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Feast your eyes on ORIGO™
we have just received our first prototypes....
FYI, in case the title of the thread is too cryptic... Origo is our start stop button we've been working on.
Charles Perkins
03-15-2008, 04:09 AM
how much?
Curran Giddens
03-15-2008, 04:30 AM
I think it is around $200 with the LEMO cable?
Cüneyt Kaya
03-15-2008, 06:03 AM
can you guys update your homepage, its difficult to find your products here...
you are developing other things too, right, FF MB etc...
would be nice...
I wouldn't say its difficult to find our products... more like impossible. We are going to have the store online asap and the product pages will be updated as well. Curran - the price should come in well under $200 with the cable....
Mark Pugh
03-15-2008, 08:12 AM
It's really good value, Curt.
James T Mather
03-15-2008, 08:12 AM
Hi Curt - when realistically will you have online ordering set up?
Chris Gearhart
03-15-2008, 08:24 AM
Kurt! I love you, man.
Can I assume the event trigger is an option per the other thread?
Chris Parker
03-15-2008, 08:37 AM
how can we order now, and how long is delivery time?
john is getting our store squared away. One of us will let u know sometime today or tomorrow when you can place an order.
Matt Uhry
03-15-2008, 11:10 AM
I have maximum respect for the Von Badinski clan. This is cool, and they move fast. Have you thought about doing an underslung version of the Mirius ?
Matt Uhry
www.mattuhry.com
Brian Broz
03-15-2008, 11:14 AM
Origo looks great!
Semi-related question: Has anyone found an easy way to adapt the Red grip to 15mm rods?
Frank Weeks
03-15-2008, 11:20 AM
Curt,
Will longer cables be available? Cost?
Thanks
Frank
Brent J. Craig
03-15-2008, 08:55 PM
Wow. How much do you guys rock!?! That looks so good I want one now for the motion picture cameras I use, and another for my Nikon!
Whaddya say?
JD Holloway
03-15-2008, 09:24 PM
Hell ya.
I'd love a list of mechandise you guys were producing and prices.
feel free to pm me in your spare time (I know I know).
Fit and finish appear superior to REDs stuff right now...
Steve Sherrick
03-16-2008, 09:08 PM
Lovely. Can't wait to order.
MikeHedge
03-16-2008, 11:02 PM
Curt great meeting you in person... I have some great shots of you /view factor stuff on my flickr.
http://flickr.com/photos/mikehedge/sets/72157604137641957/
We are shooting for this Friday to start taking orders on origo record button
James T Mather
03-17-2008, 12:57 AM
what about the follow focus? same day? thx/
John V
03-17-2008, 05:57 PM
Motor will be available for sale as well...:)
Ok, we finally have pricing from LEMO and can give some solid pricing for the cables and record button. We're working out our shipping options and will have them up for sale on our website by weeks end and first units will ship a couple weeks after NAB. We were going to be making these out of plastic but then common sense got the better of us so now they're going to be diecast (aka bullet proofish). We ended up going with two straight connectors instead of the rt. angle and straight connector - the reasoning is that we wanted to get the cable pricing very low and the best way to do that is to use the same connectors on both ends of the cable and double the volume pricing. If enough people want the straight to right angle then we can revisit that issue and provide an option.
Origo: $110
2.5ft Straight Cable: $73
2.5ft Coiled Cable: $86
30ft Straight Cable: $98
grandpa it burns
03-19-2008, 04:18 PM
Curt you are amazing! I love you.
Seth Fullerton
03-24-2008, 10:59 AM
Ok, we finally have pricing from LEMO and can give some solid pricing for the cables and record button. We're working out our shipping options and will have them up for sale on our website by weeks end and first units will ship a couple weeks after NAB. We were going to be making these out of plastic but then common sense got the better of us so now they're going to be diecast (aka bullet proofish). We ended up going with two straight connectors instead of the rt. angle and straight connector - the reasoning is that we wanted to get the cable pricing very low and the best way to do that is to use the same connectors on both ends of the cable and double the volume pricing. If enough people want the straight to right angle then we can revisit that issue and provide an option.
Origo: $110
2.5ft Straight Cable: $73
2.5ft Coiled Cable: $86
30ft Straight Cable: $98
Hey Curt, I need an appx. 100 foot run for a shoot on an Akela crane. What are my options? Can you make 2@ 50 feet? Will it work from that far? I've got about a week to come up with a solution.
