jack.
You still have direct access to the headphone jack....it just has a hole (cylindrical tube if you will) milled out for access.

[Gabriel Beaudry]

There seem to be 2 photo versions of the box. Witch one is being sold?

[Dominic Jones]

Don't really care about the headphone jack. Do very much care about the four screws holding the unit in, rather than it being clamped to the mini-BNC's with just one independent point of attachment as with the ET unit. Much more solid and protective of the camera's built-in connectors.

FWIW (which ain't much!), I thought the original SIM design (covering all of the HDMI etc ports) looked better, but I'm guessing this way they don't have to worry about routing all those connectors through as well...

And no, I'm not joking. Price is better too.

Thanks Crewpix, I'll PM JDB...

[Dominic Jones]

One big difference is there is no tension on our DIN connectors, and the box is held on by 4 bolts. We have built for our rental house several connectors for the F900H that allowed us to use 7 pin xlr for the analog HD signals, and it was held on by one bolt. It tended to wiggle loose over time. We now use minimum of 2 holes, and try for 4 holes.
Beat me to it by a fraction of a second John, but my point exactly!

[John DeBoer]

There seem to be 2 photo versions of the box. Witch one is being sold?

The one currently being sold is the breakout box. It just converts from DIN connector to BNC.

The other box is in development, but carries a downconverter in it. This one is a ways off yet.

[John DeBoer]

I'm diggin that the Breakout box is flat, not all roundy for no reason. There is a shortage of flat places on this camera to velcro stuff to. Aja looks like it would fit nicely there.

Nick

Pretty observant Nick......it is a problem with this camera.

[Dominic Jones]

Ah, interesting - figured it was just a re-design...

So... Two questions spring to mind:

1) Any idea on pricing (ball park figure fine, off forum and on the QT also fine, if you don't want it released) for the downconverter version?

2) Does the downconverter unit also pass-though the HDMI/USB/etc ports?

Cheers John, just about to PM you...

[Michael Lindsay]

... Do very much care about the four screws holding the unit in, rather than it being clamped to the mini-BNC's with just one independent point of attachment as with the ET unit. Much more solid and protective of the camera's built-in connectors.


This was a concern I took to ET about their design 4 weeks ago... Stephen explained in detail how his BOB is a very tight fit into that space and is held pretty firm even without the screw...

I should have mine soonish and will report back..

its great to have 2 options!

Michael

[John DeBoer]

So... Two questions spring to mind:

1) Any idea on pricing (ball park figure fine, off forum and on the QT also fine, if you don't want it released) for the downconverter version?/QUOTE]

The price is going to be high....and we do not expect sales to be high. However, as ARRINICK pointed out, the breakout box is flat to hold velcro and the aja for steadicam shots. We would recommend that for all wired shots you put the downconverter and transmitter at the DOP station.

[QUOTE]
2) Does the downconverter unit also pass-though the HDMI/USB/etc ports?


The USB will be on the top of the box, with a protective rain cover. The HDMI is a redundant connector on the camera. The HDSDI outputs are more in tune with the professional side of the industry. The headphone jack is on the bottom, along with the Genlock.

[Dominic Jones]

Bugger, sorry - double post...

[Dominic Jones]

its great to have 2 options!
That, my friend, is very true!

Also, having just checked the ET unit is less than I thought it was (seem to remember a price of around $850 being bandied about in the past, but maybe my recollection is off?), although the SIM unit still just edges it at $500.

I'm still in for the SIM unit, but would love to hear your feedback on the ET unit once you have it...

John - the HDMI connector is only "redundant" if you're using the Red LCD screen - it is very much not redundant if you're using the Carrion (as we will be) and want menu output through the HDMI out to the DVI in on the Carrion screen. Looks like we'll be getting the non-downconverting version anyway, so no great shakes from our pov, but something you might want to reconsider?

[John DeBoer]

That, my friend, is very true!
John - the HDMI connector is only "redundant" if you're using the Red LCD screen - it is very much not redundant if you're using the Carrion (as we will be) and want menu output through the HDMI out to the DVI in on the Carrion screen. Looks like we'll be getting the non-downconverting version anyway, so no great shakes from our pov, but something you might want to reconsider?

I know...but when/if we sell the downconverting model, the price point will be for the highest end client. (We do understand the RED concept...please no flames about the RED revolution being only about the cost, but there will be professionals using this gear, and they will be using high end HDSDI input on boards) We have left the HDMI and USB open for those who desire it.

The most cost effective route would be the SIModified Breakout Box, and velcro the AJA to the side.

[Dominic Jones]

Understood John - that's a fair approach.

We'll be taking exactly the route you describe, with the AJA box hired in on the (probably rare) occasions we need it or others require it...

Just a thought, but looks like you're way ahead of me!

[Evin Grant]

I Do very much care about the four screws holding the unit in, rather than it being clamped to the mini-BNC's with just one independent point of attachment as with the ET unit. Much more solid and protective of the camera's built-in connectors.

Dominic,
You may not have had a chance to attach an ET breakout box yourself but if you had you'd have seen that the Din connector assembly floats on springs inside of the unit and does not exert pressure on the connectors. The rigidity of the ET unit comes primarily from the very tight tolerance fit it has inside the connector recess coupled with a support channel that bottoms out in the screw hole below. It does not rely on the screw thread or the din connectors for stability/rigidity, and any force applied except directly away from the body (You pulling on it) will be born by the Red One body it's self.
I'd feel totally comfortable hanging a spare red from that breakout box. It's not going anywhere.

[Dominic Jones]

Fair enough, thanks for the info Evin. I still don't like the fact that it's more "catchable" on stuff than the SIM version by the looks of it, plus the SIM unit is cheaper and - as mentioned - allows for some velcro attachment space, so I'm not getting swayed in my decision, but good to know all the same.

Definitely not my intention to bash the ET unit, just my personal thoughts. I'm still happier with the four screw mounting approach, even if it's just out of sheer superstition!

[Chris Parker]

The SIM accessories do kick ass. No doubt about that. Solid as a rock. I am going with them for sure.

[Evin Grant]

We'll it's nice to have options, With an $80 or so difference in price I think most people will choose the unit that best fits their needs.

[Sanjin Jukic]

You Tube SIM's RED Accessories 3 videos

1. SIM RED HANDLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhG4dfwXfeQ&feature=related)

2. SIM Red handle 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_NISTOfpjU&feature=related)

3. SIM RED Handle Stress Test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AATbf5J8vE&feature=related)

Enjoy!

[Dominic Jones]

With an $80 or so difference in price I think most people will choose the unit that best fits their needs.
I would certainly hope so! As you say, two good options, so hopefully everyone will be happy...

Cheers,
Dom.