Suggesting and/or implying that the Canon lenses that are designed and routinely used on 24 megapixel cameras and used by top professionals in areas (like print magazine, fine art prints, etc) that can actually use that resolution won't be sufficient for 13 megapixel Epic is sort of silly.
Originally Posted by Andrew M.
As far as lenses wider than 14mm - Except for possibly the new 12mm MP and maybe the 8mm UP (anyone checked?), virtually none of the "real" cinema lenses like the UPs, MPs, standards, supers, Cooke's, etc. etc. even COVER the 5K sensor. And the Zeiss Compact Primes are just converted still lenses (which is why they cover FF35), which bolsters the still lens argument.
We have already shot the Ruby 14-24 (converted nikon still lens) underwater on Epic and it works great, but we are looking forward to a Canon mount to use even wider lenses, without paying the 800% premium of having to get a converted still lens on a PL mount.
And let me reiterate, we have been extremely happy with Canon lenses on the Redone and have no real interest in PL on epic. For any customers that need PL we would just rent the mount along with the lenses.
So I would really like to see the option of getting the Canon with our Epic-X rather than the PL, even if it means taking delivery without a mount.
I have twenty Nikon mounts leftover from the AquaLens Nikon to Nikonos conversion units that we bought surplus to get the dome ports - making a Nikon dumb mount for the interim would be extremely easy for any halfway competent machinist - it's just a properly sized block of metal with four mountholes and some relief on the back, and four holes for the nikon mount that is a $20 stock part from Nikon - not as slick as Jacek's or Red's planned one for epic (with the positive lock) but the lens mount itself is just like the one on the RED1 Nikon mount and it works pretty well for millions of Nikon SLR owners. The Epic body mount design is much nicer so install is much easier than on a RED1.
Here's a frame grab from EPIC using a Nikon 18-200 V2 G lens....
the frame grab is taken while shooting at 18mm that seems to produce a crop factor of approximately 1.3
5k; 2.4 : 1 ; 24fps; shutter 180 degree; @ iso 320 & f8
I'm actually waiting for Allstar to announce an EPIC mounting plate for their A-mount for RED One. That should keep me very happy until RED gets their electronic Nikon mount out.
Originally Posted by Elsie N
Except some fisheyes and the non L series 10-22, there really is little offerings from Canon below 14mm.
On another note, I 2nd, 3rd, 4th and ∞ that an iris only Canon mount would significantly more attractive and much more useable to this user. I very rarely use PL glass on my camera. Once I take delivery of the Epic, the option to use Canon glass will put me right to work.
I hear what you're saying; I'll try to scare up some tests on the Nikon 14-24; it really has no peer in the ultra-wide zoom category, Canon guys hate it!
Originally Posted by Andrew M.
The other issues are made more fuss of than I really think is justified; perhaps for narrative work they may be more of an issue, but for the EFP/docu stuff I'll be doing there's no problem - I'll shoot it mostly as a variable prime anyway.
guys what stages reservation are still open ?
is stage 3 still open ?
All my best Nikon glass is old, antique, even- outside the Zeiss ones- so fully dumb is perfectly OK for my purposes. Although, really, I've had success using a Canon with dumb adapter rings on my Nikon glass, too. They cost about $20 at B&H. Use 'em all the time when shooting on "that other camera we sometimes use". And before someone jumps down and tells me they're not perfect- you're right. But they work, in a lot of situations.
Originally Posted by Steve Wake
if you purchased your red before a certain date (cant remember which one, but it was last year) you are elligable for stage 3 as long you didnt void your warranty.
Originally Posted by Gabriele Turchi
Canon supposedly has a 14-24L zoom coming soon. I have Nikon too but the all electronic of Canon made it easier to do smart mounts so they got supported first. Canon on Red1 has been great and full remote control of iris and focus is a godsend.
Originally Posted by Mike 'Fireman' Ross
Nikon's mechanical iris actuation makes it more difficult, but it will also make it possible to do a smooth iris ramp whenever people get around to supporting it (I would recommend not holding one's breath). Canon's electronic iris steps - I think in 1/3 stop steps.
from canonrumors.com "However, a decent source thatís correct about 50% of the time sent me information about upcoming lenses from Canon.
Iím told an EF 14-24 f/2.8L and EF 24-70 f/2.8L II will be announced at the same time. Whether thatís with a new 1Ds or 5D Mark III was unknown. However, Q4, 2011 or Q1, 2012 was the timetable."
According to CanonRumors.com, Canon is working on a 14-24 1.8 lens.
To me it's great news, because it means that at 14 you'll get roughly a 18mm S35 field on view on EPIC.
My plan is (at least initially) to own three lenses. This future 14-24, the 24-70 and the 50mm 1.4 for emergency low light situations.