Thanks!
Anders Holck
03-24-2008, 12:23 PM
Hey Curt, I need an appx. 100 foot run for a shoot on an Akela crane. What are my options? Can you make 2@ 50 feet? Will it work from that far? I've got about a week to come up with a solution.
Thanks!
Why not go wireless? All major FF systems can start/stop the RED camera
Seth, not sure on the long distances. The red camera outputs a tally signal that we have to get in order to verify that recording has started... not sure how much current they have behind that signal and how well it would fare over the longer distances. We're looking into a 60 foot option so it wouldn't take much to verify 100 feet at the same time. The other option is to use Impero - it has a start/stop built in.
Anders - Making Origo wireless would make it a $500ish product instead of a lean and mean sub $200 product.
Tony Lorentzen
03-24-2008, 01:06 PM
Anders - Making Origo wireless would make it a $500ish product instead of a lean and mean sub $200 product.
So - put it into the Impero instead and I'd be willing to pay a few hundred more for that feature.
Ok, just received the first shots off the tool. They're off for finishing and we should have manufacturing churning these out at the very beginning of next week.
roryhinds
05-14-2008, 07:15 AM
Hey Curt
When do you expect shipping on the Motor and Remote?
Emmanuel Cambier
05-14-2008, 07:37 AM
Hi Curt,
About your online shop, when would my credit card get charged if I ordered an inclino and an impero today?
Sorry for this dumb question, but I need to know.
Emmanuel
Hey Curt
When do you expect shipping on the Motor and Remote? Inclino and Impero are set to start shipping at the very end of the month.
Hi Curt,
About your online shop, when would my credit card get charged if I ordered an inclino and an impero today? It would be charged immediately after you place the order.
Tom Lowe
05-14-2008, 08:24 AM
Glad to know those bad boys will be shipping soon. Does the system include a dolly axis yet?
I've got that shot I've been mentioning to you for a while that I would love to shoot late this summer or fall. It's comping a RED daylight dolly move with a DSLR long-exposure (night stars) move. Would you guys possibly be down for a test like that at Joshua Tree or Lone Pine? It's a girl walking through a dreamlike landscape of rock formations shot at sunset/sunrise, and then comped with the moving stars behind her.
Forum member Andrew Benz, I think, wants to help out with it, too.
Jeff Kilgroe
05-14-2008, 08:32 AM
Hey Tom, I'd help if I wasn't as far away. I want to do a shot just like that too and will probably be doing some version of that as soon as I get Mirus..
Brian Kaz
05-14-2008, 08:33 AM
Hi Curt,
About your online shop, when would my credit card get charged if I ordered an inclino and an impero today?
Sorry for this dumb question, but I need to know.
Emmanuel
I ordered this before NAB and was charged that day.
**EDIT*** Too slow...
Curran Giddens
05-14-2008, 08:39 AM
Tom, that sounds like it will be some awesome imagery.
I vote for the MoCo dolly as the next product for VFS. Well, that and the Arca mattebox....
Tom Lowe
05-14-2008, 08:47 AM
Hey Tom, I'd help if I wasn't as far away. I want to do a shot just like that too and will probably be doing some version of that as soon as I get Mirus..
Jeff I'm gonna be up Arches National Park not too far from you in August shooting this type of stuff if you want to hook up?
Andrew Benz
05-14-2008, 09:15 AM
Forum member Andrew Benz, I think, wants to help out with it, too.
Funny you mention this... Tom, I most definitely want to help and will bend over backwards to make the schedules work (fall is football client time).
I just got a copy of Fricke's "Chronos" and while watching it the other night all I could think of was... Tom (helping you get your comp idea worked out), Red (sweet jebus, I just got it Monday! but just have time now to turn it on for the first time- :) ), the Mirus and the three months I spent back in '95 living in Giza, Egypt (watch Chronos, for those that have not and get ready to be inspired and buy a plane ticket--stay at the Mena House).
But hey, we need to kidnap Jeff if cannot come, just because... :biggrin:
I am so fired up for the Mirus and all things ViewFactor, it makes me feel like a kid with the best Legos ever...:)
Paul Hazlett
05-14-2008, 10:04 AM
Hi VB's
any way to know where we stand in line in the FF system? am jonesing hard
for that thang
Glad to know those bad boys will be shipping soon. Does the system include a dolly axis yet?
