View Full Version : ProRes With Sound?
Eric MacIver
03-15-2008, 06:38 PM
So if I decide to edit a first-light color correction in Redcine to output ProRes files for editing in FCP, does anyone have a good suggestion for getting sound into those files?
Emery Wells
03-15-2008, 08:29 PM
We created a compressor droplet to extract the audio from the quicktime proxies. From there it's just a matter of lining them up in FCP. Perfect solution? No. But it's pretty easy.
tj williams
03-15-2008, 10:40 PM
Hey no problem I will just tell my client to do that. As a shooter giving footage on a drive to my client who is the producer, this will surely win my rave reviews. Tell me what other system takes us back to the halycon days of yor when every sound take was manually aligned with every sync. pic. Not since flat bed editing on 16mm film have we been promised so much fun.
Emery Wells
03-15-2008, 11:43 PM
Hey no problem I will just tell my client to do that. As a shooter giving footage on a drive to my client who is the producer, this will surely win my rave reviews. Tell me what other system takes us back to the halycon days of yor when every sound take was manually aligned with every sync. pic. Not since flat bed editing on 16mm film have we been promised so much fun.
Except there is no sync point to find and line up. The audio and video pair are precisely the same length. Frame 1 of the video matches frame 1 of the audio. You could have an assistant editor link the files and create subclips in an hours time (depending on how much footage you have obviously). I didn't say it was perfect but its a workable solution for now.
Joel Kaye
03-16-2008, 12:12 AM
Tell me what other system takes us back to the halycon days of yor when every sound take was manually aligned with every sync.
The same one that shoots 4K with 35mm DOF. If your client doesn't want his footage to look better than anything else he can get then guess what? He won't have to link up his sound files.
I complain as much as anyone around here (ok, maybe not everyone)... but c'mon. You can't explain quality vs. slower workflow to a client and let and THEM choose which camera/workflow is best? You don't have to shoot RED. Let it be their choice.
I've got a guy right not who's not sure he can handle all the data if we shoot RED. And I say, "I understand that, you'll have to decide whether this project needs to be the best or if something lesser will be good enough. I just want you to know about all the options available to you."
Don't waste your time trying to sell anyone on RED... say it's the best but the best requires a little more work. See how much they complain when you put it that way. They won't complain. They'll either choose RED or not. Simple.
Deanan
03-16-2008, 01:12 AM
Please give us a little time to catch up on the software side with how fast the camera firmware is moving. We could have easily disabled the audio on the camera until we had more audio support in software but chose not to because the option is still better than no option.
Shawn Booth
03-16-2008, 02:24 AM
Hey no problem I will just tell my client to do that. As a shooter giving footage on a drive to my client who is the producer, this will surely win my rave reviews. Tell me what other system takes us back to the halycon days of yor when every sound take was manually aligned with every sync. pic. Not since flat bed editing on 16mm film have we been promised so much fun.
Well, if you shoot film - and I know this is about RED - SOMEONE, SOMEWHERE has to sync the sound to the picture at SOME POINT in the workflow. There isn't one single film camera out there that can record/capture sound.
I guess we're still living in yor?
Eric MacIver
03-16-2008, 01:36 PM
Please give us a little time to catch up on the software side with how fast the camera firmware is moving. We could have easily disabled the audio on the camera until we had more audio support in software but chose not to because the option is still better than no option.
Of course.... Just making sure someone hasn't come up with something better than what I was about to start doing.
We created a compressor droplet to extract the audio from the quicktime proxies. From there it's just a matter of lining them up in FCP. Perfect solution? No. But it's pretty easy.
Good idea. Can't believe that didn't occur to me... I had thought of doing something similar - but in a different, more difficult way.