New dovetail needs to be bought?

[Brent@RED]

We hear your concerns and we are discussing it. If I had more information now, I would offer it up. But until we finish our internal discussions, any comments beyond that would be premature.

BC

[wshultz]

Good to know Brent. Maybe an option could be to swap the dovetail for the cheeseplate? Just one idea.

[Alex Wengert]

I'm a a little confused. Isn't the cheese plate mounted to the top of the camera, and the dovetail and baseplate at the bottom? I don't understand what the cheese plate would do at the bottom of the camera as far as mounting it to the head. Are you supposed to remove the baseplate and dovetail, then attach the cheeseplate and then somehow attatch a hand held rig to go handheld? No Mako No Sense.

[grandpa it burns]

At a shoot, I heard someone talking about how they yanked out the soft little rubber piece from around the pin and replaced it with one made of harder rubber. Supposedly it solved the problem completely?

[Mark Andersen]

I could never get the dove tail to lock. the locking mech. just springs back at me it never has worked, I threw it in a box, and bought the chesse plate, fortunately I hate to do shoulder mount stuff. I still wonder whats up with the shoulder dovetail? am I doing something wrong? I Still love the camera though!

[wshultz]

I THINK the cheesplate slides in where the dovetail does now and bolts to the bottom frame solidly. Then I think my particular tripod wedge plate would bolt to the bottom of the cheeseplate. No wobble then.

[Paolo Tinari]

I don't see anything with this part number on E.T. product list.

You can use the (RED/Element) Arri base 15 or 19mm with any head as long as you also have an Arri dovetail (E.T. ADT-1220 for $375). It has threaded holes along the center for mounting a quick release plate for you particular head. This same dovetail will also replace the Euro Plate on the OConnor 2060/2575 but can use the quick release plate from any other head.

[Casey Green]

We hear your concerns and we are discussing it. If I had more information now, I would offer it up. But until we finish our internal discussions, any comments beyond that would be premature.

BC

Thanks for your attention to this important thread.

We feel confident that RED will figure out a fair solution.

[sander kamp]

At a shoot, I heard someone talking about how they yanked out the soft little rubber piece from around the pin and replaced it with one made of harder rubber. Supposedly it solved the problem completely?

We tried that. But then the whole thing got stuck, the pin didn't want to go down again and we had to remove the bottom plate and hammer the pin down. Not something you want to do in the middle of a production.

It is really a shame. I opened it up and it is a beautifully machined piece with all kind of springs and metal parts inside. Yet for tripod work it is no good and for shoulder held it is heavy and uncomfortable.

The problem with the cheese plate is that you can't balance the camera without removing the camera from the tripod, turning it upside down and unscrewing and re-attaching the plate.

And yes, I love my camera and support the RED company. But I don't think that means I should just forgive them for shipping accessories that don't work.

[Damien Molineaux]

Thanks for your attention to this important thread.

We feel confident that RED will figure out a fair solution.

Sorry if I'm repeating myself from one thread to the other, but there are a number of threads going on about the issues with the Red bottom plate - shoulder dovetail combo. They (the threads) have been going on for quite some tiime now, and still no solution from Red.

Red, I love you guys, and gals ! I love my camera, but this is one problem I think you should address ! Yes there are third party solutions, but you can do better.

My suggestion, ditch (as in stop producing them) the Red baseplate and shoulder dovetail. Start selling the Arri (ET) bridge plate instead. Make the production pack a little more expensive, and let people choose wether they want 15mm or 19mm !!! AND lower the price of the Arri 19mm bridge plate alone to match the price of the 15mm. AND make a new shoulder dovetail to go with the Arri bridge plates.

Cheers,
Damien

PS Let's be efficient. I'm going to retire my baseplate, my shoulder dovetail, my cheeseplate and my 19mm steel rods (anyone interested ?). Why make all these products that most people will end up replacing ?!