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YAHHHH!!!!

oops

I'm going to laugh if RED's matte box ends up being $4000. ;)

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Originally Posted by ladru

Hi Bruce, our mattebox is in the same price range as Arri and Chrosziel.
We never had the intention to be the cheapest.
Our main goal is to give the camera man all the possibilities he needs to take advantage of all creative ideas.
But than again, that is why there are Porches and VW's..

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Not to be mean, but from the pricing that I've seen, your MB is basically the same price as the Arri. Why should I buy your system when I can get a proven and well know MB for the same price?

It's too bad because I really was considering the Vocas MB until I saw the price tag:(

Matthew

Most matteboxes have some form of patent on them hence you cannot have all the wizz bang things in one mattebox.

Saw the Vocas at NAB, very impressed. Saw the price tag, walked away.

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Originally Posted by Häakon

Part of the RED revolution is that they have developed a way to sell Porsches for VW prices. The era of the $300,000 camera and $4,000 mattebox is coming to an end.

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well said....

Vocas!
Listen and learn; it's free :)

Vocas product is awesome. The price is fair compared to other things on the market. Remember the demand for these things is at an all time high, and that drives down prices. Just two years ago the demand of high end cinema gear was half what it is today. Just ask guys selling sets of PL primes.

As awesome as Vocas could be, I'd still take an Arri for the same price.

This thread cracks me up.. I love everyone talking "around" what they really mean cause it might make them look bad.

"Hey! Since you are not selling a high quality mattebox at a cheap price we can afford, you MUST be running your business badly. And since it's not cheap enough for us, you are going out of business cause expensive items deserve too!"

Think a moment... How many of you actually believe these companies are making these things and simply marking them up through the roof for "fun"? That does not serve them, or you. If they make it too expensive, you won't buy and they go out of business. If they make it too cheap, they do not cover costs and go out of business.

Like it or not, matteboxes are expensive with a LOT of parts, and they have to last a long time. Last I checked CAvision made the mattebox you all want. Big, tough, and $1,500.00. Sure it has design flaws, sure they won't send a loner for review, sure they charge a restocking fee, even when it's THEIR mattebox that does not work correctly.. But HEY!!! Its $1,500.00 GOTTA LOVE THAT!

Pay attention my friends, RED's revolution is NOT it's price point, I don't know how many times we need to go through this... It's the camera and the company that is the revolution. The price is nice, but to many people, $20,000 will still be far beyond "cheap".. And I am glad it is.

I respect and encourage quality hardware and excellent customer service. I expect the company to charge what's nessesary. If they go to far in either direction, the marketplace will take care of it, but I am not arrogant enough to tell anyone that their price, and therefore business model, is flawed just because I cannot afford it.

We shall see what the RED mattebox has to offer once it's built.. Until then, let's just see what we see.

Jay