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Originally Posted by Blue

Not negative at all, just bewildered. Sexiness is the last prioiry on my list of cine-gear requirements. Practical and affordable are first and foremost. Girls are sexy, matteboxes are practical. There is zero ambiguity here surely.

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Well ok , I disagree its negitive - So u only go to films if they are Practical and affordable?
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Well designed is sexy. Practical and affordable - yes is important - but well designed is first. Life is to short to be practical first and formost - surely.

Since we're talking about aesthetics I personally prefer the look of an MB20. It seems to me that this design would have fitted perfectly with the original concepts for the red one, with the curved angles of the silver arms and gun. I imagine that throughout it's design stages this will probably evolve to match the current camera a bit more, after all it's only sensible that products from the same manufacturer should have the same aesthetic. That aside, if Red's mattebox betters or equals anything on the market then I couldn't frankly care less about looks. What's important to me is functionality, cost and availability so I look forward to these details being announced.

Paul

EDIT: Just thought I ought to add, I think the Mattebox looks very good, I'm not saying it doesn't - Only my preference is all :)

WOW! I don't go to the forum for a couple of days and I missed a huge announcement Now that is what I'm talkin' about. Jim you rrrrrrock.

now all that's missing is the 4K monitor.

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Originally Posted by Blue

Ok, now I must pipe up, and I hate feeling forced into it. But...
There seems to be a lot of reference as to how 'sexy', yes...sexy, the Red mattebox is. Seriously! What does it matter how it looks as long as it's sturdy and works well? Is it absolutely essential to whack off over the cosmetic design of what is simply, *surprise*, a practical item. What's happening in the world? It's a mattebox for CS and hopfully a reasonably priced one. God help us.

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We're all very lucky that Architects, Car Designers, and Clothing Designers don't share your sentiments on design. What a drab world we would live in.

Not that I particularly like the design of this mattebox, but I can see it growing on me.

Speaking about the design: the two things I have the most problems with are the hinge that looks like some kind of pump (8 screws??) and the silly red accents. Seriously, get rid of the red accents.

red black and white have always been my favorite power color combo. if you know anything about Oakley, you realize they make military grade products with full functionality and "make sexy time" looks. i think its art, finding the balance of aesthetic and functionality.

If you need one now, here's this....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARRI-5-Stage-6X6...QQcmdZViewItem

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Originally Posted by offhollywood

rotating circular Pola + two stage all good with me!

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me too!

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Originally Posted by chuck colburn

If you need one now, here's this....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ARRI-5-Stage-6X6...QQcmdZViewItem

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Thank God for post efx. I hope I never have to put 5 stages of glass in front of my red. :sick:

Yes, eye candy is nice which was what the render was, but marketing eye-candy thou it captures your attention only goes so far and there's a whole bunch of more practical elements that need answering.
Total cost of a complete MB? what acccessories and how adaptable is it for different rods, lenses, filters? how robust and road tested is it? Stuff that doesn't induce wet dreams but defines professionalism.
Cheers,