I've got that shot I've been mentioning to you for a while that I would love to shoot late this summer or fall. It's comping a RED daylight dolly move with a DSLR long-exposure (night stars) move. Would you guys possibly be down for a test like that at Joshua Tree or Lone Pine? It's a girl walking through a dreamlike landscape of rock formations shot at sunset/sunrise, and then comped with the moving stars behind her.
Forum member Andrew Benz, I think, wants to help out with it, too.
We're definitely up for something like that. The production moco boards come in a few weeks then we will be able to start putting some production systems together. We'll have some solid June ship dates around that time.
Tom, that sounds like it will be some awesome imagery.
I vote for the MoCo dolly as the next product for VFS. Well, that and the Arca mattebox.... We have a fairly significant road map in place... both of those are on the list.
... I am so fired up for the Mirus and all things ViewFactor, it makes me feel like a kid with the best Legos ever...:)
We aim to please ;)
Hi VB's
any way to know where we stand in line in the FF system? am jonesing hard
for that thang First units are shipping by the end of the month.
Zach Hilton
05-14-2008, 10:30 AM
First units are shipping by the end of the month. Man! I seriously can't wait for this system. Feels like the end of the month is forever away! Any thought on how much this will affect the life of batteries? Will it draw the same amount no matter what, or when it's not being used, it uses less. Forgive my limited knowledge of electronics. Just curious how this will affect my battery life.
Bruce Allen
05-14-2008, 10:36 AM
Let me add my vote for the dolly...
BTW, would it fit in my Honda Civic?
Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com
Tom Lowe
05-14-2008, 01:09 PM
Hey Curt, thanks. Not to push my luck or anything (:)) but is there any chance that you guys will have a prototype rig that includes a dolly anytime this year? The shot I have in mind might be cool with just pan and tilt, but I really picture it with dolly motion as well.
Bruce, I think you might need to add a roof rack to that Civic. :)
jaadgy akanni
05-14-2008, 01:29 PM
on behalf of those of us who won't have a REd camera for a long while, can we use the Inclino and Impero with our SLR lenses on HVX200, JVC HD200, SONY EX, etc.? Any reason why this FF system wouldn't work on a 1/3'' ccd camera/35mm adapter setup?
I've been tempted to order, but I need to be sure.
Jeff Kilgroe
05-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Jeff I'm gonna be up Arches National Park not too far from you in August shooting this type of stuff if you want to hook up?
Hmm... Moab... August... That might work.
Curt... How long will it take to fill the orders for Inclino and Impero once they start shipping? I didn't order until after NAB (I'm a procrastinator sometimes), but I kinda need the FF setup yesterday.
Steve Sherrick
05-14-2008, 04:39 PM
I was wondering the same thing. If I order today when would it deliver? I should have ordered when first released so my fault for waiting.
Man! I seriously can't wait for this system. Feels like the end of the month is forever away! Any thought on how much this will affect the life of batteries? Will it draw the same amount no matter what, or when it's not being used, it uses less. Forgive my limited knowledge of electronics. Just curious how this will affect my battery life.
The motors draw about 12V@ 1 amp each so a 3 motor setup would be 3 amps x 12V x 1 hr = 36 Wh. Typical battery life for the RED One is about an hour on the battery so thats about 150 Wh. Total consumption would then be 186 Wh and with a 150Wh battery that would mean 48 minutes vs 60 minutes - so basically it would decrease battery life by 10 -15 minutes (if you were running them continuously). When the motors are idle they draw nowhere near an amp so that number is probably a little steep.
Let me add my vote for the dolly...
BTW, would it fit in my Honda Civic?
Bruce Allen
www.boacinema.com We'll see. The idea is to make it break down into manageable sections of about 3-4ft in length. Ideally I'd like to get a 20' dolly in something around the size of a couple tripod cases (14" diameter and 4' longish)
Hey Curt, thanks. Not to push my luck or anything (:)) but is there any chance that you guys will have a prototype rig that includes a dolly anytime this year? The shot I have in mind might be cool with just pan and tilt, but I really picture it with dolly motion as well. We should have a dolly ready by the summer. Even if its a modified off the shelf set of tracks
on behalf of those of us who won't have a REd camera for a long while, can we use the Inclino and Impero with our SLR lenses on HVX200, JVC HD200, SONY EX, etc.? Any reason why this FF system wouldn't work on a 1/3'' ccd camera/35mm adapter setup?
