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    Poll: All good points. Aaand luckily...most of what...

    All good points.

    Aaand luckily...most of what you are talking about are tonal issues which are not in the raw footage. : )
    And with proper transformation and normalized signal are not present. ...
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    Poll: Yes and no. If you just take total available...

    Yes and no.

    If you just take total available camera DR without specific context, yes. Midpoint is in the middle of your parameter extremes. :)

    If you add cinematographic context, defined by...
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    Poll: Well because creative look LUTs are not...

    Well because creative look LUTs are not normalized and reference and when you dig 6 stops under you accentuate the imperfections, of course.
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    Poll: Checked. No shadow bias in log and with...

    Checked.
    No shadow bias in log and with different transformation.
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    Poll: There shouldn't be any green bias. Can you send...

    There shouldn't be any green bias.
    Can you send me Monstro r3d. grab where you saw it manifest ?
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    Poll: That would be the whole story and it would work...

    That would be the whole story and it would work like just like that if noise was the only image property.

    Since there are much more of them, which deteriorate with underexposure, it's not that...
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    Poll: Generally speaking, superior results are possible...

    Generally speaking, superior results are possible depending on type of push, transformation from log and compression used for recording. Not as in "seeing deeper into the dark", but as in "how good...
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    Poll: That's the second analog gain. Nope. Highlights...

    That's the second analog gain.
    Nope. Highlights clip sooner.

    Lower analog saves up top and looses shadows.
    Higher analog pushes more out of shadows and looses highlights.

    The other way...
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    Poll: No. Only analog gain changes recording,...

    No.

    Only analog gain changes recording, digital ISO slider is just how you present what is recorded.
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    Poll: ...?

    ...?
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    Because they are not designed for 8K but creamy...

    Because they are not designed for 8K but creamy lovable flattering cinematic image.

    You can't have everything. Cine zooms speedboosted to T2 and 8K. No. :)

    Angie EZ + Gemini are a great combo....
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    Not with those zooms.

    Not with those zooms.
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    Poll: If by "compromise" you mean context-related...

    If by "compromise" you mean context-related judgement calls to establish some practical reference - yes.

    And the compromise here is related to which properties you can compare in which context, to...
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    Poll: Yes, and with base colour science properties,...

    Yes, and with base colour science properties, image transformation properties you also have RAW development algorythm properties which people tend to take as is, assuming they just stand there...
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    Poll: There is no issue over here. :) We are not...

    There is no issue over here. :)
    We are not talking about the same thing. You are interpreting the image as camera performance. Image is the outcome of camera performance and exposure to scene. Which...
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    Poll: "Ideally"...as in the context of the test. ...

    "Ideally"...as in the context of the test.

    Ideally...nope. But that's for another topic.



    You are talking about the image. Not the camera properties.
    Camera properties are fixed and...
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    Poll: Hey Evin, can you specify exposure method for...

    Hey Evin, can you specify exposure method for base exposure (+ ISO ) and + 6 ?
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    Poll: Hans...you are not judging just the camera, but...

    Hans...you are not judging just the camera, but the camera + transformation.

    : )
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    Poll: NO. On both accounts. It wouldn't.

    NO.

    On both accounts.




    It wouldn't.
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    Poll: If S1H was there you'd be even more surprised...

    If S1H was there you'd be even more surprised with $4500.




    It's due to a lot of things, transformation route being one of them. And it's avoidable.
  21. Camera choice always depends on context and...

    Camera choice always depends on context and priorities.

    S1H excells in DR, sensitivity and video features. It's a workhorse tank. It can sit by LF. On sticks.

    GH5/S excells in rollling shutter...
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    It says here encoding 2 fps and decoding 3 fps...

    It says here encoding 2 fps and decoding 3 fps for 4K 4:4:4 on Core I7 6700.


    https://github.com/aous72/OpenJPH
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    Poll: For texture and definition, no scaling. Unless...

    For texture and definition, no scaling.
    Unless context is delivery standard.



    Depends on what you test, for this overall performance it is irrelevant.



    If you want to present two cameras...
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    Poll: Yes that is normal. Something has to be done to...

    Yes that is normal.
    Something has to be done to the negative.

    Tests like these are always camera + development tests.




    Then you would compare cameras + ACES implementation. And...
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    Poll: Important to stress here: Camera tests like...

    Important to stress here:


    Camera tests like these display camera + transformation results.
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