I've been tempted to order, but I need to be sure. No reason why it shouldnt work on those setups. As long as you have a battery supply with a Dtap connection it would work fine. The only thing we dont offer yet is the gear rings for non-cinema lenses. We are working on it but for now I'd suggest going with redrock or zacuto's solution on the lens gear adaptors.
Curt... How long will it take to fill the orders for Inclino and Impero once they start shipping? I didn't order until after NAB (I'm a procrastinator sometimes), but I kinda need the FF setup yesterday. We are planning on fulfilling initial orders up to NAB by the middle of June. Orders after NAB will definitely be the middle of June to the end of June. Like I said before, the problem isn't capacity its component lead times. We're working it out with our CM as we speak.
C.H.Haskell
05-14-2008, 10:44 PM
Hey Curt, Haskell here....nice to see your rig in action at NAB this year and if I was not so tapped financially from RED alone I would have placed my order then and there on the show floor. All of he View Factor toys blew me out of the water, Curt and his brothers really are delivering some next gen hardware for completely fair prices...best of luck getting them up to speed and out the door.
jimhare
05-14-2008, 11:09 PM
Why not go wireless? All major FF systems can start/stop the RED camera
So will Impero/Inclino start/stop the RED? If we does, would you get the Origo as well or not necessary?
Zach Hilton
05-15-2008, 02:51 AM
The motors draw about 12V@ 1 amp each so a 3 motor setup would be 3 amps x 12V x 1 hr = 36 Wh. Typical battery life for the RED One is about an hour on the battery so thats about 150 Wh. Total consumption would then be 186 Wh and with a 150Wh battery that would mean 48 minutes vs 60 minutes - so basically it would decrease battery life by 10 -15 minutes (if you were running them continuously). When the motors are idle they draw nowhere near an amp so that number is probably a little steep.
Thanks for the reply. Just the answer I was looking for.
Emmanuel Cambier
05-15-2008, 05:24 AM
Impero and Inclino + power and bus cable all ordered today:)
Emmanuel
So will Impero/Inclino start/stop the RED? If we does, would you get the Origo as well or not necessary? Yes, Impero will start and stop the camera remotely. Origo is useful in a hand held configuration or on a crane but if you have a focus puller then it doesn't make sense to have both.
Thanks for the order Emmanuel!
Finner
05-15-2008, 07:39 AM
Yes, Impero will start and stop the camera remotely. Origo is useful in a hand held configuration or on a crane but if you have a focus puller then it doesn't make sense to have both.
Thanks for the order Emmanuel!
IMO Origo is useful on the camera 24/7. Unlike a film camera Red is near silent. Which can cause a big question of focus pullers being unsure of if the camera is really rolling after they hit the record button. Origo is great because when you hit record the camera beeps 1 time reassuring you that the camera is rolling and beeps twice when you cut. This is a feauture that comes standard on most every cine camera available but was missed on the red. So in my books an Origo is a needed accessory all the time.
Shawn Booth
05-15-2008, 05:36 PM
Thanks Curt for this lovely accessory. Can't wait for it to show up at my door.
Emmanuel Cambier
05-18-2008, 04:06 AM
Yes, Impero will start and stop the camera remotely. Origo is useful in a hand held configuration or on a crane but if you have a focus puller then it doesn't make sense to have both.
Thanks for the order Emmanuel!
Hi Curt,
In order for Impero to start and stop the camera remotely and also to start speed ramp do we need any special accessories?
I have ordered Impero, Inclino, 1 bus cable and 1 Red Power cable.
Thanks
Emmanuel
Impero includes a small receiver unit that hooks directly to the camera using the red power cable - that passes through the tally and record start/stop functionality.
Emmanuel Cambier
05-18-2008, 11:16 AM
Impero includes a small receiver unit that hooks directly to the camera using the red power cable - that passes through the tally and record start/stop functionality.
Great!!
I just can't wait to hold that thing:w00t:
Emmanuel
Jonas Nyström
05-18-2008, 01:27 PM
Will save me lot of GBs in space, since I mostly do handheld. Count me in!